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I thought ea had learned from the whole spore fiasco but it seems they might not have, while sims 3 and dragon age origin are aparently disk check only its sounding like c&c 4 might want to be connected to the net at all times.

so has ea learned?
While its not the install limit bs, its close to as bad since if they take the servers down the game is over. At least thats my impression of it.
 

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Worgen said:
I thought ea had learned from the whole spore fiasco but it seems they might not have, while sims 3 and dragon age origin are aparently disk check only its sounding like c&c 4 might want to be connected to the net at all times.

so has ea learned?
While its not the install limit bs, its close to as bad since if they take the servers down the game is over. At least thats my impression of it.
Heh? What is all this gibber-gabber? Sorry, I'm not much of a computer guy and my computer can't play good games because it's shit...waffles.
 

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The pirates will crack it. It's inevitable.
Wouldn't taking down the servers destroy most RTS games these days anyway?
 

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IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?

OT: I think they have learned a few lessions, but they need to learn more.
the spore fiasco was its drm, you only had like 3 installs then you had to rebuy the game and you could only have one profile per install so to really play it you needed multiple copies, these were eased with patches but gamers took offence and pirated it in record numbers, a good number of which did as a form of protest
 

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Worgen said:
IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?

OT: I think they have learned a few lessions, but they need to learn more.
the spore fiasco was its drm, you only had like 3 installs then you had to rebuy the game and you could only have one profile per install so to really play it you needed multiple copies, these were eased with patches but gamers took offence and pirated it in record numbers, a good number of which did as a form of protest
I had that on Dead Space. nfw i'm rebuying that game. I'll pirate it.
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
Worgen said:
IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?

OT: I think they have learned a few lessions, but they need to learn more.
the spore fiasco was its drm, you only had like 3 installs then you had to rebuy the game and you could only have one profile per install so to really play it you needed multiple copies, these were eased with patches but gamers took offence and pirated it in record numbers, a good number of which did as a form of protest
I had that on Dead Space. nfw i'm rebuying that game. I'll pirate it.
yeah ea did the limit install thing on several games and so did other companies but after spore most backed off from it
 

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Worgen said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Worgen said:
IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?

OT: I think they have learned a few lessions, but they need to learn more.
the spore fiasco was its drm, you only had like 3 installs then you had to rebuy the game and you could only have one profile per install so to really play it you needed multiple copies, these were eased with patches but gamers took offence and pirated it in record numbers, a good number of which did as a form of protest
I had that on Dead Space. nfw i'm rebuying that game. I'll pirate it.
yeah ea did the limit install thing on several games and so did other companies but after spore most backed off from it
Which is funny, because from all accounts i've heard, it failed mostly.
 

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I never quite understood all these safety measures...

The only people they hurt with it are their own customers. Pirates seem to have absolutely no problem cracking their way through any form of security while the customers get punished through painful installation rituals for not doing anything wrong.

Same with DVDs. If you buy a DVD you get stuck watching a video about how bad piracy is that you can't skip, followed by all the groups that made this DVD possible that you can't skip, often followed by another anti piracy warning you can't skip, followed by the actual menu. On some DVDs you might even get a few trailers for unrelated movies you can't skip, or the movie randomly starts and you skipped a whole part trying to get past the trailers.
If you pirated the movie, you just start the file and you can watch.

There's something very wrong about this.
 

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Disk checking and online activation are nothing compared to the limited installs. They seem to have backed off though. I was pretty angry when I bought Crysis Warhead and learned I would only have 5 installs. But they have since released a program that will give you back installs at will. I don't think they will do that again.
 

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Worgen said:
IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?

OT: I think they have learned a few lessions, but they need to learn more.
the spore fiasco was its drm, you only had like 3 installs then you had to rebuy the game and you could only have one profile per install so to really play it you needed multiple copies, these were eased with patches but gamers took offence and pirated it in record numbers, a good number of which did as a form of protest
And yet they still have the fucking nerve to monopolize spore just like the fucking Sims.
The reason why Spore was butchered, with half of it's shit gutted out, was so EA could make money selling it's organs. Also, they started with a "'stuff pack"... You know, one that doesn't do shit but add animations and other useless crap. No new gameplay mechanics?

That's why I never buy an EA game anymore..
As for future spore expansions, I'm going to pirate them. If they wanted to do a half-assed job, and butcher a game that was "supposed" to be groundbreaking just to make a quick buck, they shouldn't reap any rewards.

Good gods that was a mouthful..
/rant
 

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I dont get why so many people have a cry about a internet connection being required. I dont know anyone who doesnt have a constant connection these days. Its hardly a problem.
 

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Internet connection is required because the game is online
It's obviously an anti-piracy method. Sure, they made up some crap about how you need an internet connection while playing single player to update your stats and xp on your profile, but why couldn't that data be sent when logging in so you could play offline?

EA seems to be hell bent on killing themselves. I would normally pirate any game that has DRM on it, but after wasting money on Spore(the biggest fail I have ever seen) and having to scrub my system clean from the Suckurom on it, I have lost interest in any EA game.

...Ok, I'm mainly bitter about Spore. Seriously, look at a tech demo from like 2007. The game seemed to be one of the deepest simulators I had ever seen. Then look at the final product. Everything had been ripped out, the graphics had been replaced with a cartoony look, the ecosystem mechanisms had been taken out, and to make it worse, they only sold half of the actual game at retail and the rest is being milked as DLC.
 

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phar said:
I dont get why so many people have a cry about a internet connection being required. I dont know anyone who doesnt have a constant connection these days. Its hardly a problem.
its because you can only play the game as long as they keep up servers for it which means that once they get tired of spending money on the servers you have a box left over, in a way its a diffrent kind of limit on installs, in stead of a number limit its a time limit
 

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IdealistCommi said:
What was the Spore fiasco?
You could only have one install per. disc.

I mean, that's like if you want to play the game at a friends house, or install it on a different computer, you have to buy another copy.
 

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I never really understood the whole you have X amount of installs. Wouldnt you by first buying it have effective ownership of it so if you ran out of installs wouldnt you be able to legally "pirate" it? Or do they fuck you with all that fine print I never read?

Edit: Never mind I was thinking it through I guess you are paying for a bunch of letters and numbers which make a cd key so disregard that I suck cock.
 

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Worgen said:
phar said:
I dont get why so many people have a cry about a internet connection being required. I dont know anyone who doesnt have a constant connection these days. Its hardly a problem.
its because you can only play the game as long as they keep up servers for it which means that once they get tired of spending money on the servers you have a box left over, in a way its a diffrent kind of limit on installs, in stead of a number limit its a time limit
Yes but they would have to release a patch to fix the problem otherwise theyd be in hot water. Look at steam, they are all set if they go bankrupt to patch the games to work standalone.
 

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phar said:
Worgen said:
phar said:
I dont get why so many people have a cry about a internet connection being required. I dont know anyone who doesnt have a constant connection these days. Its hardly a problem.
its because you can only play the game as long as they keep up servers for it which means that once they get tired of spending money on the servers you have a box left over, in a way its a diffrent kind of limit on installs, in stead of a number limit its a time limit
Yes but they would have to release a patch to fix the problem otherwise theyd be in hot water. Look at steam, they are all set if they go bankrupt to patch the games to work standalone.
valve seems to be one of thoes companies that at least tries to give a damn but most of the bigger ones really dont, I mean look at bioshock, its hardly even on store shelfs anymore but we still have that stupid drm on it