Poll: Has Microsoft's changes to Xbox One DRM changed your decision on getting the console?

[Lady Lucky]

Hmmmm, I'm still not going to buy one right away. First there is the whole Kinect thing still making me roll my eyes. There is also the problem XBox 360 had for a long while with the first and second generation products.. THE RED RING OF DEATH!!!
Not going to get it until all the kinks are worked out.

 

[StupidNincompoop]

Still has mandatory kinect. Still costs around £100 more for worse hardware because of the kinect. Still looks like an uglier VCR. Still probably a reliable murder weapon. Still absolutely no backwards compatability. Will still probably have a high rate of hardware failures. Still has some mostly bad looking exclusives, with the exception of like two games.

So yeah, nope.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

It's made me soften my position. I'm still concerned over the integrated Kinect and the lack of backwards compatibility, but these are (relatively) minor issues. This U-turn by Microsoft has resolved all the issues I considered to be deal-breakers, so I can't really stand by my previous position of 'never gonna get one' with any validity.

Microsoft has done what we asked - it listened to us. It'd be churlish of gamers in the extreme not to listen to Microsoft in return.

 

[Longstreet]

Well i never did intend on getting it. (PC master race and all)

But now they really fucked themselves over.

There is still mandatory Kinect, that most people hate. It's not the fact that the kinect will get shipped with it, it's the fact that is HAS to be plugged in for EVERY game, or for the console to even WORK.

Second, that whole cloud bullshit, family sharing stuff and the rest of the bad things everyone hated, was another way of justifying that 500 bucks price tag. What do consumers get now for 500 bucks? A slightly more powerful 360 with mandatory spy apparatus.

 

[Yopaz]

Your poll options aren't really fitting me because the change made me willing to get one, but I still need it to have some games I actually want to have in order to actually want to shell out money for it. I don't buy a console for what it does, I buy it for the games it plays. It has always been like that and I would have considered getting one if it could offer me enough good games.

 

[Techno Squidgy]

No. Microsoft had their chance, they blew it. We've all seen the future they promise and it's not a good future for us. It's very good for them, very good for the publishers, but terrible for us. Anyone that thinks Microsoft has learned their lesson is being naive.

Microsoft showed their true colors and it's very anti-consumer.

I have no interest in doing any business with them.

What they showed was just one step away from the nightmare scenario I had feared was coming to gaming for years; and it seemed to be a system deliberately designed to ease the market into throwing away what few practical liberties they had left.

I chopped up your comment a bit to get the bits I thought relevant, I agree with all these points and think Microsoft no longer deserve our trust, our respect, our money or our forgiveness.

 

[TheCrapMaster]

I voted yes but im more likely to just upgrade my PC. But from a consumer standpoint and if i had to get one console it would probably be the xbox one now. As i prefer the xbox controller over the playstation, and im not so much into japanese flared games. But most important, microsoft listened to consumers and changed.

 

[alexbuckenham]

Absolutely no chance I'm getting one. Their scummy attitude contributed to my original decision to just upgrade or replace my gaming PC this generation, at least until PS4 gets cheap later in the generation.

I had an Xbox and a 360 and any brand loyalty I might have had has been completely shattered.

 

[spartandude]

its increased the cost im willing to spend on it from £200 (with drm) to £300 (without drm)

 

[Bvenged]

Probably. I'm giving them more time before I make the final decision. There is still 5 months for them to try to earn back my "trust"

QFT.

I want to see more value for XBLGold, I want to know if the marketplace is gonna be of better value (IE more competitive pricing-wise) than X360's, and reassurances that X180's Kinect isn't stalking me and can be unplugged when not in use (watching TV, playing a game that doesn't use it, etc.

 

[luvd1]

As I said somewhere else. If you try to fek the costumer up the backside and complain that they are being frigid and that they "want it", then don't expect a second date.

 

[mistahzig1]

Microsoft shoul do a parody video of Sony's Howto lend a game to a iend" video: the EXACT same thng, but with 2 guys with black eyes and missing teeth.

That would make for a great mea culpa in my book lol

 

[mistahzig1]

So video game developpers will be forced to makes their own "DRM" with more DLC and multiplayer restrictions... like they were gonna do with their PS4 counterparts. Guess it's good: gamers will be able to reign in the $$$ zealots at the company level by their choices of games they buy. I thought the online hatred was over-the-top fan boys doing what they usually do. I'm glad I was wrong... THANK YOU, INTERNET!

 

[FoolKiller]

No poll option satisfies my stance. I was never getting a console in the first two years. There are always issues to work out since the year 2000 hit.

The lifting of the restrictions is now one thing that may have me getting a Xbox One down the line. But it will need several exclusives for me to warrant getting another console.

Also, the way this works is you have to connect it to download a firmware patch to allow all these things to happen which means that they can change their minds later with another patch and an EULA to bash people with.

 

[Frostbyte666]

No. they've shown their contempt for the consumer and now they're trying to save face. I will also take this announcement more seriously if they announced with the dropping of the drm that they will also release the xbone to more countries than the previous 21. I just have Ackbar in my head at the moment screaming it's a trap and also thinking of the PS3 removing functions after launch. If micrsoft can turn off the online component so easily i'd be worried about them turning it back on in a system update and hiding this fact in the EULA along the lines of "by agreeing to this update you accept that your x-box one must connect to our servers every 24 hours" and having it on page 26 3/4 of the way down the page.

Captcha: change the world This captcha is freaking me out for some reason.

 

[80sboy]

I don't know, I still want Microsoft to continue being the villains.

Yeah!

 

[Flamespeak]

For even trying to implement such restrictive features on the console and claiming it was 'for the good of the consumer' and then bowing down because the same consumer told them they were full of it, I will not support the Xbox One. I have heard some people comment that this service would lower the price of games, heck even MS said it would, but not a single game of their launch titles are available for less than $60, so why should I trust them when they are even throwing early adopters a bone?

Then you have the whole spill about the 'cloud being necessary for a lot of games' and suddenly the cloud isn't necessary for any games. Seems like we were straight up lied to somewhere again. I understand why they wanted to control games on their systems, to get more money to the publishers (never the developers) and put a hurt on Gamestop, but the concept of making a game with high replay value to prevent people from trading it seems lost on them.

 

[erbi79]

I feel like this is a bad time to get all cuddly and cozy with Microsoft. They still tried to shaft us in the beginning.

Turning around and deciding to buy an Xbox One(eighty) now is like deciding to marry someone just because you were able to talk them out of raping you in an alley a half an hour ago.

Lots of talk about Microsoft's integrity... what about ours? Are we so easily swayed that we'll let a company get away with terrible business philosophy just because they cave when they realize they're about to lose a lot of potential revenue?

I'm not suggesting we put Microsoft out of business or anything, or even that you should miss out on the Xbone if you REALLY are looking forward to it... but they need to know that we won't stand for their type of thinking, period, and they're going to need to do more than simply formulate an emergency contingency plan to save their own asses and save face - they're going to need to overhaul their entire business philosophy before we, as a community of gamers and consumers, continue to line their wallets with our hard earned money.

Stand up for what's right, people... I'm not saying you have to buy a PS4, just... don't rush out to buy an Xbone. Not yet. Hold tight and let's make them sweat a bit.

Amen to that

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

>snip<

I disagree. Microsoft had plenty of chances to listen to us prior to E3 and chose to go ahead with their totalitarian vision of gaming anyway and only AFTER a shit storm of epic proportions commenced and headed their direction did they rescind their mind blowingly arrogant plan.

Sony didn't do that, Sony actually paid attention to what gamers wanted and didn't HAVE to ride it out until the last minute to make the right decision. They noticed gamers getting hot under the collar at the mere mention of RUMORS suggesting that PS4 wouldn't allow used games or might be always-online, and they opted to go ahead and make the console that gamers had been suggesting that they make.

I don't think it's rude or churlish as you put it to "not listen to Microsoft in return", I think it's wise both from a consumer stand point as well as based on principle.

Say the Government decided to impose a nation-wide curfew and anyone caught on the streets after 8pm would be shot dead... but after public outcry, went back on that plan and decided to allow people to stay out at late as they want (we'll just be watching you at all times). Do you just suddenly choose to trust that Government that so recently declared your life as fair game if you merely broke an arbitrary rule?

So why would you turn around and run into Microsoft's open arms just because they got tripped up in their plan to restrict and hamper free use of the Xbone? They didn't change their mind FOR YOU... they changed it for them. More specifically, for their wallets.

Don't be fooled, they still don't care about what gamers want.

I mean holy crap they couldn't have had this console generation more won if they had tried - all they had to do was take the Xbox 360, pump up the graphical power, throw in a bigger hard drive, add on all that social BS and redesign the controller and bam - GENERATION WON. Xbox WON is more like it. That's literally all they would have had to do and it would have sold like gang busters.

Instead... instead, they opted to view loyal customers as sheep who needed to be tagged and herded and monitored at all times lest we even THINK about making an attempt to use our Xbones for something that doesn't require paying Microsoft a fee.

You don't stop piracy by punishing the only people whom you don't have to worry about pirating. That should be common sense by now.

You have a fair point about Microsoft disregarding gamer's concerns in the run up to E3, I'm not going to even try and dispute that one.

I have no intentions of "running into Microsoft's arms" as you put it, but this latest recall by them has at least turned my stance from "No way in Hell" to "Let's wait and see". And no, they're not listening to us, they're listening to their developers and their investors - that's also true enough. But I very much doubt that Sony are listening to gamers either, they're simply steering clear of the shit-storms that Microsoft are raising. Sony isn't the most gamer friendly company out there - remember a few years ago when hackers hit the Sony servers making off with the account and credit card details of over 100 million gamers? Three months it took them to tell users that their bank details had been hacked. Sony are in no way the good guys, they just look like it when stood next to Microsoft.

By no means does this U-turn undo all of the shit that MS has tried to pull, but demanding change and then ignoring it when it happens is only going to ensure no more change.

 

[Benpasko]

I'm not getting one. They may have changed their tune, but that's all they did. They're not sorry, they didn't suddenly start caring about gamers. They were worried about their wallet, and they know that people will buy it if they do this change. That's all this is.