Poll: Homosexuality

[JSF01]

My opinion is I really don't give a **** (<-you can fill in a four letter word of your choice), of course its not quite that simple. When weighing the pros and cons of gay right I could really only come up with one item on that topic on which to form my opinion on. The item fell under the con category and it was gay displays of affection bothered me a bit. Now part of my beliefs is that type of reasoning is a very ***** (<-five letter word of your choice this time meaning "bad") argument to use against something, nullifying my only argument one way or another. That left me with no reason to care. Now another one of my beliefs is people should have as much freedom as possible. The way I see it is me not caring is not a good enough reason to allow the restrictions of other peoples freedom, so by default I support gay rights even though I don't care. While I won't be going to gay rights rallies or writing letters to the government on the subject, I will always be on the pro gay rights side in any debate as well as vote in favor on gay right's subjects.
While I figure most people probably could care less about some random person?s opinion on the internet, I do hope that those of you, who don?t care either way on this, subject and do take into account my reasoning and preferably will agree with me. As for everyone else I believe it applies equally as well too many other subjects.

 

[Thundero13]

Ok let me put it another way, Are there any reasons why gay people should not have the same rights as straight people? eg Marriage, Adoption, The ability to give blood.

Marriage: Give civil unions equal legal status, make them for the secular regardless of sexuality, keep marriage for the religious. Same benefits, increase secularism, avoid pissing off religious people.

Adoption: I seriously do not know enough about the subject to really comment, though the argument "well some straight families aren't good at raising their kids" makes me want to kick people in the head.

Blood donation: One-year blood donation ban for MSMs, which I think is the current status in NZ and a few other countries. Risk of MSM blood being HIV infected is too high to be bothered spending the money to test it. Risk/cost/benefit analysis. Life ban stupid.

Fair Enough mostly but I don't really see how MSM's have a higher rate of being infected than MSF's blood, here in Ireland it's permanent and I guess if it was just a 1 year ban I wouldn't really care that much.

 

[Snotnarok]

I believe anyone who pokes their noses in peoples private lives/bedrooms is an asshole by any means. They're not trying to force themselves on you, they're not something you should worry about. My head is still stumped why people insist on forcing their beliefs on others especially when it doesn't effect them.

Someone here on the escapist flat out mocked me for being asexual (not naming anyone here, you know who you are), you know what I have to say to that?

Find something better to care about asshole, my sexuality doesn't effect your life, so keep your ignorant hate filled mouth shut.

 

[holy_secret]

Homosexuality is considered a natural deviation of human sexual tendencies.

Debatable point, and that depends on when and where you live(d).
Ancient Greece: yeah, everyone knows almost everyone then/there was bi at the very least, and thought little of gay relationships.
Feudal Japan: homosexual companionship was frowned upon for the samurai classes, but largely tolerated.

OT: I'm indifferent. I know it's a biological aberration, but y'know what, I'm OK with it. I have gay friends... I have even more lesbian friends... *shrug*

Where do you find them? In have zero gay friends. Everyone's straight, except for two girls that are bisexual.

 

[teh_gunslinger]

This may come across as being waay to nosy, I'd like to ask a question, if I may?

When you say that men repulse you, is that in a strictly sexual sense or do we just repulse you in general? If the first, well, that's understandable. If the second, then, how do you make that work?

I only ask because, as a straight dude myself, I can't say that guys repulse me. I'd not have sex with one, but I sure don't find us repulsive. So I just wonder in what sense you are repulsed.

And if this is none of my business, you have my sincere apologies for being so damn nosy.

I mean sexually. I'm not one of those bra-burning man-hating lesbians. I have male friends and everything, I just die a little inside at the thought of their junk going near/on/in me. Ick.

Thank you for answering. It's much appreciated.

And now I'm gonna go protest against prawns. Those little buggers are ruining the moral fabric of society!

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Fine. You can be gay. Just no where near me.
That is my take.

 

[GamerKT]

I'm okay with it. I found out that my 22 year old cousin is gay a year ago. Nothing's really changed, except that he corrects all my "That's what she saids" with "That's what HE said," which is hilarious. So, no prob. Homophobes annoy me. Learn equality, jackass.

 

[Newfie]

You ought not to be intolerant about what people do behind closed doors, or even in public. It doesn't hurt you, and they are happy.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

How can you be against homosexuals? Could someone with this opinion please explain it to me?

 

[masticina]

Is it that hard to leave others in peace. But no some religious groups seem to think that they know "The right way" and we all better conform to their idea because .. because what. Religion ought to be a personal thing not a guide on how to vote!

 

[Johanthemonster666]

Deleted, redundant rant.

 

[N3vans]

Not gay myself but completely support the individual's right to be however they want. You can't argue in favour of homophobia the same way you can't argue in favour of sexism or racism. Especially when said arguments consist of things like:

"No-one should be gay because my magic book says so, even though it was written at the same time we all thought the world was flat."

Or (and my personal favourite),

"Well if everyone was gay, then the species would die out."

In answer to the latter, get a fucking grip, the percentage of the world population thats gay is tiny. There isn't a chance in hell we're all going to die out through no-one getting pregnant anytime soon, besides there is that little impending crisis of overpopulation which is starting to present itself globally.

Anyway, I digress. Stating things on a forum won't change people's opinion. If someone is a bigoted dickhead, they're always going to be a bigoted dickhead because of their petty prejudices.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

So...in other words, it's a resounding 94% 'Pro' and 6% 'Against.' Pretty much all the 'indifferent' responses involve treating gay people no different than they'd treat heterosexuals and not having any desire to impede them acting how they're wired.

Meh, works for me. I'm in the 'pro' camp anyway, so yay majority.

 

[Char-Nobyl]

"Well if everyone was gay, then the species would die out."

In answer to the latter, get a fucking grip, the percentage of the world population thats gay is tiny. There isn't a chance in hell we're all going to die out through no-one getting pregnant anytime soon, besides there is that little impending crisis of overpopulation which is starting to present itself globally.

I lol'd. It's especially true when you consider any number of other things that prevent people from reproducing, many of which are purely genetic (ie, sterility, infertility) and others being voluntary (ie, vasectomies). And yet the latter is a perfectly legal elective procedure, and we don't deny the former group basic protections because they aren't propagating the human race.

 

[Ian Caronia]

Well, I'm Christian, so that's mostly why I believe what I believe.
My opinion: I'm indifferent. I won't look at gay porn or walk in any gay parades (unless with a friend maybe), and I wouldn't want my kids to be gay, but aside from that I don't really care.
_Gay marriage? Whatever man. I think a real case of "making a mockery/taking the meaning out of marriage" is that Korean guy who married his gameboy (or pillow or something stupid like that). THAT'S just wrong...and hilarious.
_Two dudes kissing? Don't care unless you're five feet from me swallowing tongues and groping like maniacs. But even then a straight couple doing the same weird me out too. Get a room, jackasses.

Put it this way, I don't care what gay people do unless it directly affects me, and even then it would have to be something negative for me to be offended or angry. I just don't care, but I would care if they were being attacked in some way and would defend them to the best of my abilities.
That's the difference between tolerance and kind of giving a shit. A tolerant person decides not to spit in their eye. A person like me decides telling off the prejudice ass who's fucking with them isn't a bad idea.
Hope I made Christians seem better. Like other groups, we get a bad rap because of a lot of assholes.

 

[Dark Knifer]

I don't see any reason to ban it. It doesn't hurt anyone and enjoyable for them so just let them have their relationships. Everyone likes relationships so why should we condone someone's relationship because 'it's not traditional'.

 

[Johanthemonster666]

Deleted due to the post being redundant with others I've made.

The only group of people I feel sorry for more besides the outright bigoted crowd, are the "indifferent, I don't care as long as they're far away from me, or as long as my own kid doesn't turn out gay" crowd.

Seriously? You claim to have no prejudice yet you pretty much turn into Puritan Christian when you see a same-sex couple kissing? Wow, you better not leave your house or log into any electronic device.... straight people get their freak on every where and shove it in your face through advertising, TV, movies, games, bars, clubs, books and stories all the way back to cave paintings ect 24/7. Get a grip people

 

[Infernai]

I honestly don't give two shits about someones sexual prefference: I'm straight, but hey if someone around me is a homosexual or bisexual, i really don't judge them...i judge people more on a personal level, you know, like Church from Red vs Blue.

 

[Talvrae]

I support it, but thats kind of a given since I'm bisexual with my pendulum swinging more towards the homosexual side of things.

i'm the same so

 

[awmperry]

To be honest, I'm more surprised that it's a big enough deal to keep cropping up so often. Personally, I'm a definite zero on the Kinsey scale - completely straight - but unless it starts affecting me (like the schoolmate who insisted on trying to grope me despite reprimands back in high school) I don't see that it's any of my business what somebody's preference is.

In my view, it's like music. I like jazz and funk and stuff; other people like Britney Spears. That doesn't make them bad people, just ones whose music collection I won't ask to borrow. (The Justin Bieber fans, of course, are another matter, but they fall outwith the remit of this metaphor.)

I don't like reading slash fiction, for instance; it's not to my taste, and it's not something I enjoy seeing in any detail. I've occasionally been told I'm a homophobe because I don't think Harry/Draco fanfic is plausible - for me, though, it's a character issue. The real test is how one treats real people, and as far as I'm concerned people are just people. Some have dangly bits, others don't, and I really couldn't care less where they like them stuck.

Incidentally? My brother-in-law's gay, and a jolly decent sort in his own raucous way. And my wife's bi; her old girlfriend, a marvellously geeky sort (like most of my wife's friends, thankfully) came to our wedding.

So yeah. The only thing that annoys me about homosexuality is when people think it's a big deal - whether in the sense of objecting loudly about it (Exactly how does other people being gay affect you, Pastor Phelps?) or in the sense of defining themselves by it, over and above any other attributes, like in Pride parades. I'm straight, but of the hundreds of factors that define me, my appreciation for the be-bosomed sex is hardly the first one that springs to mind. So why don't we just think of gay people as people like anybody else... who just happen to be gay?

That's my treatise on the matter, and it's too late at night for a proper summation, so there's yer lot. ;-)