Poll: Human Augmentations. Your Stance?

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Anti-American Eagle

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Honestly its the only way to continue evolution now that natural selection is out of the equation.
 

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You can't treat Human augmentation as if it was connected to Corporatism and greed. We can't objectively discuss these things unless we get rid of the mindset that is connected to the current wrong society and any future wrong societies.

Easier to understand: X is deemed bad because in Ysociety it has bad consequences.
In Zsociety, which does not share the same negative factors that turn X bad, X does not have bad consequences.
The fault does not lie in X, but in Ysociety.
 

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well this brings me to nano bots. im okay with human augmentation as long as we keep what makes us human, i.e. emotions, all five senses our minds etc. If science says we can reverse the effects of aging to make you look and feel younger as you age by all means its okay with me.
 

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If not for the drug addiction, potential homelessness, poverty and death; I would sign up for a robot arm straight away!

But only if it was a cool one like in iRobot that you could paint human colour.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
But think about it for even a second.....and you realize that it's absolutely what corporations would do. They probably wouldn't even tell you that the simple supplement pills you're buying from them are addictive. They probably would just leave that in small print in the EULA. You know the thing NO-ONE EVER READS!
It's 100% illegal to sell ANY product that is possibly addictive without making this fact CLEAR and OBVIOUS.

A company might try to pull this off but they would end up being sued into the ground.
 

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BleedingPride said:
well this brings me to nano bots. im okay with human augmentation as long as we keep what makes us human, i.e. emotions, all five senses our minds etc. If science says we can reverse the effects of aging to make you look and feel younger as you age by all means its okay with me.
A short extract from Aaron Diaz's A Thinking Ape?s Critique of Trans-Simianism [http://dresdencodak.com/2009/05/15/a-thinking-apes-critique-of-trans-simianism-repost/]:
Thog said:
Klomp predicts that through a technology called ?hygiene? we could extend the simian lifespan well into the late 20s or possibly 30s. What exactly will the post-simian do with all that time? Do we really want to live in a society populated by geriatric 27- year- olds? In living so long and spending so much time ?thinking,? do we not also run the risk of becoming a cold, passionless race incapable of experiencing our two emotions (fear and not fear)? How much of our simianity are we willing to sacrifice for this notion of progress?
I'd advise you read the whole thing, it's very well put together and does a very effective critique of "We must keep what keeps us human!". I don't know about you, but, as a post-simian, I quite enjoy having more emotions than fear and not fear ;)
 

Krythe

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The game actually does a good job of creating a dichotomy here.
On one hand, I want superpowers like every other human being.
On the other, the idea of having a corporation able to shut off your eyes is just fucking freaky. And the drug addiction doesn't help.
 

WrathOfAchilles

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This is really a question? Hell yes to human augmentation. Most of you are too young to know Johnny Mnemonic. As for the commercial about being controlled by them, what's wrong, you guys aren't computer scientists with engineering backgrounds too? Hack the augmented parts.
 

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To what end? I mean, unless it will allow me to do crazy stuff, like keep my tea from spilling, there is no purpose in it. Most people don't need augmentation, the ones that do are military, surgeons, police, and firefighters. I wouldn't mind if they did augment those people, though the price is probably a little too high to be worth it.
 

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Leiji Matsumoto said everything there was to say about this 40 years ago. As soon as some people will begin augmenting ("mechanizing") themselves, a new elite will be born which sees the rest as inferiors. At least in the beginning, later they won't even recognize them as proper humans (unevolved).
 

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First of all, I don't think the trailer is necessarily being presented as propaganda against the augmentations themselves, but more against the corporation that's handing out the augmentations. After all said corporation seems to have a monopoly and also seems that their augmentations require users to use a highly addictive drug. I imagine the hypothetical protest group would be less against the augmentations if it wasn't for the whole drug thing and if there were more companies handing them out. ...well that and if people weren't replacing perfectly healthy limbs with augmentations.

Anyway, as for my opinion of augmentations, well both my parents have worn out joints, my Dad has had both his knees replaced and my Mom has had one replaced and is looking at getting the other. Both of them would love to have back the mobility and range they once had when they were younger. So it occurs to me if some sort of mechanical joints could replace the aging decrepit joints of people in my parents position then I'd be all for that.
Although replacing perfectly healthy limbs with augmentations seems stupid to me.
 

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Sure, its always a good idea to get more plasmids, I mean augmentations.

The tone of this trailer really, really reminds me of a Bioshock, Splicer kind of dynamic. Unregulated and on the open market, people need them to remain competitive, to terrible consequences. It should be interesting to compare them.
 

BleedingPride

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daydreamerdeluxe said:
BleedingPride said:
well this brings me to nano bots. im okay with human augmentation as long as we keep what makes us human, i.e. emotions, all five senses our minds etc. If science says we can reverse the effects of aging to make you look and feel younger as you age by all means its okay with me.
A short extract from Aaron Diaz's A Thinking Ape?s Critique of Trans-Simianism [http://dresdencodak.com/2009/05/15/a-thinking-apes-critique-of-trans-simianism-repost/]:
Thog said:
Klomp predicts that through a technology called ?hygiene? we could extend the simian lifespan well into the late 20s or possibly 30s. What exactly will the post-simian do with all that time? Do we really want to live in a society populated by geriatric 27- year- olds? In living so long and spending so much time ?thinking,? do we not also run the risk of becoming a cold, passionless race incapable of experiencing our two emotions (fear and not fear)? How much of our simianity are we willing to sacrifice for this notion of progress?
I'd advise you read the whole thing, it's very well put together and does a very effective critique of "We must keep what keeps us human!". I don't know about you, but, as a post-simian, I quite enjoy having more emotions than fear and not fear ;)
thats a very good point, but i still hold my opinion. although i did not mean expand the human life, i said reverse the physical effects of aging, so that we would still die at say 90 or something and still LOOK younger.
 

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Can it give me a better knee than this POS that's screwing up my running routine right now?

Yes? Gimme gimme gimme
 

McNinja

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I would sign up in an INSTANT.

Well, the INSTANT after reading the EULA and the Term and conditions, then passing them to a lawyer fixing what I thought was wrong, then reading it again.
 

Sacman

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I think augmentation is a good, thing it brings human beings into a higher state of existence closer to being able to transcend it's physical form and onto a higher state of consciousness...<.<
 

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I don't think stuff like super strength, invisibility, hidden weapons or whatever should be allowed except for military and law enforcement use but more smaller stuff should be allowed for the public. Actual use as limb replacements, sure but no uber strength, just normal robot arms.

However something small like an eye implant (Like Jeremiah Gottswald from Code Geass) that can be used to connect to the internet or something useful like that but not something that could be used as a weapon.