i'm already taking regular doses of immuno-suppressants due to my illness, so why not give me some night vision and super strength to go with that. i could live with being a demi-superhero.
Poll: Human Augmentations. Your Stance?
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anyone that wears a watch, glasses, clothes, eats engineered foods, uses microscopic particles to clean themselves is altering the way their body functions, hopefully for a net gain in more minor ways than the deus fiction, of-corse but we improve ourselves all the time, it's just a matter of time until hardcore surgery is commonplace to replace anything less than perfect, or simply to upgrade ourselves for high stress environmentsFuselage said:So Deus Ex: Human Revolution is coming and the coming of it has sparked a debate between me and my friends, a debate about the crux of the games story, Augmentations.
Now we are currently judging [a href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/trailers/3755-Deus-Ex-Human-Revolution-Purity-First"] off this trailer[/a].
Now this is obviously anti-aug propaganda but it seems to tell us most about the augmentations until the game arrives, in this debate though I remain neutral but I want to hear your stance.
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i don't see a problem, unless those augmentations steal our humanity altogether
( make us unable to reproduce, think for ourselves ect )
i think the borg from startrek are what we will look like in a few thousand year's time, except in a far more slick way
I will not be satisfied until I have replaced all of my body parts with awesome cybernetic ones.
At the very least, I want to be able to shoot stuff out of my eyes.
At the very least, I want to be able to shoot stuff out of my eyes.
Their a movie out there by robin williams where hes a robot.
The second people can live outside the normal 100 years give or take they will become sub human becuase there will always be more people who can't or won't have mech limbs. So it would be small like they can't vote or whatever.
Then people will become jelous and not offer jobs or let you in the restraunt tell there 3 class citizen with no rights. What that you where mugged. You got a robo arm defend yourself. What that you hurt the none arg human mugger with your robo arm. Throw him in prison and throw the book at him for assult with a deadly weapon.
So no I would not becuase life is hard enough with out being treat like less then human. Unless I can download my brain and live forever then screw it all you meats will die and I won't so I can deal with it.
The second people can live outside the normal 100 years give or take they will become sub human becuase there will always be more people who can't or won't have mech limbs. So it would be small like they can't vote or whatever.
Then people will become jelous and not offer jobs or let you in the restraunt tell there 3 class citizen with no rights. What that you where mugged. You got a robo arm defend yourself. What that you hurt the none arg human mugger with your robo arm. Throw him in prison and throw the book at him for assult with a deadly weapon.
So no I would not becuase life is hard enough with out being treat like less then human. Unless I can download my brain and live forever then screw it all you meats will die and I won't so I can deal with it.
I'm of the mind-set of "let's get me beyond the limits of this puny meat-sack and onto the level of transhumans". So yeah, I'm all for augmentation. Plus it isn't like it isn't already around and common. Synthetic hearts anyone?
Sure the business running it could be a problem, but that's why you don't let monopolies happen. Because then it's so much easier for them to get away with corrupt practices.
Sure the business running it could be a problem, but that's why you don't let monopolies happen. Because then it's so much easier for them to get away with corrupt practices.
Tricky question. As much as I am for human evolution, with these kinds of nasty side-effects I rather not go with it.
As others have said about nano-agu (I havn't played any Deus Ex game, so I'm just guessing) about it improving your biological body, or wearing it like a skin over your own skin. Now that seems rather nice, as long as the little buggers do their job!
This thread remind me of a special Ghost in the Shell line, "Fuck! He hacked my eyes!".
As others have said about nano-agu (I havn't played any Deus Ex game, so I'm just guessing) about it improving your biological body, or wearing it like a skin over your own skin. Now that seems rather nice, as long as the little buggers do their job!
This thread remind me of a special Ghost in the Shell line, "Fuck! He hacked my eyes!".
I have no philosophical problems with human augmentation. I have practical concerns (i.e Rich people gaining abilities to crush those who can't afford augs), but if someone said to me "Hey, you want a FUTURE EYE!" I'm not turning it down, provided it has been shown to be moderately safe.
I'm not religious, so I don't have any religious objections to modifying the human body, so long as it is purely voluntary.
However, will it remain purely voluntary? Augs will make some people more suited for jobs than non-augmented people. Imagine if you have to choose between two candidates for a police job: One is a stock-standard human being, and the other has FUTURE ARMS which will allow him or her to catapult hippies and protesters 50 feet into the air with a single punch, FUTURE STYLE! Honestly, who are you going to hire? If augs aren't given to anyone who wants/needs them, you're going to create a world in which those who can be augmented will have better job prospects and more abilities than those who aren't or can't be augmented. This might force those who can't really afford it, or who don't really want it, to take out massive loans or undergo the procedure less-than-willingly.
But that's a practical concern, and you might be able to find solutions to such concerns. So long as augmentations were properly controlled and available to most people, then I see no inherent problems with them. Frankly, I'm not too attached to my own body.
I'm not religious, so I don't have any religious objections to modifying the human body, so long as it is purely voluntary.
However, will it remain purely voluntary? Augs will make some people more suited for jobs than non-augmented people. Imagine if you have to choose between two candidates for a police job: One is a stock-standard human being, and the other has FUTURE ARMS which will allow him or her to catapult hippies and protesters 50 feet into the air with a single punch, FUTURE STYLE! Honestly, who are you going to hire? If augs aren't given to anyone who wants/needs them, you're going to create a world in which those who can be augmented will have better job prospects and more abilities than those who aren't or can't be augmented. This might force those who can't really afford it, or who don't really want it, to take out massive loans or undergo the procedure less-than-willingly.
But that's a practical concern, and you might be able to find solutions to such concerns. So long as augmentations were properly controlled and available to most people, then I see no inherent problems with them. Frankly, I'm not too attached to my own body.
I think I would wait until augmentations were widespread enough that I could have a few choices of which company to buy from. It would minimize the chance of becoming an evil corporate cyborg. Also, augmentations would ruin sports. A shame, but worth it in the long run.
I'm all for enhancements, but when they start messing with my head then no way no how.
It's their own choice, but at what point do they choose to give up their free will and essentially their life? For those kinds of human augmentations that require an addictive drug and can control the brain I would suggest that people be required to see a psychiatrist for a month or two before making the decision.
It's their own choice, but at what point do they choose to give up their free will and essentially their life? For those kinds of human augmentations that require an addictive drug and can control the brain I would suggest that people be required to see a psychiatrist for a month or two before making the decision.
I think Augmentations have the ability to be great for people who have lost limbs in things like war, or shark attack, but i dont think they should be readily available
i remember someone talking about how we are trying to make ourselves robotic, while making robots more human. Before too long they will be us and we will be them
i remember someone talking about how we are trying to make ourselves robotic, while making robots more human. Before too long they will be us and we will be them
It sounds like a good idea until you really think about it. With our current technology, by the time you buy a new computer and take it home it is ALREADY OBSOLETE now imagine that computer is a body part. Next think of the cost, such a machine will cost well beyond what the vast majority will be able to afford. So basically cybernetics, transhumansism, and human augmentation is just another way of saying that in the future it will be even more awesome to be rich.
I'm all for human augmentation. there are less problems than that video says, if you need a drug for a machanical part then that means the company specifically put something in the machine parts and the company could be sued for billions of dollars. The only way a drug could be needed without the company purposely putting a chemical in the machine part is if you need antibiotics to stop an infection from the surgery and you would only take them for a week or two. Also People have started augmentations in the real world already like the blind people that can see through a camera that is wired to their brains, it's really cool.
Actually you may get those shrimp eyes before you die because scientists are already splicing creatures DNA together like the goat spider things. You can't even tell they're part spider by looking at them but they are able to produce spider silk.newwiseman said:
Hell yes! to augmentation, but only if there were no "suppressants" required.
Nanotech augmentation seems the way to go.
As for the interfering with god, hell some of those retards are against the use of condoms today, but they probably would count that as augmentation too!
Nanotech augmentation seems the way to go.
As for the interfering with god, hell some of those retards are against the use of condoms today, but they probably would count that as augmentation too!
Personally, I can't wait for the day I can jam a USB stick into a socket in my neck, or get online with the wifi installed in my skull. All I want is to live long enough to become part of the Singularity.
Augmentation all the way, baby.
Augmentation all the way, baby.