Poll: Hungary bans homeless people.
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My initial response upon seeing the title of this thread was "Wait, what?"
Upon reading further I'm beginning to seriously question any faith in Humanity I had left.
Upon reading further I'm beginning to seriously question any faith in Humanity I had left.
But that would mean actually solving the problem and that's hard! And the homeless are icky and gross and mean! I don't wanna pay more taxes for them!RamirezDoEverything said:
It wouldn't be the first time.RamirezDoEverything said:
I stumbled across Australian laws from 60-70 years ago... Oddly enough I think they may never actually have been repealed.
According to those laws, it's a crime to have no money!
But, this is just typical of attitudes that make no sense.
They imply that being homeless and poor is something people do out of choice, and that they could easily choose not to be like that.
It's one of the things that always bothered me about the idea that everyone should just be able to look after themselves without any help from the rest of society.
The idea that you're a helpless victim of circumstance is definitely unhealthy.
But the idea that everyone's circumstances are their own fault inevitably leads to anyone that has a run of bad luck being ignored, and treated like worthless scum who are entirely to blame for their own misfortune.
The meritocracy is just another myth used to justify the successful not needing to give any consideration to the 'failures' in life.
Because, hey, all the good stuff in my life is entirely my own doing right? It's because I worked hard, and am very good at what I do. It has nothing to do with random chance or circumstance beyond my control.
And your life sucks? Well, try harder. It's all your own fault, and I refuse to give any consideration to it being anything other than things you have completely within your own control.
Or something like that.
Sorry... This kind of thing always makes me incredibly depressed.
I find it hard to believe that a law such as this was passed through whatever parliament they have in Hungary. Did no-one seriously step forward and say, this is a stupid idea and won't work? Wow.
Hang on. If a person gets fined and doesn't pay their fine, the cops are supposed to show up at their home. How does this work with homeless people? The cop won't know where they live. They can just dodge all the fines.
Also, as someone who's been homeless due to housing shortage, this makes me a very sad panda. It's not always a persons own fault he/she is homeless. Being homeless in itself sucks more than I can put into words. Fining people for it is like finding somebody on the street who's been stabbed and deciding to kick his teeth out. Fuckers.
Also, as someone who's been homeless due to housing shortage, this makes me a very sad panda. It's not always a persons own fault he/she is homeless. Being homeless in itself sucks more than I can put into words. Fining people for it is like finding somebody on the street who's been stabbed and deciding to kick his teeth out. Fuckers.
early 1800's in the U.S. we did away w/debtor's prisons, now Hungary is bringin' 'em back.
scary stuff
scary stuff
Lets fine people, who can't afford to live in a house, so they can't make the money they need to buy one!
Who the FUCK came up with that idea? Obviously they need their head examined.
Who the FUCK came up with that idea? Obviously they need their head examined.
How ironic, Hungary bans homeless people who are Hungry.
/flameshield
But yes, this is absolutely ridiculous.
/flameshield
But yes, this is absolutely ridiculous.
No, you're not a realist, you're just callous, at least if you really believe what you're saying. Rounding up and forcing homeless people into military service, where at worst you're literally murdering them, and at best you're effectively enslaving them for the criminal act of being poor, is just despicable on many levels. Perhaps you haven't really thought it through or something, because I hope that's not what you really think.Therumancer said:
Giving free food, cheap housing, and medical care to the homeless has helped the problem, and that problem is that homeless people did not have food, housing or medical care. It's not a permanent solution by any means, but it's a damn sight better than doing nothing, or harming them more (as this law is trying to do).
Oh, and I hope the homeless do spend any money they're given on drugs, booze, and whatever the hell they like. I imagine I'd turn to those things if I were homeless too, if that's what it takes for them to suffer a little less or gain a little temporary happiness in their lives then good for them. It disgusts me how often people use this as an excuse to ease their conscience when they don't give money to the poor.
OT: Stupid on many, many levels. You
At what point did this seem like a good idea? I can imagine the meeting now.
1: "So what are we going to do about this homelessness problem?"
2: "Build shelters and places where they can sleep and find work?"
1: "No no, that would never work. Anyone else have any ideas?"
3: "How about we fine them for sleeping on the streets?"
2: "But how can they pa..."
1: "That is pure genius! Make it so Watson!"
1: "So what are we going to do about this homelessness problem?"
2: "Build shelters and places where they can sleep and find work?"
1: "No no, that would never work. Anyone else have any ideas?"
3: "How about we fine them for sleeping on the streets?"
2: "But how can they pa..."
1: "That is pure genius! Make it so Watson!"