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Fniff

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Would werewolves,vampires etc etc be evolutionarily possible? And,if it was,would it survive?

This can be any mythical creature,vampires and werewolves are just off the top of my head.
 

New Troll

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Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
 

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New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
And here's my reason. I don't really need to say anything further than that.
 

Fniff

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New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
I always thought vampires would be able to survive in the modern day world. They are wearing very conveninceing (sp?) sheep's clothing and some people are stupid enough to go out with anyone,thus making a vampire's job easier.
 

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ZeroMachine said:
New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
And here's my reason. I don't really need to say anything further than that.
Sweet "this" avoidance. Wish I could think up something like that too, considering this is also my reason, but uh... I can't. So...

Honestly, though, it also seems like something like a vampire could never exist because it's immortal. How do you adapt that? Werewolves are slightly more practical, simply because they have no weird stuff like that, but still don't seem like a possible evolution branch.
 

Fniff

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Generator said:
ZeroMachine said:
New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
And here's my reason. I don't really need to say anything further than that.
Sweet "this" avoidance. Wish I could think up something like that too, considering this is also my reason, but uh... I can't. So...

Honestly, though, it also seems like something like a vampire could never exist because it's immortal. How do you adapt that? Werewolves are slightly more practical, simply because they have no weird stuff like that, but still don't seem like a possible evolution branch.
Maybe the vampire would not be immortal,maybe it would just live for a very long time.
 

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Fniff said:
New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
I always thought vampires would be able to survive in the modern day world. They are wearing very conveninceing (sp?) sheep's clothing and some people are stupid enough to go out with anyone,thus making a vampire's job easier.
The question wasn't wether they could survive or not, but if they'd be considered evolutionary. When something evolves, that means it's adapting to it's environment. Vampires and werewolves would not be adapting to anything, and in essence would be unadapting to thier environments.

Geez, I can eat this abandunce of vegetation along with all these meats, or I can limit my metabolism to only feeding off blood which is a lot harder to come by. Hmmmm... choices.. coices. While I'm at it, lets just cut off my legs and roll everywhere I desire to go. I can survive without walking damnit!

Back on topic. Might be possible through mutagens and the like, but not through evolution.
 

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No. A freak genetic modification possibly, But not things like Werewolves & things.
 

A Weary Exile

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Not Vampires.

As for Werewolves, not ones that transform from humans on a full moon, I could see a bi-pedal wolf evolving sometime in the next few million years or so.
 

Fniff

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New Troll said:
Fniff said:
New Troll said:
Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
I always thought vampires would be able to survive in the modern day world. They are wearing very conveninceing (sp?) sheep's clothing and some people are stupid enough to go out with anyone,thus making a vampire's job easier.
The question wasn't wether they could survive or not, but if they'd be considered evolutionary. When something evolves, that means it's adapting to it's environment. Vampires and werewolves would not be adapting to anything, and in essence would be unadapting to thier environments.

Geez, I can eat this abandunce of vegetation along with all these meats, or I can limit my metabolism to only feeding off blood which is a lot harder to come by. Hmmmm... choices.. coices. While I'm at it, lets just cut off my legs and roll everywhere I desire to go. I can survive without walking damnit!
Ah... Sorry,an act of stupidity on my part.
 

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actually of the two I'd think werewolves would be more likely to evolve naturally from present day wolves..assuming they don't become extinct first
 

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The only problem with evolution being the reaosning behind things like vampires is that it would be a backwards step for humanity. It would involve something taking several steps backwards in their evolutionary state (grotesque appearence, burned from water, can't have contact with sunlight, etc) to gain a few, not so nessesary advantages (strength, speed, longevity, etc). I think this is why I agree with authors like Bram Stoker when they consider vampirism, lycanthropy and the like to be diseases. It certainly gives some benefit, but overall limits the person much more compared to what it gains.
 

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Fniff said:
Maybe the vampire would not be immortal,maybe it would just live for a very long time.
Maybe, but it kind of kills some of the point of being a vampire. I'm not sure I can see an evolution taking place that gives humans any other abilities that vampires possess, either. And another huge hole would be how an evolution would take place that would let a human sustain itself on blood, and only blood.
 

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Generator said:
Fniff said:
Maybe the vampire would not be immortal,maybe it would just live for a very long time.
Maybe, but it kind of kills some of the point of being a vampire. I'm not sure I can see an evolution taking place that gives humans any other abilities that vampires possess, either. And another huge hole would be how an evolution would take place that would let a human sustain itself on blood, and only blood.
Well,A show called Being Human gives the reason for vampire's wanting blood as psychological. You can get off it,but it is incredibly hard.
 

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There's really only two directions a human can evolve. Telepathy/ telekinesis and travel (flight, swimming, etc.) Unfortunately, as a whole humankind is avoiding such feats with distractions and/ or laziness. Instead of evolving in any form, it's so much easier to just keep enhancing technology to make our lives easier.
 

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Not evolutionary cause they wouldn't be evolving to adapt to thier environment. Would pretty much be doing the opposite, making thier existance harder to survive in this modern world.
Ninja'd.

I seriously doubt that mankind would ever evolve into something like vampires as it would be an evolutionary step back. One of the reasons that humans are the dominant species on Earth is because we can operate at any time of the day, unlike vampires which can only operate at night.
 

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Fniff said:
Generator said:
Fniff said:
Maybe the vampire would not be immortal,maybe it would just live for a very long time.
Maybe, but it kind of kills some of the point of being a vampire. I'm not sure I can see an evolution taking place that gives humans any other abilities that vampires possess, either. And another huge hole would be how an evolution would take place that would let a human sustain itself on blood, and only blood.
Well,A show called Being Human gives the reason for vampire's wanting blood as psychological. You can get off it,but it is incredibly hard.
But then how is it evolution? If they possess none of the ordinary vampire traits, what makes them a vampire in the first place?
 

Internet Kraken

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Yes, you could have a vampire. There are many creatures that live off of the blood of other creatures. But what you'll notice about most of these animals is that they are obnoxiously small. While it's possible for a creature similar to a human to live on blood, they would have to drink such large quantities of blood that survival would be nearly impossible.

As for werewolves.......I don't they are possible. Constantly undergoing such a rapid and extreme body changes? That would consume way to much energy.
 

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No because It's very bad to evolve to be only able to survive by killing the dominent species on the planet. It's why no dinosaur hunted T-rex.
 

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Humans are great apes, not in any way closely related to any sort of canine. It's not possible to turn into a bat, derive your entire sustenance from blood, or an stupid shit attributed to the new wave of vampires. They've lost all interest to me. I like the kind that can't come in, cross running water. Not the kind that kisses you cutely and you ride around on its back.