Poll: I know I'm probably going to hell for this, but...
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Hey hey, you leave twincest out of this!Aris Khandr said:If everyone agrees, I don't see why not. Plus, you know, three-ways with twins.
Also: not to defend it, but to all the people freaking out about the offspring part, it's been discovered that inbreeding only causes genetic abnormalities over a few generations or so of inbreeding, not a single case in one line.
Unethical? Nah, I don't reckon so. Detrimental to the gene pool? Yeah, that's true, although last time there was an incest topic I was surprised to find that the additional chance of having a genetic disease isn't actually that much higher, at least not in first generation. If their kids then had kids... Well that would be creepy, and highly detrimental.Revolutionary said:
No it should be illegal as there is always a chance of producing offspring(in certain cases). So as long as they are unrelated enough to allow for genetic diversity they can go at it like march hares for all I care.
Screw morals, look at it from a genetic standpoint. Incest is a minefield, nobody gets out safe. First-generation offspring have a higher chance of being mostly normal, but there's increased odds of genetic defects and recessive traits.
Incest and inbreeding. Yeah. Genetic minefield. For the sake of the rest of the human race, please don't.
Incest and inbreeding. Yeah. Genetic minefield. For the sake of the rest of the human race, please don't.
I think the entire fucking family should have to decide on it. Would you honestly want your son and daughter who you had such great hopes for abandoning their lives to create a retarded offspring just because it's legal?
Grandparents, uncles/aunts, parents, everyone should decide. If every single family member doesn't agree, it shouldn't be allowed within the family, and the two who were planning on going at it should be given a summary execution for being so disgusting and potentially ruining the family's name.
Grandparents, uncles/aunts, parents, everyone should decide. If every single family member doesn't agree, it shouldn't be allowed within the family, and the two who were planning on going at it should be given a summary execution for being so disgusting and potentially ruining the family's name.
HAHA see what I did there LOLzLegendaryGamer0 said:XDXDXDXDXDHankMan said:If they want to, fuck-em!
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I just don't want to know about it!
You avatar makes that statement hilarious. :/pyramid head grape said:
I feel I should stay more on the topic so If people want to do it, do it I don't care...really.
Interestingly, some Muslim families have intermarried cousins for so many generations that first cousins are almost indistinguishable genetically from brother and sister.GrizzlerBorno said:
OT: I don't think it is inherently wrong to do so. The laws against incest are in place most likely because of the increased risk of genetic abnormalities, and also the fact that as it is a deviant sexual activity it has of course been labeled as wrong since time immemorial. The saddest part about it is when siblings that were separated at birth and later meet and fall in love, only to be told marriage is illegal. Sure, they're genetically siblings, but they've never met before, so surely the emotional attachment is entirely different to that of siblings who have grown up with each other? As another poster said, as long as they submitted to genetic screening, I don't see a problem with procreation. Perhaps the law should be adjusted to the judge's discretion as to whether siblings can marry; again, the example I gave above is far different to a brother and sister who decide to marry having known each other for a lifetime.
Incest should be illegal all around. I'm not liberal on this at all.
Few reasons:
1.Abusive parents/older siblings could manipulate their family members into sex. If you raise your daughter up drumming the concept into her, by the time she turns 16(or whatever the age of consent is in your country) it wouldn't be too hard to forge an abusive relationship. It would technically be "consensual" and it would be hard to prove otherwise. I think it would lead to some pretty bad stuff. You could argue that it happens anyway, but at least with incest being illegal there is no place for them to hide and justify what they are doing. How would you prove it is consensual sex? Merely making some guy's 18 year old daughter say "yeah, it's consensual" isn't enough. I'd be wanting thorough psychological profiling on all of the family. Why? See point number 3. Having the power of familial influence in a sexual relationship is dangerous. Whether someone thinks it is consensual or not.
2.I personally think it is wrong to be sexually attracted to a close family member. Incredibly sick.
3.It isn't a healthy mindset. I'd encourage anyone to find someone who wants to fuck their sister or their mum that isn't a total crackpot. I think those that do seem to invariably suffer from a mental illness or a personality disorder to begin with.
4.The obvious health risks of reproduction. How would you police this? Make only same-sex incest legal? What about heterosexual couples who are infertile - are they allowed to have intercourse then? Whatever the decision it - it's going to be lots of fun trying to police it.
I have no problem with taking the conservative side here, even if it is technically the minority. I think many members of this forum are way too socially left-wing anyway - the forum is filled with idealists. I think we can all agree on that.
Feel free to go mental and passive aggressively try to imply I'm an idiot. I don't really care. I don't expect more than 50% agreement on anything, nor do I seek it.
Few reasons:
1.Abusive parents/older siblings could manipulate their family members into sex. If you raise your daughter up drumming the concept into her, by the time she turns 16(or whatever the age of consent is in your country) it wouldn't be too hard to forge an abusive relationship. It would technically be "consensual" and it would be hard to prove otherwise. I think it would lead to some pretty bad stuff. You could argue that it happens anyway, but at least with incest being illegal there is no place for them to hide and justify what they are doing. How would you prove it is consensual sex? Merely making some guy's 18 year old daughter say "yeah, it's consensual" isn't enough. I'd be wanting thorough psychological profiling on all of the family. Why? See point number 3. Having the power of familial influence in a sexual relationship is dangerous. Whether someone thinks it is consensual or not.
2.I personally think it is wrong to be sexually attracted to a close family member. Incredibly sick.
3.It isn't a healthy mindset. I'd encourage anyone to find someone who wants to fuck their sister or their mum that isn't a total crackpot. I think those that do seem to invariably suffer from a mental illness or a personality disorder to begin with.
4.The obvious health risks of reproduction. How would you police this? Make only same-sex incest legal? What about heterosexual couples who are infertile - are they allowed to have intercourse then? Whatever the decision it - it's going to be lots of fun trying to police it.
I have no problem with taking the conservative side here, even if it is technically the minority. I think many members of this forum are way too socially left-wing anyway - the forum is filled with idealists. I think we can all agree on that.
Feel free to go mental and passive aggressively try to imply I'm an idiot. I don't really care. I don't expect more than 50% agreement on anything, nor do I seek it.
Yes.pyramid head grape said:HAHA see what I did there LOLzLegendaryGamer0 said:XDXDXDXDXDHankMan said:If they want to, fuck-em!
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I just don't want to know about it!
You avatar makes that statement hilarious. :/pyramid head grape said:
I feel I should stay more on the topic so If people want to do it, do it I don't care...really.
OP, add a "And not a single fuck was given that day" option. XD
It's pretty impossible to make it illegal, since there's no way to keep track of it.
But people that want to fuck their relatives are a bit sick in the head. And I'm talking about immediate relatives that you've known your entire life. If you happen to be attracted to some distant cousin or aunt whom you've never seen you can't really stop that, but as soon as you know they're related to you by blood you need to back off.
There's a lot of incest going on in middle eastern cultures where teenagers are forced to marry within the family and the results are not pretty. Even when a man and a woman are related by great-grandparents, kids can be born with severe mental disabillities.
It's a taboo for a very good reason.
But people that want to fuck their relatives are a bit sick in the head. And I'm talking about immediate relatives that you've known your entire life. If you happen to be attracted to some distant cousin or aunt whom you've never seen you can't really stop that, but as soon as you know they're related to you by blood you need to back off.
There's a lot of incest going on in middle eastern cultures where teenagers are forced to marry within the family and the results are not pretty. Even when a man and a woman are related by great-grandparents, kids can be born with severe mental disabillities.
It's a taboo for a very good reason.
I used to think that it should be illegal, mostly due to the higher probability of birth defects in the potential children. But then I saw a forum post on a news site several years ago that posed an interesting question:
If two people each with a potentially dangerous genetic disorder, with a high-probability of being passed onto their children, wanted to have kids should the government prevent them from doing so? To take it further, at what point should the government be allowed to prevent two concenting adults from doing ANYTHING with each other? Where do you draw the line? Do the parent have to have NO genetic abnormalities? Sufficiently intellegent? Maintain the same moral and spiritual beliefs as the general populace? IMO, it's a slippery slope.
After thinking about it in those terms, I couldn't think of a reason to make it illegal.
If two people each with a potentially dangerous genetic disorder, with a high-probability of being passed onto their children, wanted to have kids should the government prevent them from doing so? To take it further, at what point should the government be allowed to prevent two concenting adults from doing ANYTHING with each other? Where do you draw the line? Do the parent have to have NO genetic abnormalities? Sufficiently intellegent? Maintain the same moral and spiritual beliefs as the general populace? IMO, it's a slippery slope.
After thinking about it in those terms, I couldn't think of a reason to make it illegal.
This, pretty much. What two people do conesntingly is no one else's business, and they can shoot each other repeatedly in the genitals for all I care, as long as they both agree to.JoJoDeathunter said:
However, it should be illegal to have incestual kids, as that isn't fair on the child to have to have a serious mental disorder.
Also, probably the closest poll I have ever seen.