Poll: IRAQ IS A LOST CAUSE!!!

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JWAN

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hansari said:
I'm sorry...but they never had a chance...


An in depth analysis on why we are screwed can be found here. [http://www.cracked.com/blog/iraqi-failures-for-the-troops/]

Or you could just watch more of these videos.

That jumping jacks video is over 3 years old. you really need to look at the progress that has been made in Iraq

besides there training raw recruits you cant gauge the success or failure on a bunch of new people
 

Eldarion

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You are an idiot.

You are borrowing someone else's opinion. And you are basing that opinion off of a 3 year old video on youtube. Get some real facts before you bother people with your opinion on things you know nothing about.
 

JWAN

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raw recruits that don't understand the language of the drill instructors = those videos.

I saw the jumping jacks video 2-3 years ago and you have to remember that jumping jacks/pushups/situps arent known around the world as the gold standard(s) of PT

I mean, I understand your confusion that you don't really have any knowledge of the military but the least you can do is some simple research.

Those people in those videos signed up to try and make their country a better place and to make it easier for the US to leave Iraq, I think they command some respect for at least trying to do something positive for their country at the risk of their lives and the lives of their family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpwAZQC1Hn0
^ I cite these British troops and their crappy cadence march under an American DI, it doesn't mean that they are incompetent, it means that they are training under completely different circumstances.

The Iraqis and Afghans have it even worse considering their previous military training revolved around putting farm animals and people in front of them to absorb bullets and shrapnel.
 

Ori Disciple

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as the poster above me (Jwan) stated: not everyone does the same stuff for PT, and some dont even bother with PT at all
I wish you would get:
1) more up to date info
2) actual info about the current situation
3) A less biased view about the whole situation
Please dont use someone elses opinions as your own, as it doesnt bode well for you.
Make up your own mind, after getting your facts straight on the matter your discussing, or else you get whats happening here (the thread, that is)

(a bit OT, but Jwan, LOVE your Avatar)
 

iJosh

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The war is going nowhere, Everyone should just get the hell out of Iraq and just forget about the oil.
 

DemonicVixen

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i can not understand why they are fighting in any war... I though once Sadam Hussane was gone, the war would end. Suddenly all that area seems at war... What the hell happened to start it? I once heard the troops thought of it as WW3 the way it was going.

I hate violence or fighting of any form :(
 

PurpleRain

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Caps lock and two videos does not make a good conversation nor does it give any political insight to why Iraq is a lost cause.