Stall said:
I'm sorry, but anyone saying "yes" never played D2. If they say so otherwise, then they are just lying. I cannot possibly understand how anyone who played D2 could have ANY problem with the online only game.
Well, you must understand the entirety of physics (even the parts undiscovered thus far) because they are real. I owned Diablo 2 and LOVED IT since launch because I loved Diablo 1. From the changes made from 1 to 2 I have been right there beside everyone waiting for Diablo 3. Wondering how they could possibly amplify it even more. This IS a deal breaker for me and I ain't lying. It sucks, for sure, but that is why I am thankful for torchlight for being there ready to take my money and accommodate me.
Let's break it down like this. So you had "closed battle.net," which as your online-only mode in D2. This is where a VAST majority of players exclusively spent their time. If your internet went down or you didn't have internet for some reason or another, you weren't going to be able to play your characters. Sure, you had single player mode, but honestly, what is the point of that? You'd have get to start a totally new character, and you'd never end up playing it again once you got your internet back. Yes, you had the option, but you never used it, nor did you need to, since you had no reason to invest any time in it.
To the bold part, how could anyone possibly know that? D2 wasn't set up to be able to see how much time people spent offline vs. online. That is merely speculation at best, but I suspect it more stating false information to make up a point. I wouldn't doubt that is where YOU spent most of your time but I doubt you or even Blizzard knows how people played. I have probably played D2 online for about 200 hours since it's release. I have clocked in WAY more hours than that in single player. I played singleplayer more because online everyone wanted to "rush you" through the acts and to level 99. THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO DO IN THE GAME! That is like someone asking you if you want them to beat Mario World for you so you don't have to bother with it. I liked starting fresh with a whole new adventure of maps and possible loot ahead of me. Each character ran different based on the loot they found.
IN that quote you assume everyone played the same way you did. I played offline when I had internet connectivity. I couldn't have played it near as much as I did without connectivity.
And then there was "open battle.net," which is where you could take your single player characters online. But this was full of hackers and other unsavory characters because it was not moderated and did not have as many anti-cheat guards in place. So, if you wanted to play online, then you would only use closed b.net, thus you would fall under the category of the above. Fuck, even if you wanted to play by yourself, it was smarter to have a toon on closed b.net and play in a passworded server, since it would give you the OPTION to play online in a better enviroment.
The last line is BS. That option don't mean crap if I WANT to play singleplayer. I already had an option. THE OPTION TO PLAY SINGLEPLAYER. WHy do I have to have it looming over me? How does that change anything. If I wanted to play multiplayer, it took 10 secs to save and exit, log in, and start/join a room. Why not offer the OPTION for people to not need internet? THAT is an option. D2's structure had this same option but people are claiming it didn't.
Face it: there was literally no reason for single player to exist in D2. People are just looking for a reason to *****, or are too busy getting caught up in controversy to see logically. Do I like the AH? Yes and no. I have some problems and concerns about it, like everyone else, but I am not prematurely judging it. But the online only mode just seems like a natural decision to me.
There are plenty reasons if you can shift paradigms. I am not looking for a reason to ***** and could give a shit about controversy or "hating". I don't want to hate D3, I been waiting too damn long for it. Instead of assuming everyone is just posing their distaste for this, it could be they are legitimately complaining about a feature in hopes it is removed. What do you care? You are getting online - which is what you obviously want. Why should we not get what we want? This is about DRM. They could provide what we ask easily, but they don't want to. So we don't want to buy it. Torchlight is right there ready to accommodate us. Diablo's legacy is overrated. Titan Quest, Dungeon Siege, Torchlight, and others have made just as good of games. If Diablo thinks that brand is what makes their game so special they can ignore a demographic, they can keep it.
The7Sins said:
You sir have put it best on why I will not get Diablo 3. The auction house was bad enough. No offline single player destroyed any hope of me getting it. Hell I a few months back was forced to get a new computer. I had been waiting for Diablo 3 in order to get my Diablo fix. Guess now I'll just install 2 and play that for my fix for now on. Diablo 3 is a travesty I shall not partake in.
That makes zero sense, sorry. Since your characters are stored locally in single player, so there are plenty (if not more) ways to lose them. Unless you remembered to back up your characters and somehow kept that backup for five years, or just left D2 installed on your computer and NEVER EVER got another computer for five years, nor had to ever reinstall your OS or wipe your drive, then sure, you are right. But I don't see the probability of either of those being very high. I think you are just trying to find reasons to get in the "bandwagon of hate," dare I say. Hey... what not? Activision is cool to hate, thus Blizzard is cool to hate as well.
Hehe, I am
that guy I have backed up my characters. I have for years. You just back them up before restoring your computer. Something I have only had to do twice on my D2 machine over 7 years. You may as well back up a character when you beat a difficulty anyways. The cheapest flashdrive can store a shitload of characters. My Diablo 2 backup folder is on a 4GB flash drive that is used for other stuff and the folder is so small, and it is so fast and easy to do it really isn't a big deal. It is like 3 files measured in Kbs. I am more than happy to take responsibility for the longevity of my characters and I bet more people back them up than you suspect.
Why is it so preposterous to add this feature in for people that want it? How do people believe the PR bullshit that this actually ADDS something to the game? They are removing something. Offline mode. This is apparent. It is black and white. PR has recently spun a little BS slant trying to claim it is adding something. But all they do is do a fancy circle talk and never explain what it does add. Because it doesn't add anything - well, DRM but they don't want to say that.
That is like when people say that they found a missing item in the last place they looked. I would hope so, because it would be pointless to keep looking for it after you found it.
