Poll: Is Halo 3 essentially for Halo Fanboys?

[Kalonus]

I personally loved the Halo series but if I was being perfectly honest with myself, when three came out I was disappointed. Don?t get me wrong I loved the campaign and building maps in forge, but in the end the multiplayer was amazing...As long as you can physically see who you?re playing against.

When I get my mates round and we LAN a few games the first game we reach for is Halo 3, mainly because all the other multiplayer games that are have came out and are coming out now don?t have 4 player split screen.

It's a great party game and I love it for it, but otherwise...It's mediocre at best online, it gets too boring too quickly.

 

[-Seraph-]

I have had no problem with halo in terms of multi player. I like the multi player a lot, it's what halo is mainly known for and although there are a few balancing issues here and there its still a rather fun game with a solid multi player experience.

As for stories...I found halo 1's decent, solid, but at the same time, not so original, hell I could point out all the references to other sci fi's thrown in there. Halo 2's story was far better and anyone who hates the arbiter should get the stick out of their ass and see how the arbiter was a unique and nice take on the entire halo perspective it was. Halo 2 showed that it's no Humans= good, aliens= bad, it showed that the covenant are not as bad as we made them out to be, just mislead ed by a bunch of power hungry zealots. Halo 3's story was alright, at least it offered some catharsis to the whole story line.

overall I enjoyed the games regardless of some of it's genericness and clicheness, at least it had a more developed storyline than most other shooters that saturate the market. I heard the books have better stories, and I would not mind reading them as the game stories where meh for me.

 

[rougeknife]

When better games are slighted and forgotten, the hate for Halo grows. Its not a bad game, just undeserving of the praise it gets.

 

[SecretTacoNinja]

I REALLY wish the Halo bullshit would go away, Everything was fine until the media and Halo-humpers ruined it. It was a good game, But not the GREATESTGAMEEVAR!!!1111.
Ugh, Sorry about that but Halo has come and gone, I really wish people would stop beating a dead horse. But anyway I played Halo 1 on co-op with my brother (The first shooter I played actually) and I bloody loved it, Then Halo 2 which was awesome and then a year and a fucking half of waiting for Halo 3, Which you can probably guess I was pissing my pants for. I'm really not sure about Halo 3, I first played it on Heroic level (thanks to my brother) which was a nightmare, But we still finished it in about four days which was weird. I started playing it again on normal,Which was a lot more enjoyable but then my disk fucked up and I can't play it anymore. So yes I enjoyed it, I just didn't like the ending much.

 

[Joeshie]

I'm going to give you an explanation as to why Halo gets so much flak.

First, I'll establish that Halo is a solid FPS. Single-player is pretty decent and multi-player is pretty good. However, neither the single-player nor the multi-player is at the very best in the FPS genre. As someone who has continually played the FPS genre since Doom, I can tell you that there are much better FPS out there than Halo.

The problem is that when Halo was first released, many of it's fans hadn't played an FPS prior to Halo. Having little experience with the genre prior to Halo, their standards were quite low. Instead of seeing Halo as a solid shooter, many mistook it as one of the best shooters ever made. Then they went onto forums where they proclaimed 'ZOMG HALO IS DA BEST SHOOTA EVA MAED!!!!111'. Finally, after more and more people were exposed to really great FPS games, the truth of Halo's quality started to emerge. People give it so much crap because they are tired of hearing from so many fanboys how it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. These problems were further amplified by the ridiculously high scores that reviewers kept throwing at the series.

It's a good FPS that just happens to be massively over-rated and over-hyped by many fans, thus causing the backlash.

Surely a game that inspires such desparation must be great.

Yeah, it's right up there with emo music and Uwe Boll movies.

 

[Eiseman]

With the advent of Halo, and people's reaction to it, I've begun to see a pattern with the sci-fi/fantasy genre in our pop culture. It's a niche form of entertainment, its followers more... I don't wanna say "nerdy," just a bit more interested in the facts and rules of their particular sci-fi world. The canon, if you will. For the most part, it stays out of the spotlight, and it's content to stay there, satisfying its fanbase with intricate fantasy rules or revised laws of physics, to make worlds unlike our own but worlds still, which make sense within their own context.

Then there's that one sci-fi/fantasy experience. You know, the one that explodes outside its niche following and spills into the mainstream. It may or may not be quality sci-fi/fantasy, but either way, it's accessible. What this amounts to is "unlearned" folks singing heaps and bounds over it, as though they found this generation's Citizen Kane, while the established fans of the genre either look at these strangers with confused looks on their faces, or ignore them and jump right into learning some new canon.

Gah, I feel like I'm losing my point, so I'm going to make a direct analogy here, using other media and their big breakout hits:

TV - Star Trek
Movies - Star Wars
Books - Lord of the Rings
Video Games - Halo

Very popular, very successful titles that had these kinds of reception: a strong following by its loyal fanbase, a huge chunk of "regular folks" who thought it was the bees' knees, and a bunch of outsiders calling the other two groups retards for liking it so much. Is this making sense? This is the pattern I'm seeing right now.

 

[Lord Krunk]

I've gotten to the point where I roll my eyes every time I see Halo 3 even mentioned in these forums.

Anyways, my profile picture explains my thoughts on Halo...

That has been my Instant Messenger icon for some time now.


Halo 3. What can be said about it? It's a game that will give you exactly what you like. Unfortunately that's all it gives you. Like the multiplayer more than the campaign? Good, now deal with the asshats. Hate the multiplayer but love the story? Good, now suck down the grenades.
It's just one of those games that you have to take at face value. If you expect too much you're not going to get it. But if you look at it, and expect some kick ass battles with good graphics, that's all you're going to get.

What he said. I won't elaborate on my previous rants.

Also, the banhammer (probably) cometh.

 

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

The only thing Halo ever did well... and I do mean EVER was to bring a competent shooter to the previous gen of consoles, like Golden Eye did on the N64. People are getting this shiny shit and going. "BEST THING EVER!" where we in the PC Gaming Master Race, look at it and go "Meh." We've shot it all before.Maybe we're cynics, but at least we've got the shooter experience to back it up.

Note my use of the word competent. It's NOT a bad shooter, by any means. It's just not the shining, cancer curing Messiah of the shooter genre that it's fan(boy)s would love everybody to believe.

As shooters go, Halo was okay. That's... about it.

 

[Spleeni]

Ya' know what would make Halo fun for me?
Strip away the storyline.
Take away the linear levels.
Put in a single map with a hundred enemies; 50 per side.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Ya' know what would make Halo fun for me?
Strip away the storyline.
Take away the linear levels.
Put in a single map with a hundred enemies; 50 per side.

You're pretty much saying 'Halo Wars' right there.

 

[WlknCntrdiction]

Halo was hyped to high heavens before release, unfortunately I was caught up in it(not to the extent that some said it would be the second coming of Jesus)and thought it would be the best FPS of all time. I feel even more stupid because I got the Legendary Edition of the game, £70 for a Spartan Helmet, you gotta be kidding me, the only thing it's good for is that it's a good hiding place for my condoms so my mum doesn't find them(I kid you not).

The first Halo was the best, from there it just went downhill, Bungie tried to have their cake and eat it, whilst the multiplayer got "better" the single player was left as an afterthought, I almost chucked the controller at the screen when MC said "Finishing this fight" at the end of H2, talk about a cliffhanger ending. The multiplayer isn't even THAT good, especially now we have the likes of COD4 and GoW to compare it to, heck I even find the action in Bioshock better than H3 and Bioshock doesn't even have multiplayer in it. I only still have H3 because my little brother(who knows no better)plays it and I doubt I would be able to sell it anyways. Coming from COD4 to play one match of H3 was torture, it's so slow and arduous compared to other games, I can barely keep my intererst, my brother thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, but then he is only 10 after all, everything is the greatest thing since sliced bread when you're 10.

In closing H3, tbh I wouldn't even say it's "average", I would use that term in the absolute loosest way you can until you have to drop it and use "shit" to describe it. It didn't live upto the hype and it's just boring as hell.

 

[spungemonkey]

They may not be unique but the flood were definitely terrifying. Especially in 1

EDIT: Terrifying is the wrong word, but I definitely wasnt expecting them.

Also, personally 2 was more disappointing than 3 to me because I was really looking forward to the battle being on Earth in 2 like Bungie said they were doing. Then I play the game to find out Earth makes up 2 levels and we're back to another Halo...awesome.

I think the thing that made the flood so scary - for me anyway - was playing it in the dark (First time I seen them) and that REALLY eerie music that was played along with them.

But I love Halo 3, I was so excited for it since I completed Halo 2. I never expected anything going in, I avoided all hype and never really knew anything about it (except for bubble shields) so you could say I was lucky. I wasn't expecting anything, never hear any hype.

With the exception of it being short, the campaign is excellent. I'm currently in my 6th playthrough of it doing the meta scoring this time.

The multiplayer is good too, excellent variety and I really like the maps. I also love how different the difficulty settings are, thre jump from easy to normal, from normal to heroic, from heroic to legendary are all immense and it's like your playing a completely different game each time. I also love the online co-op, and the 4 way co-op as well I done the story on legendary using it, that was 9 hours well spent

 

[Cerebrium]

Halo 2+3 were for fanboys. If Bungie thought with their minds and not their wallets, it would have stopped with the first one.

Before I get flamed, I own all 3.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Halo 2+3 were for fanboys. If Bungie thought with their minds and not their wallets, it would have stopped with the first one.

Before I get flamed, I own all 3.

So do I.

And I agree with you.

Mind you, Halo 2 was still a good bit of fun.

 

[Deathstop]

In my opinion:

Halo is without a doubt the best console FPS ever made.

Console FPS's suck.

Futher in my opinion:

Halo 1 was a great accomplishment in gaming, somehow managing to take an extremely cliche premise to create a game that was fun to play. Its online multiplayer was breakthrough technology that allowed console games to reach the same online capabilities as PC games.

Halo 2 improved on the fun aspects of Halo 1 while dimming down on the single-player. Not to any debilitating levels though, as Halo 2 was an all-around improvement to the game.

Halo 3 was not worth $60. If you've played Halo 2, you don't really need to check out Halo 3. Rent it, check out all the new stuff, and you've gotten the gist of it. Unless you happen to be a huge fan of the Halo serious, wherein you would already own a copy of Halo 3.

I am not a fan of Halo. I played Halo 1. I own (a copy of) Halo 2. I beat the single player campaign of Halo 2 and moved onto the multiplayer. The multiplayer was great for a console FPS, but still pale in comparison to PC games like Counter Strike.

And now the point:

I believe that most Halo 3's flak arises from the self-proclaimed experts claiming that Halo 3 is the greatest video game ever made ever and nothing will ever live up to its example. Most of which was claimed before it even came out. Naturally, people will respond by saying "you're retarded, and so is that which you believe in." For every screaming fan boy/girl that praises their game to the status of a virtual god, there is one angry misanthrope willing to verbally lobotomize the first group. Problem being the second group tends to stay angry longer than the first group maintains fealty. The end result is the voicing of more complaints than praises, endearing to a vicious cycle of defense-attack-defense.

 

[Bling Cat]

Halo 1 was a great accomplishment in gaming, somehow managing to take an extremely cliche premise to create a game that was fun to play. Its online multiplayer was breakthrough technology that allowed console games to reach the same online capabilities as PC games.

Halo 1 didnt have online multiplayer. The only way to have larger than four people playing at once was system link.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

This thread is just going to be a magnet for all the people that hate Halo because other people do.

I think Halo 3 isn't just for fanboys: It delivers what you expect it will: a story mode with huge battles and an addictive multiplayer. And to those that say that the multiplayer sucks because of the few idiots on it, just put the mute on if it bothers you that much.

 

[Anton P. Nym]

Halo is crap, go play System Shock 2 or Deus Ex to know what a good FPS is. Shity story, shitty gameplay and it is the reason most modern FPS's suck complete dick.

My, what an original critique. That must've taken, what, all of thirty seconds to generate... and it's so typical of the "Halo hate" too.

*Pats on head* There-there. There-there.

-- Steve

(Hell yes, I'm being patronising. I can logically lay out my reasons for enjoying the series until I starve to death at my keyboard and the reflexive hate won't go away, so I won't waste reason on the unreasonable anymore. Let them hate... it's a sign that they still have fear.)

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Halo is crap, go play System Shock 2 or Deus Ex to know what a good FPS is. Shity story, shitty gameplay and it is the reason most modern FPS's suck complete dick.

My, what an original critique. That must've taken, what, all of thirty seconds to generate... and it's so typical of the "Halo hate" too...

...I can logically lay out my reasons for enjoying the series until I starve to death at my keyboard and the reflexive hate won't go away, so I won't waste reason on the unreasonable anymore. Let them hate... it's a sign that they still have fear.

Exactly. When people hate something unreasonably, you cannot convince them that it isn't worth hating. A major reason that people (many of them haven't even played the game in my experience) dislike Halo 3 is the fact that it was hyped up so much by the gaming media. Nothing could be as good as the hype was making it out to be, but it was still thoroughly enjoyable in my opinion.