If feelings are being hurt, you should probably consider what side of the joking around/bullying line you come down on, regardless of the joke's content.
Poll: Is it okay to make straight jokes?
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I don't think it's wrong even to make homosexual jokes, except there's a catch, they have to not be homophobic. We have plenty of jokes about heterosexual sex and men-women interactions, isn't the ultimate acceptance/integration be if they were treated as the same sort of joke?
I'd say that it's okay to joke about everything at any time, I mean it's just a joke. Have we really not evoled past the fact that we can't take a joke? I can take any joke about me. The only time I'm offended is if it's inaccurate.
I hate political correctness, since it actually creates animosity rather than eliminates it. It may be because where I come from there is no past actions that can lie in the background and cause unintended double intendres.
So my thought on this is, say whatever the hell you want if you're with friends. If they're your true friends it shouldn't matter. If they're not your friends, then be a little careful, but censor yourself. The thing most people take offence with is being an exception. If you were to give the impression that you can't be yourself around someone because of their race or sexuality, that's when you're truly a racist. I'd take much more offence if people joked about me behind my back in stead of in front of it.
I hate political correctness, since it actually creates animosity rather than eliminates it. It may be because where I come from there is no past actions that can lie in the background and cause unintended double intendres.
So my thought on this is, say whatever the hell you want if you're with friends. If they're your true friends it shouldn't matter. If they're not your friends, then be a little careful, but censor yourself. The thing most people take offence with is being an exception. If you were to give the impression that you can't be yourself around someone because of their race or sexuality, that's when you're truly a racist. I'd take much more offence if people joked about me behind my back in stead of in front of it.
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But look what i accidentally found:
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It's about knowing your audience. Well, that and the delivery. Accusing them of turning straight seems innocent enough, especially if they are the sort who makes gay jokes when they themselves are gay. If they are quite serious people then they might well just not get it.
So...there's nothing wrong with it in principle, but everyone's sense of humour is different,
So...there's nothing wrong with it in principle, but everyone's sense of humour is different,
I see nothing wrong with it as long as they are your friends. Though I could understand making homosexual jokes can be touchy to some people. They are getting treated pretty badly. Still it really depends on the friend. I remember being at a party with a gay friend and someone commented how hard he drew on cigarettes. (he could finish one in like a minute) I replied its because he's so good at sucking and he burst into laughter.
I know that your joke wouldn't offend me, in fact I would find it funny (and not in the pretend giggle kind of way). You don't think gays make fun of straights? Of course they do! (oooOOOooo watch out you might catch the gay!) There is nothing wrong with jokes and you seem to have a good idea on what type of people your friends are so I would say go with it.
The way I see it as long as they are your friend (so they know your true personality and beliefs) your fine. Even if you say something thats offensive, they will know you didn't mean it to be harmful.
I know that your joke wouldn't offend me, in fact I would find it funny (and not in the pretend giggle kind of way). You don't think gays make fun of straights? Of course they do! (oooOOOooo watch out you might catch the gay!) There is nothing wrong with jokes and you seem to have a good idea on what type of people your friends are so I would say go with it.
The way I see it as long as they are your friend (so they know your true personality and beliefs) your fine. Even if you say something thats offensive, they will know you didn't mean it to be harmful.
Hmmm... I can think of a few ways that the joke could be worded better, but I don't think there was anything wrong with it. If you feel comfortable joking with them about it, that just shows that you don't think it's a big deal. There's nothing wrong with a little light-hearted teasing between friends.
It's not really okay to make offensive jokes about anyone, it creates divides and hurts both parties. If your tone was to be 'snide' as you suggest, it gives the impression that you'd think there was something wrong with your friends being straight, which is similarly bad to someone making the original joke about two same-sexed friends trying to make fun of them by suggesting they're gay, therefore suggesting being gay is something to be ashamed of.
Even making group-ist jokes about your own group can be in a way detrimental (women making anti-women jokes to fit in with the guys, for example; encouraging sexism, even if it elevates her own social status.) However, if you weren't being snide about it, it could also be a thinly veiled gay joke, but not one about being gay or straight, but about being homophobic:
If you weren't actually trying to be a bit nasty about your friends, that is. Intent is a factor. But reception is a bigger factor, I think.
Even making group-ist jokes about your own group can be in a way detrimental (women making anti-women jokes to fit in with the guys, for example; encouraging sexism, even if it elevates her own social status.) However, if you weren't being snide about it, it could also be a thinly veiled gay joke, but not one about being gay or straight, but about being homophobic:
The thing is, being in the closet is a pretty much strictly homosexual thing. If you turn it on its head, you're not really making a statement about straight people because straight people are never really in the closet. The (genuine) humour in your joke is that you've turned a ridiculous statement on its head to show that just because two people of whatever gender are in a room alone, it says nothing about their sexuality.Drake_Dercon said:
If you weren't actually trying to be a bit nasty about your friends, that is. Intent is a factor. But reception is a bigger factor, I think.