Poll: Is it still piracy if...

[ElNeroDiablo]

No it is not Copyright Infringement (Piracy is ONLY on the high seas where the Pirates have no country to call home) to have to crack a piece of data you legitimately bought in order to use it.
Sure, the company can ***** about it in their EULA (which isn't always legally enforceable anyway, look at Microsoft's attempt to lock every copy of Windows to a single hardware setup which is illegal under most countries Consumer Laws, such as in Australia where Microsoft Windows is recognised as a separate item to the hardware one installs it on), but YOU bought that piece of software for YOUR use, and if YOU want to modify it in order to get full use out of it (such as a No-CD crack) then I have no problems with it.

WAY back in the day with Diablo II (around Version 1.03 or 1.04), there was a NoCD crack floating around the net that allowed one to play the game without the CD in the optical drive if one wished. In a later patch (around 1.09 I think it was) Blizzard officially put their own NoCD crack in the game so player who used that patch didn't have to finagle with a dodgy site in order to save their CD's from wear-and-tear.

 

[JochemDude]

Even if it's illegal sometimes it's necessary, I don't always have an internet connection and I do want to play certain games that demand it of me.

 

[Mandalore_15]

I don't know if it's piracy or not, but I don't see anything wrong with you cracking a game that you bought. Although people will always bring up the ToS and the EULA agreements.

Well, in europe these EULA's are invalid as they are only allowed to be one page on a monitor screen and in general they are several pages and you have to scroll, which makes them invalid, too.

Where did you learn that exactly? I'd like to take a look.

 

[Erana]

I thought people (In the US) got the right to remove DRM of legitimately purchased products after the whole "Jailbreaking iPhones" thing. Was I mistaken?

 

[bakan]

I don't know if it's piracy or not, but I don't see anything wrong with you cracking a game that you bought. Although people will always bring up the ToS and the EULA agreements.

Well, in europe these EULA's are invalid as they are only allowed to be one page on a monitor screen and in general they are several pages and you have to scroll, which makes them invalid, too.

Where did you learn that exactly? I'd like to take a look.

Learned it from a lawyer in school during extracurricular activities some years ago, it's stated in an official journal of the european union but I can't find the exact quote right now.

 

[Blackpapa]

Morally? No, of course it's not piracy. You bought the product, you own it.

Legally? Possibly, depending on the country. And even if you come with the best intentions, do you think Activision, Sony or Ubisoft would hesitate for a split second before they'd curb-stomp you with their lawyers?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8-dii9Ma0[/youtube]

 

[kasperbbs]

No, i often do that myself. Its not like it does something bad for the developers, what do they care, they got the money for that game.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Learned it from a lawyer in school during extracurricular activities some years ago, it's stated in an official journal of the european union but I can't find the exact quote right now.

In the UK and France, EULA are invalid, the court of law not the law of a copyright holder is true.

If EULA were valid then I could technically tell you that whatever I say to be true (which it is BTW) because I am the copyright holder of this comment, this would set a dangerous precedent. As an extreme example I could state that people are immune from doing illegal shit on film because their films hold a EULA. That shit does not fly, not with most of us anyway.

I thought people (In the US) got the right to remove DRM of legitimately purchased products after the whole "Jailbreaking iPhones" thing. Was I mistaken?

No, you have the right to jailbreak your iPhones because doing so makes the iPhone do the things its competitors do, such as "mass messaging", Apple attacked jailbreaking via courts because it said jailbreaking is "anti competitive", unfortunately for Apple JB'ing the iPhone made it competitive. The Supreme Judge saw that and allowed it

edit: that only applies to iPhones, in the US.

 

[FuktLogik]

It's only piracy if balls touch. I may be confusing that with something else...

 

[Omnific One]

No, because why should I have to put in the disc and wait for the drive to spin up if I bought it?