No, they are progressive rock, hence the different styles of rock they applied to their song. For example The immigrant song, is hard rock, and Stairway to heaven is more in line with classic rock (to begin with anyway).
Poll: Is Led Zeppelin Metal?
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Why on earth would you try to lable a band into a genre? Especially bands like Led Zeppelin, who have a very uniqe sound, can't and shouldn't wear that lable. Besides, it's only opinion, and the only way to know if you like them is to listen to their music.
Rather pointless topic, really.
Rather pointless topic, really.
If Heavy Metal didn't exist as a genre before the 90's, then how could the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal genre have existed in the 80's?Communist partisan said:
For bands like Iron Maiden, Saxon or Diamond Head to be considered the new wave of that genre, then that genre would have had to exist before their time, in the 70's with bands like Black Sabbath.
Heavy Metal definitely existed as a genre long before the 90's.
They are in the genre of "Led".
Speaking of LZ, it's time to GET THE LED OUT. And listen to "Fool in the Rain" for about an hour straight. Just can't get enough of that song...
Speaking of LZ, it's time to GET THE LED OUT. And listen to "Fool in the Rain" for about an hour straight. Just can't get enough of that song...
I'd say they're proto-metal (which I think I may have just invented) so they serve as a genesis point without actually being fully metal. A bit like how Iggy and the Stooges, MC5 and the Modern Lovers are proto-punk.
In fact, if I had my say, I'd call them blues rock more than anything. Like I said earlier, their relationship to metal is just that: a relationship.
I'd say the first heavy metal band in the proper sense were Black Sabbath, or Deep Purple.
In fact, if I had my say, I'd call them blues rock more than anything. Like I said earlier, their relationship to metal is just that: a relationship.
I'd say the first heavy metal band in the proper sense were Black Sabbath, or Deep Purple.
Can you provide any proof of any band being called Heavy Metal in the 80's? I was there, hell I was at the shows and they were called Rock and even hard rock, but never metal. Metal was a term adopted in the 90's prolly to better categorize music in stores, when there was stores that solly sold albums. Hell, Nirvana pioneered grunge, but what are they filled under at your local store?Jamash said:
At the end of the day, you can call any band what you want to call them.
Like I said before, there was the whole NWOBHM movement, in which bands were attributed to being the New Wave Of British Heavy Metal, the term being coined by a music journalist in 1979:L8NEYET said:
I think the term "Heavy Metal" itself was coined by a music journalist reviewing a Jimi Hendrix performance, saying something like "it sounded like heavy metal falling from the sky".Wilipedia's entry on NWHOBH said:
I'm of a similar age to you and have also been to a lot of Heavy Metal gigs (although I didn't go to any gigs when I was a young child or have much music awareness until after the 80's), and I've always known the genre as Heavy Metal, but maybe it's different in America.
Heavy Metal has existed in the UK before 1990, but I can't speak for other countries.
EDIT: Also, the Heavy Metal music magazine Metal Hammer [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_hammer] was first published in 1986, so Heavy Metal as a genre must have been a fairy popular and accepted term for that magazine to have started.
Some songs moreso than others. I would say proto-metal if anything, because I don't really think they're a metal band, but they set out a lot of the style and themes of metal.
'Genres' are just labels to categorise music, and so are often arbitrary and ascribed post-event. In 1750 I don't think music critics suddenly decided, 'Right, Haydn's just started writing his symphonies, therefore the Baroque period is over and now Classical music is the thing!'
The whole argument has a touch of the absurd - there are no cut-offs, music is constantly evolving. These categories are just something we've invented to box music up into manageable chunks for our brains to understand.
But in this specific case, my personal view (and that's all it can be) is that Led Zep (like Cream and Hendrix) were primarily blues/rock groups who developed a sound best described as Rock or Heavy Rock. For my money, it wasn't until Sabbath, and then later Judas Priest and Maiden, that Heavy Metal as a genre took off.
But as I said, this is all make-believe to help my simple brain conceptualise the changing sounds; in reality they are all great bands who have stylistic qualities in common, but all evolved differently. If every band conformed to what a certain 'genre' said they should be, I think music as a whole would be poorer.
The whole argument has a touch of the absurd - there are no cut-offs, music is constantly evolving. These categories are just something we've invented to box music up into manageable chunks for our brains to understand.
But in this specific case, my personal view (and that's all it can be) is that Led Zep (like Cream and Hendrix) were primarily blues/rock groups who developed a sound best described as Rock or Heavy Rock. For my money, it wasn't until Sabbath, and then later Judas Priest and Maiden, that Heavy Metal as a genre took off.
But as I said, this is all make-believe to help my simple brain conceptualise the changing sounds; in reality they are all great bands who have stylistic qualities in common, but all evolved differently. If every band conformed to what a certain 'genre' said they should be, I think music as a whole would be poorer.
Sigh. Why do you guys never allow for a nuanced option in the polls?wastedyouth89 said:
Zeppelin mixed southern rock and blues chords with all sorts of other musical styles - the bridge of "Fool in The Rain" is a Latin jam. Metal chords are based on blues chords, and a lot of early metal guitar stylings were based on Page's guitar work. "Glam metal" (which isn't metal at all), such as Def Leopard and about 3 dozen other top 40 bands of the 80's, was greatly influenced vocally by Robert Plant's voice, which is to say they tried to emulate it without really getting it. This is just like all the "Pop Punk" bands that tried to ape NOFX but didn't understand what they were co-opting.
I wouldn't call Zeppelin "a metal band," though without their influences and to a lesser degree Black Sabbath's, metal would be either nonexistent or dramatically different. And we never have to have a lapdance ruined by "Pour Some Sugar On Me." Or "Girls Girls Girls." Or "Cherry Pie." Jesus, why do women who dance professionally love such shit music?
The thing is that Black Sabbath were also totally influenced by blues(probably more than Zep). Started out as a blues band and even included a blues cover on their first album, but still ended up being heavier than some modern metal bands.Nigh Invulnerable said:
