Poll: Is Xbox Live multiplayer going down hill?

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SlasherX

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I'm asking this question because it seems to me that every single big budget multiplayer game on Live(mainly FPS since those are the most played, http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/09/30/live-activity-for-week-of-sept-20th.aspx released in the last year and a half seems to be hacked, glitchs being exploited and not patched and the games being generally annoying to play online and the developers do nothing about it. So escapist memebers I'm asking your opinion is it going downhill. Dont be a Troll




OT: And ever single person being either a screaming tween or being a asshole, and the fact that the file complaint process doesn't work so the assholes still play
 

luckycharms8282

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*you're* an idiot

I dislike the xbox live community as a whole, from the annoying singing twelve year olds to the hackers, glitchers, and modders, and then back to having to pay fifty bucks for it.
 

Rusty Bucket

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A game being glitchy and annoying has no relevance whatsoever to the quality of the Xbox Live service. Although I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Do you mean that Xbox live (that is, the service) is going downhill, or that multiplayer games in general are?
 

Space Spoons

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I think saying it's going downhill implies there was a time when it wasn't a horrible experience, and as far as I know, this isn't the case. Can't miss what you never had. Best to just avoid playing with random strangers altogether and only play with your friends, if you can. Or, at the very least, use your mute function.
 

katsumoto03

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Nah, It's as bad as it ever was. I use Live for all of my FPSs and I really hate the community. It's still fun, I just mute the squeakers and douchebags. 50 bucks a year isn't a problem for me, so I end up keeping it around.

Playstation has it's fare share of dicks online as well, FYI.
 

Thunderhorse31

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I was unaware that big-budget FPS games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Medal of Honor and the like were exclusive to the 360 and were only exploitable on Live.

But now that I have been educated, then yes of course, XBL sucks.
 

Throwitawaynow

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It has no where to go but up. Same with every internet community, they're ALL cess pools. Some communities just lack mics.
 

Snotnarok

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When hasn't xbox live been shitty? ANY game I played in in 90% of the matches it was just jerks.

Games where you could pick up allies, people would just run right by me instead of picking me up. Borderlands I got kicked because I didn't have PvP turned on, another time I got kicked for killing a boss.

There wasn't a single enjoyable game to be played alone. Hell back with Gears of War 9/10 times the person that joined my friends on a team was a team killer.


Xbox Live is shit, I don't know how anyone swears by that service when I can't find a single match on over 10 games that hasn't been people just being assholes not even hackers just flat out assholes.

I play on steam? I rarely see that kind of shit and when I do, they're usually kicked for being an asshole.
 

Bon_Clay

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Don't know, I don't play online on my 360, and not interested in generic boring mainstream FPS games anyway. So I guess I'm not very helpful on the subject.
 

Nmil-ek

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Going downhill? Did I miss something in the last few years, when was it ever up?
 

Awexsome

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When it comes to all the glitches and exploits MW2 has gotten the horrible reputation of LIVE being full of that.

But with the new wave of games I hope things will get better.

Besides Reach will always be under the watchful eye of Bungie. KEEP IT CLEAN.
 

Free Thinker

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Awexsome said:
When it comes to all the glitches and exploits MW2 has gotten the horrible reputation of LIVE being full of that.

But with the new wave of games I hope things will get better.

Besides Reach will always be under the watchful eye of Bungie. KEEP IT CLEAN.
Damn ostriches...oh wait! You mean "play nice".
OT: I tolerate it. But when a troll comes out from under his/her bridge, troll back. You got 2 options in XBL. Mute or Counter-Troll.
 

SelectivelyEvil13

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Going down hill? Well, I guess it is still devolving as more and more puerile morons p--- in the swimming pool. I would say it is tantamount to a Asymptote as there are still good people on Live, despite the overwhelming majority of twats. The proliferation of genuinely poor behavior coupled with increasingly younger users does not help the matter in the slightes.

I find that the competitive structure of Xbox Live also is a bit detrimental towards a community geared more towards amicability than teabagging. Even the Gamerscore, despite its nonentity value, somehow provides enough motivation for people to abandon all courtesy or cooperation in the hopes of elevating their E-Nises.

Given the changes Xbox Live has seen and the lack of community progress or moderation, I feel that the multiplayer is not even its "true" focus. Rather it feels more like how many free computer-based features can it reproduce for sixty dollars a year with the adjunct bonus of exposure to deafening verbal enfilades. That is why I refuse to pay for Xbox Live anymore, as my experience in the past has taught me that, given the impossibility of playing only with friends, the multiplayer aspect could be filled in with bots and only my sanity would notice a difference.
 

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SlasherX said:
I'm asking this question because it seems to me that every single big budget multiplayer game on Live(mainly FPS since those are the most played, http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/09/30/live-activity-for-week-of-sept-20th.aspx released in the last year and a half seems to be hacked, glitchs being exploited and not patched and the games being generally annoying to play online and the developers do nothing about it. So escapist memebers I'm asking your opinion is it going downhill. Dont be a Troll




OT: And ever single person being either a screaming tween or being a asshole, and the fact that the file complaint process doesn't work so the assholes still play
Hmm. I'm assuming you're talking about Infinity Ward and Modern Warfare 2, yes? This game is terrible for multiplayer. Infinity Ward isn't updating (and hasn't updated for some time). I can't get into any lobby without there being at least one hacker/modder. And definitely not without someone that uses glitches to cheat (mainly for Hardcore Search and Destroy. Like pre-tubing or pre-fire).

As far as the screaming "tweens" goes, blame the parents for buying them the game. They're obviously underage and most places I buy games from (Wal-mart, Gamestop, Bestbuy) ask you for an ID-just like if you were buying, say, alcohol or cigarettes. It's the parents and their ignorance to what goes on in the Xbox Live community as far as MW2 goes.

The file complaint does work, but it just takes quite a few complaints before Xbox Live does anything. Ex: If you're playing with 3-4 friends on MW2 (doesn't matter what lobby) then get them to file complaints too. That'll speed up the process.

I've lost faith in Infinity Ward. Modern Warfare 2 could have been so good. But their BS has killed the experience for me. Ex: After Treyarch launched CoD: WaW, they took out the pre-tubing. Yeah, ot took them 2-3 months, but they took it out nontheless. Infinity Ward did not. I assumed it would be a face-palming given to not allow pretubing; or at the VERY least, not on Hardcore Search and Destroy.
In Conclusion...MW2 and IW suck @ss

Edit P.S.: Also, very much anticipating Black Ops. I think it'll kick the snot out of MW2.
 

ajofflight

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I take umbrage to the u se of the word "going". It HAS been down the hill, bleeding in a ditch for years. Or at least, that's my opinion :D
 

Lullabye

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Nmil-ek said:
Going downhill? Did I miss something in the last few years, when was it ever up?
When it was still above the Earth's crust. Now it's just working it's way down to a hell we've only dreamed of.
 

Sleekgiant

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This is like trying to say 4chan was good, it never was, not even in the XBOX hueg XBOX days and Halo 2.
 

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Garak73 said:
I don't use XBOX Live for gaming, just for Netflix so I can't say. I do think that with the price increase and developers starting to charge extra for multiplayer it will take some damage.
That's a very expensive netflix account you have there.

OT: I feel it's been improving dramatically. Not only has it been adding interesting non gaming alternative features, it doesn't dick over it's users in a way your ps3 will (consistently taking away features). More developers (such as [surprisingly] Bungie), are trying to weed out the obnoxious assholes now, rather than ignore them. Microsoft (Live) has little responsibility in how the developers choose to patch their game. I feel your beef lies not with Microsoft but game developers.
 

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SlasherX said:
I'm asking this question because it seems to me that every single big budget multiplayer game on Live(mainly FPS since those are the most played, http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/09/30/live-activity-for-week-of-sept-20th.aspx released in the last year and a half seems to be hacked, glitchs being exploited and not patched and the games being generally annoying to play online and the developers do nothing about it. So escapist memebers I'm asking your opinion is it going downhill. Dont be a Troll
Any online gaming community is going to be filled to capacity with assholes, hackers, and griefers as....well...that's pretty much what humanity is comprised of. That said, Live has been going down-hill in my eyes. And it's not for the reasons you may think.

For starters, the party and messaging systems have been utter broken shit the past 8+ months. They bug out, crash, lock-up, and just simply fail at every turn. I can't count the number of times I've had parties crash when we exceeded more the three people. Likewise, I've had my inbox fuck up so many times I almost fear checking messages. There was literally a time when I supposed got game invites from every person on my friends list at the same time. Seeing as most weren't online at the time and many didn't have the games they invited me to, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that they actually didn't send an invite.

Now, I can put up with that most of the time, but it's the other things that have really been driving me mad. Let's start with the matchmaking. Unless you're playing one of the latest high-profile titles like Reach or Modern Warfare 2, the matchmaking is lack-luster at best. It takes far too long to fill lobbies, especially considering it's rare for Live to refresh the server que without direct user intervention.

Don't even get me started on the dashboard lag and occasion crash. (and no, it's not just my Xbox) Let alone, since the last system update, DLC packages fail frequently. I've heard too many times about people that, having booted their 360 offline, load a game only to find that their DLC is unavailable. The only way to remedy this is to login to Live and download an "update". Bullshit. It's not an update, it's the 360 having to re-validate your content. Something it should NOT have to do unless you're moved content or formatted a device. Here's an example:

I once loaded Halo Wars, in online mode, to play some skirmish games. No update or content patch. After a single match, I had to step away for about ten minutes. So I turned off the console. After returning, I turned it back on and started to load the game again. However, my friend had to (for some reason) muck around with the config settings on our router. So, I unplugged the 360's cat-5 cable and proceeded loading. To my chagrin, I found all of my DLC gone. I checked my storage devices. Oh shock of shocks, it was all there. Reloaded Halo Wars. DLC no where to be found. Eventually, I logged back into Live and after loading up the game for a fourth time, was immediately informed there was a "required update". As soon as this "update" finished, my DLC miraculously reappeared.

Frankly, I'm seriously starting to wonder what Microsoft does with all of the money we Live users pay for the service. It's obviously not for updating and maintaining the service.