Poll: Is Yahtzee serious?
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Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.erttheking said:
I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.
I doubt all the hate he throws out for these games are completely genuine. He plays up a fair deal of it for effect like everyone else says. Though, I find most of his opinions to be fairly valid once you filter out some of the venom he usually packs into his reviews. The only review of his I can really disagree with was his Dead island review. I thought the game was actually quite fun in spite of his outright hatred of it.
I see 5 platformers, 3 rpgs, 3 action/adventure, 2 sandbox, not sure what to classify star fox as but the remaining games are all shooters. about half of your collection listed are shooters
From what I see of your game list I think you're not as diverse as you'd like to believe.erttheking said:
I see 5 platformers, 3 rpgs, 3 action/adventure, 2 sandbox, not sure what to classify star fox as but the remaining games are all shooters. about half of your collection listed are shooters
Um....pardon? I played Nintendo for years before getting an xbox and frankly ever since then I just can't play my Wii again, everything on the xbox just seems more fun. I have played multiple series on both the Xbox and Nintendo consoles, every game has their own style that make them unique. I have played Super Mario 64, Super Mario sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (1-3) Metroid Prime 1-3, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Ocarina of time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Star Fox Assualt, Star Fox 64, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1 and 2) Call of Duty Black Ops, Battlefield 2 Bad company, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Grand Theft Auto 4, Red Dead Redemption, and Gears of War (2 and 3). I'd like to think that my horizons are pretty wide.Jimbo1212 said:
You prove my point - now that you have gone outside of just Nintendo, you realise that many of their recent titles are dire.erttheking said:
However, why have you not played on a PlayStation yet or PC??? Until you have played everything, how can you have a well rounded opinion? This is why I think Yahtzee is serious as he has done this and so have I which is why I agree with most of his views.
NB. That list of games is very small. I have played well over a few hundred games (think about every series of games at the moment - I have played the original to the new ones).
It all fairness, Yahtzee seems to treat everyone who plays gears of war as a mindless fanboy who will use whatever defense necessary to block his insults. Frankly I do believe that plot is a key part of a game, and while a game can survive without a plot it's usually better if it has one, this is one of the reasons that Lost Planet 2 is gathering dust on my shelf despite the gameplay being decent. The thing is I thought Gears 3 did it's story telling rather well and the guy has a point. If you make someone watch Return of the Jedi two years after watching a New Hope and the Empire strikes back, he can harp on about how the plot didn't make any sense because he didn't remember it but this isn't fair for two reasons. 1. Yahtzee plays a game, has to think up jokes, write a script put the video together, do the voice acting and write blog posts all in one week while squeezing in the rest of his life around it. That doesn't sound like the proper way to become immersed in a game and properly remember it. 2. Even if the plot to the first two games were completely forgettable, it's not Gears 3's fault, it was Gears 1 and 2's fault and it seems unfair that it gets marked down because of the quality of the games that came before it. Also if he did forget, why didn't he watch the five minute recap video that was on the disk and had a nice big exclamation point next to it that summed everything up nicely and was convently located on the same menu as start campaign?SecretNegative said:
Ugh, first of all, I am not buying a game on a PS3 because a PS3 costs more than I am willing to spend, however several PS3 games have sparked my interest, including Uncharted, Resistance, MGS, Valkeria Councils and Infamous, but I'm just not willing to spend money for just that handful. Also, those games that I listed were only a fraction of the games that I have played, if I was to list every game that I have ever played this would be one freaking long post, I'd say that I'd played around a couple hundred games too, didn't think that I'd have to mention that. As for PC, I mainly use my dad's computer, and he would kill me if I started clogging it up with stuff like Starcraft. Incidentally I only haven't played Wii because frankly I'm a violent shooter guy, something the Wii lacks. I still go back and play Metroid sometimes.Jimbo1212 said:
I think it is fair to say he has never made a point I have thought "that is just not true" to.
He exaggerates and he blows tiny things way out of proportion to give a negative image of a generally at least 'decent' game, but think about what he actually does: he plays most of a different game every week. He is probably sick of the bloody things, especially when he sees the same mechanics and graphics, day in day out.
So yes, I think he is serious. He never lies and is paid to make hilarious criticisms of tiny niggles. With the mainstream games industry the way it is, I can hardly blame him; I only play at most 6 different games a year (damn low paid job...) and even I get fed up of some of the things he harps on about!!
He exaggerates and he blows tiny things way out of proportion to give a negative image of a generally at least 'decent' game, but think about what he actually does: he plays most of a different game every week. He is probably sick of the bloody things, especially when he sees the same mechanics and graphics, day in day out.
So yes, I think he is serious. He never lies and is paid to make hilarious criticisms of tiny niggles. With the mainstream games industry the way it is, I can hardly blame him; I only play at most 6 different games a year (damn low paid job...) and even I get fed up of some of the things he harps on about!!
I'd say he's serious.
At the same time, he's stated in the past that he's noticed a lot more people like his reviews when they're negative, so I think he focuses a lot more on the negative points for comedic effect. Rewatch the Arkham Asylum review, for example.
At the same time, he's stated in the past that he's noticed a lot more people like his reviews when they're negative, so I think he focuses a lot more on the negative points for comedic effect. Rewatch the Arkham Asylum review, for example.
Well I'd say his style is more of a cynical comedy, so it's important not to take everything he says seriously.
He uses comedy as a means to make a point. I believe he's very serious in his opinons for example thinking games like Gears of War 3 are dull and that Just Cause 2 was the most fun game last year. He exaggerates problems with games but that's also to make a point, as a critic it's your duty to beat flaws over the head with a big stick, Yahtzee just makes his beatings funnier than you average critic and gets more viewers for it.
I find his reviews very informative even if I do have to take them with a pinch of salt unlike a lot of major games sites like IGN and Gamespot who have a broken scoring system and more often than not very poor content in the reviews that doesn't really translate the playing experience and overlook a lot of the issues with titles that are considered major releases, this is attrubuted to pay offs usually but there is something unusual about how critically acclaimed some of these major titles are which do absolutely nothing new.
Finally I like his ultimate goal when playing a game: Fun. Sure he's pessimistic and hate filled but when you look at some of his favourite titles, Painkiller, Just Cause 2, Prince of Persia, Resident Evil 4, Saints Row 2, you notice they're all good FUN games not dragged down by other elements or by wanting to be a film (Silent Hill 2 is an exception because while it's fun it's not on the same childish level of complete silliness as in some of the other titles)
I find his reviews very informative even if I do have to take them with a pinch of salt unlike a lot of major games sites like IGN and Gamespot who have a broken scoring system and more often than not very poor content in the reviews that doesn't really translate the playing experience and overlook a lot of the issues with titles that are considered major releases, this is attrubuted to pay offs usually but there is something unusual about how critically acclaimed some of these major titles are which do absolutely nothing new.
Finally I like his ultimate goal when playing a game: Fun. Sure he's pessimistic and hate filled but when you look at some of his favourite titles, Painkiller, Just Cause 2, Prince of Persia, Resident Evil 4, Saints Row 2, you notice they're all good FUN games not dragged down by other elements or by wanting to be a film (Silent Hill 2 is an exception because while it's fun it's not on the same childish level of complete silliness as in some of the other titles)
Why wouldn't he be? Being a critic sorta makes him required to rant about the bad things in a game. Several times he'll say that despite his critcism he still enjoyed or had great fun with a game.
But no game is without it's flaw, it's just about getting past them, i suppose.
And another thing... he seems to be a fan of the old school of game making so maybe some of the new features placed in games just takes away what he originally liked about them.
All speculations of course, since that's just my impression.
But no game is without it's flaw, it's just about getting past them, i suppose.
And another thing... he seems to be a fan of the old school of game making so maybe some of the new features placed in games just takes away what he originally liked about them.
All speculations of course, since that's just my impression.
Why bother giving Yahtzee any attention? He's obviously nred-baiting, the same way that lady who publicly humiliated that world-champion MtG player did, then wrote an article about it.
As one of these people who scans down reviews (of products, movies, games... whatever) to read the bad ones, I can attest that bad points tend to be more interesting to read or hear about, true or not, and I think Yahtzee feels the same.
Yeah there is a thread of truth to his points - if the game improved the points he talks about, he'd like it more - but it's not to say the game is terrible because of said flaws, or has no redeeming features.
Even with my favourite games, I could prolly come up with a couple of ways of improving it, for me... think the same pretty much goes for Yahtzee
Yeah there is a thread of truth to his points - if the game improved the points he talks about, he'd like it more - but it's not to say the game is terrible because of said flaws, or has no redeeming features.
Even with my favourite games, I could prolly come up with a couple of ways of improving it, for me... think the same pretty much goes for Yahtzee
He flings shit where shit flinging is called for
And he does it with a good humorous way to it
Either give him the ha-ha he craves for or gtfo I'd say (remembering : Each to his own in form of taste)
I wonder if his contract/job goals state " Taking the piss" .
I would not be too surprised by that haha.
And he does it with a good humorous way to it
Either give him the ha-ha he craves for or gtfo I'd say (remembering : Each to his own in form of taste)
I wonder if his contract/job goals state " Taking the piss" .
I would not be too surprised by that haha.