Poll: It?s not useless, just obsolete (long)

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ResonanceSD

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XKCD?s ?Cutting edge? (http://xkcd.com/606/) sums it up pretty well. Buy sensible, play sensible, don?t splurge. Before I come across as the world?s most boring computer gamer ever, I?ll defend myself by saying I?ve always admired those pursuers of new technology, those with their GTX580 video cards and their i7s, they must get all the women.

There are, of course, two sides to the upgrade debate. First of all, I?d like to make it clear that I have nothing against people using the newest components for whatever reason. Their commitment and passion for technology is to be lauded, if for no other reason than to not alienate them from the very group they seek to impress by telling all of us that they own the most powerful computer rig in the world. However, I?d like to make it clear unless you have a serious need, and I mean need, to have a chip that can protein fold, game, render video, boil an egg and edit music all at once whilst reminding you that your personal life isn?t all it could be and that you haven?t washed in two days, you are better off with something less than a 580GTX.

But, I?m on a Dell that I bought years ago. *Single* core Pentium 4, running 2GB of RAM, and, in this fast moving world, a positively antiquated 8400GS (Second Release). I?m running stock cooling, the onboard HDD is 80GB and I haven?t even considered (dared) OCing. To many of you, the system sounds outdated, a museum centrepiece of old hardware. Let?s be honest here, it is, all of the components have been superseded in the market by better versions several times over. But what can it actually do? Well right now, I?m running a PDF reader, Steam, Firefox, Ventrilo and my trusty MS word, I?m also half-watching a TV show on my second monitor. In a few minutes, I?ll probably log onto CS: Source with my friends as we fail miserably yet again take the match by storm. This system got me through Deus Ex, CS1.6, Oblivion and Fallout 3 without a peep, Civilization IV and Sins of a Solar Empire weren?t even blips on the radar. Mass Effect was when it started chopping a bit, but it was still playable. Until an NVIDIA graphics driver problem caused Mass Effect 2 to suffer a CTD at a certain point in the game, even Bioware?s flagship RPG was doable (If anyone knows what happens after you blow up the core of the reaper ship, spoiler alert, feel free to write me a poetic epic). Now however, my system has reached the end of it?s development. Whilst my Steam friends are casually running (to my eyes) recent and cutting edge games such as GTA IV, Dragon Age or whatever lunatic code from CryTek that?s been sold as a game lately, I?m ?stuck?.

Or am I? I?ve had thousands of honestly enjoyable hours gaming, whether it?s in the only MMO I?d admit to playing in such a public space, Guild Wars, or trying to outwit a machine in a game of strategy in Civilization 4, I?m stuck in a nice place. Hell, I?m ?stuck? with a completed copy of Portal 2. It?s like discovering that you?re lost in a really nice place of the world. It?s not like there?s a dearth of good titles that people like me on older systems can run, and I?d go so far as to say that the games I?ve most enjoyed have been low demand games. The original Myst was one, as well as Planescape: Torment and AudioSurf is the most recent title I can think of, but honestly, who would truly seek to have top specs for games such as Crysis and Black Ops over actually having fun? Isn?t that what gaming is all about? Managing to lose yourself in a world where you can have fun? Shiny graphics and processes that require insane levels of power aside, what are we playing for? Feel free to reply in the internet manner, loud, with caps lock and with every apostrophe in the wrong place, but I?d genuinely like to know why you game and what?s more important to you and why you play. If you are someone who?s gone from an obsolete system like mine to a shiny new rig please let me know if there?s a real sense of improvement in your total gaming experience.

However, a small caveat, this article was written about a month ago, since then, I?ve ordered, and am about to take delivery of a new system. A *Shiny* new system. Expect a followup article soon =D.
 

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Up until about 2007 I didn't have a PC that could handle anything more demanding than Deus Ex, and didn't play many games anyway, and then I spent 2 years or so in MMOs, so the big backlog I had/have ensured I wasn't too bothered about whether or not my system could handle the latest titles.

However at the end of last year I had some spare cash and bought a better machine. It felt good to be able to load up Crysis and set everything to high. Now, I thought, now I am truly a member of the PC Gaming Master Race.

I don't think I'll be upgrading again though until the next gen of consoles comes around, because realistically that's when PC games are going to make their next big leap in hardware requirements - it's just not economically viable anymore to make PC exclusive monsters like DOOM 3 was back in the day, or the aforementioned Crysis.

I still play a lot of older games (still catching up) but it's nice to know that I can play just about anything that's been released, or is likely to be released in the immediate future.
 

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I'm in a somewhat similar situation at the moment. My system is definitely newer than yours, but it's a laptop, which comes with its own problems. Now I've always had a love for low tech games like Liberal Crime Squad and Dwarf Fortress as the newer examples, but I tend to play things that require some power too.
What I hate with a steaming passion is games that are essentially low-tech, but require some plugin or service that is incompatible with my built-in graphics card. Atom Zombie Smasher, I'm looking at you!
 

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Thanks for the replies guys!

In truth, I'm finding a LOT of low tech games a lot of fun.

Except that I suck at Dwarf Fortress >_>
 

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Except that I suck at Dwarf Fortress >_>
Well it'd be weird if you didn't.

My machine is almost as shitty as yours (although I did upgrade to a quad-core recently) but I frankly have had no trouble whatsoever playing pretty much anything I want. I mean, sure, I get a lot of lag sometimes, but, meh I've never needed a beefed up system. Plus, old games are often the best games simply because more old games exist than new games, so there's a higher quantity of good old games than good new games.
 

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Ha, I was just thinking about this earlier.

You see, I recently built a new computer from scratch - my old desktop finally kicked it in; some capacitor on the motherboard got fried - whatever.

So now I have this awesome new desktop (GTX560, thank you very much) with that i7 and 8GB RAM and all the rest of it, and I'm playing every recent game on max graphical settings. And it's awesome! My mind has been blown time and time again, so to speak.

You see, with my old desktop I had kidded myself into thinking that it's gameplay, not graphics, that makes a game fun. (My old desktop could run Dragon Age 2 on lowest settings at about 20 FPS, so it wasn't THAT bad.) And that's true to an extent, sure, but games are undeniably a LOT more fun when you have all this awesome motion blur and HDR and anti-aliasing going on. It really makes a good game great.

So no, I'm not one of those people who forever pursue the newest technology; I'm just someone who has finally upgraded and everything is awesome - for a year or so, and then I'll stick with my desktop until it breaks down like the last one.

BTW - Battlefield > Call of Duty. Just saying.
 

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Extragorey said:
Ha, I was just thinking about this earlier.

You see, I recently built a new computer from scratch - my old desktop finally kicked it in; some capacitor on the motherboard got fried - whatever.

So now I have this awesome new desktop (GTX560, thank you very much) with that i7 and 8GB RAM and all the rest of it, and I'm playing every recent game on max graphical settings. And it's awesome! My mind has been blown time and time again, so to speak.

You see, with my old desktop I had kidded myself into thinking that it's gameplay, not graphics, that makes a game fun. (My old desktop could run Dragon Age 2 on lowest settings at about 20 FPS, so it wasn't THAT bad.) And that's true to an extent, sure, but games are undeniably a LOT more fun when you have all this awesome motion blur and HDR and anti-aliasing going on. It really makes a good game great.

So no, I'm not one of those people who forever pursue the newest technology; I'm just someone who has finally upgraded and everything is awesome - for a year or so, and then I'll stick with my desktop until it breaks down like the last one.

BTW - Battlefield > Call of Duty. Just saying.

Great reply! Thanks so much ^_^

I'm not going to put my specs up here, but yeah it's such a massive increase on my previous system.


Ok screw it, I resisted for a while.

i7 2600K @ 4.5GHz
Palit GTX 580 (SLi in a few weeks)
8GB Corsair Vengeance C8
P67 Sabertooth

and a whole bunch of other stuff.
 

ResonanceSD

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I will be hanging on to this box for a while to come ^_^ it's given me many, many fond memories =D
 

Extragorey

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TypeSD said:
Extragorey said:

Great reply! Thanks so much ^_^

I'm not going to put my specs up here, but yeah it's such a massive increase on my previous system.


Ok screw it, I resisted for a while.

i7 2600K @ 4.5GHz
Palit GTX 580 (SLi in a few weeks)
8GB Corsair Vengeance C8
P67 Sabertooth

and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Very nice, very nice indeed. The only reason I didn't grab a GTX580 (or two) is that it was double the price for seemingly little extra performance. I'm a very economical person. Usually.
And I presume the "other stuff" includes gamers' peripherals? A Razor mouse and keyboard, perhaps? ;)

Anyway, very nice setup. I'm sure you'll have tons of awesome new experiences in all the latest and upcoming games. :D
 

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The Cyborg V7 Keyboard

http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/v7keyboard.htm


and the R.A.T.9 Mouse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3Uno3SLdI


=D
 

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TypeSD said:
I?ll defend myself by saying I?ve always admired those pursuers of new technology, those with their GTX580 video cards and their i7s, they must get all the women.
Terrible joke is terrible.