Poll: It's really time to stop supporting Blizzard

[Shynobee]

I've yet to ever buy a Blizzard product, so, have I been boycotting them this whole time?

 

[astrav1]

Boycott them over this? God, there's so many better things to boycott them over. Go find a real reason.

This is just another reason to do so. If you all want to support Activision and DRM fine. I stopped supporting them after Warcraft 3.

 

[Senaro]

I'm not for boycotting, but it is weird that they can ban you from playing offline as well after you hack the system. I thought all RTS games had cheats already, though. I guess SC2 is the one exception?

 

[JoeBattisti]

I never purchased Blizzard products in the first place.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I boycotted them because supporting them supports Activision. That, and Torchlight 2 is going to be loads better than Diablo 3. With MUCH lower Sys Reqs, too.

 

[Altherix]

There's a lot of better reasons to boycott Blizzard then this.

 

[scw55]

Using cheats in a game is a bad thing.
But if it's single player then it shouldn't matter. It's the person using the cheat that gets damaged by it (by not learning).

It's hypersensative.
Also, if you battlenet account gets hacked and the hacker uses cheats and get you banned, then get an authenticator.

 

[Corohan]

There's in-game cheats that range from god-mode, infinite resources and faster training speeds. Why did this idiot need a trainer? It's his own fucking fault for trying to get achievements this way.

 

[Nmil-ek]

B, b, b, but, I need my Diablo fix. Sorry, I generally play on a PC that isn't even connected to the internet. I'd love to see them try and lock me out of that.

And I'd love to see you try to play Diablo III without activating it first.

OT: I agree I think I'm done with Blizzard. REAL ID, recurring activation, dumping true LAN and multiplayer spawning, seriously a company this suddenly abusive needs to be taken down a few ego pegs.

Give it about ohhh 30 minutes after release it'll have an online crack, fixed exe or ripped iso all at once.

 

[black-magic]

You cheat, you break the agreement, you get banned, simple.

 

[snow]

Jeeze people boycott over just about anything these days... There's so much going on in the world of gaming that really deserves our attention and you're worried about something like this?

 

[mew4ever23]

Read the End-User License agreement and terms of service, and then tell me that this boycott is at all rational in the least. They cheated, Blizzard caught and banned them. End of story.

 

[MetalMonkey74]

Why should you fight against someone because they are making sure that their game experience isn't ruined? If you're a cheater, you probably dont like this news, but if you're a cheater, I don't think you have much say!

Blizzard have my support. They are extremely community concious, and release a product when they think its ready, not when the time is up, in spite of being part of Activision!

 

[Assassin Xaero]

No, I won't join you. I've never liked Blizzard anyway, and since someone else comes along years later and suddenly doesn't like them now, why should I join them?

 

[Antwerp Caveman]

But without Activision-Blizzard, I'd have to play EA's crap... it's just not worth it.

 

[Dora]

Kind of disappointing. I don't play Star Craft, but if it did, it'd probably be single player. I just don't enjoy competitive play that much. And if I'm not playing against anyone, who am I hurting by using a program that only affects my enjoyment and experience? Someone earlier in this thread said cheaters are players without skill... well, maybe, but if I play the game by cheating by myself, I'm still going to get flattened whenever I decide to play multiplayer, so why does what I choose to do on my own bother you as long as I play by the rules when other players are involved?

I guess if not using these programs is in the EULA, then yeah, using them violates it, and as bunk a rule as it might seem to be, it's still their rule. Still sounds like something they might want to reconsider, especially if detection of these programs is automatic and doesn't actually have any influence on multiplayer.

I'm into ethical hedonism. Do what you want, and what makes you happy, as long as you accept the consequences, and as long as you aren't causing others harm. If that means you want to drink yourself into a coma or only eat cheezy poofs or cheat at a single player game, then go nuts. It doesn't hurt me or anyone I care about, so I really don't care what you do.

 

[mrF00bar]

I would like to see someone with a lot of money take them to court for this, banning over a single player cheat is just fucking stupid. I can understand banning over multi-player cheaters but single player? Is it even legal?

 

[Baneat]

Cheating is cheating. Suffer the consequences.

Play by the rules and you have nothing to worry about.

It's like getting a speeding ticket then campaigning to impeach the government.

Retarded.

It's more like purchasing a military test site, with giant FUCK OFF YOU WILL DIE IF YOU TRESPASS signs, clearly marking everything, making it impenetrable, then getting a speeding ticket for driving your jeep however fast you want inside it.

 

[Rogue 9]

Heh, no, this is in no way boycott worthy. Maybe, maybe a teensy bit harsh to perma-ban people that only used cheats in the single player, but really... Ohnoes, a company followed through on banning people that infringed upon the EULA! Le gasp!

Spoiler: And anyway, we all know how well boycotts of games work out...

(apologies if someone else already linked this picture)

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Frankly, I don't care how other people play their single player game. But these trainers can be used to cheat in the online multiplayer, or so I gathered, and that is unacceptable. What makes trainers worth it, anyway? What do they give you that the cheats Blizzard put in the game don't?

Like I've said, it's more than trainers. It's the fact that we cannot toy with our games.

I never played online in the original StarCraft. But this system makes it so easy, and matches you up for the most part against players reasonably close to your own level. If the system was the same as that in the original StarCraft, I'd never go online.

I never had a problem with the old StarCraft playing online.

The achievements are part of the experience. For example, one achievement on the mission "The Dig" is to destroy 50 enemy buildings on what is essentially a defence map. The points I got for managing it are pointless, no pun intended. But the fact that the achievement was there drove me to strive to do just that. I had a lot of fun, and if not for the achievement would never have even tried doing that.

And what was fun about that? Like I've said before, achievements are rarely fun for me. They're there to strive you to do things you normally wouldn't but those things add nothing apart from an arbitrary score.

I view the achievements as part of the experience. I don't get them so I can claim my e-penis is bigger than anyone else's. I get them because I enjoy doing so.

I find that hard to believe. Most of the time achievements involve grinding. Be it buildings, items or units. If you find grinding fun the props to you. Still, that is not enough of a reason to remove freedom from the players.

Yes they are.

Grinding, I don't find fun. Neither do I find doing so for a score.

Don't presume to know anything about me. I have never "flung my digital score" in anyone's face. Not guys I meet on the internet, not my friends, no one. I play games for my own enjoyment. With one or two exceptions, I prefer single player games, like RPGs.

Then why do you need something telling you you've achieved something? Can you not do that by your own? Or is the thrill of discovery not something new? The only reason achievements exists is to show your e-peen to everyone. There's no other reason for it. Unless, that is, you enjoy grinding. Also, you said you enjoy having portrays because they show people you managed to achieve something. It's obviously you WANT people to see you managed to achieve and honestly, that's not my beef with achievements. Like I've said before, I do not agree with sacrificing freedom for achievements. If Blizzard can find a way to keep freedom and also achievements then good for them. Otherwise, I will oppose them.

That, my friend, is nothing more than your opinion. It is not a universal truth. It may be the truth for you, but not for me. The achievements are small things, it is true. There is no real difference beating the game on the hardest difficulty and getting an achievement, compared to doing the same on a game without them. But the achievement is what serves to motivate me. In other games, such as Bayonetta and Resident Evil 4, it is in game items. I prefer that method, but achievements get me motivated as well.

Good for you. Still, sacrificing freedom for achievements is something I cannot agree with.

Anyway, ultimately I do not support banning people who use trainers from the game entirely. I think that a warning should be given for the first offence, along with a wipe of any earned achievements and stats. And repeat offenders should face a punishment no more severe than banning them from the multiplayer, while still giving them access to the single player.

Way to harsh. How about removing the achievements and leaving it at that unless they also cheated in the MP?