Poll: It's really time to stop supporting Blizzard

[Brainpalm]

Blizzard Entertainment. They took 9 years to release one-third of a game and now will take another 18 months+ for the other two-thirds and you are mad about this?!?!?! I would honestly be more upset about having to pay full retail price for one-third of a game and being forced to wait for the expansions which should have been original content in the first place. I mean they only had 9 years to make the game and they didn't even get half of it done... 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!

Cheating isn't wrong as such in single player as after all you are only cheating yourself and it affects no one apart from you. Blizzard should really get down off their high horse and stop trying to control every aspect of their game. People have payed their ~60 dollars or whatever for A THIRD OF A GAME so they should be able to play it how ever they want as long as they don't affect the play experience of others.

 

[Spencer Petersen]

I totally agree with them, it's the damn way it should be.

But besides that, you may as well be saying let's all boycott cigarettes!

And it'd be a great idea, the little fuckers are designed to kill you, everybody knows it, they even advertise it, but everybody who uses'em in the first place is too addicted to say "Screw this!"

Blizzard's already got too many people hooked.

How dare you like a game! It just means your addicted and that the company is satan!

 

[Spencer Petersen]

Blizzard Entertainment. They took 9 years to release one-third of a game and now will take another 18 months+ for the other two-thirds and you are mad about this?!?!?! I would honestly be more upset about having to pay full retail price for one-third of a game and being forced to wait for the expansions which should have been original content in the first place. I mean they only had 9 years to make the game and they didn't even get half of it done... 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!

Cheating isn't wrong as such in single player as after all you are only cheating yourself and it affects no one apart from you. Blizzard should really get down off their high horse and stop trying to control every aspect of their game. People have payed their ~60 dollars or whatever for A THIRD OF A GAME so they should be able to play it how ever they want as long as they don't affect the play experience of others.

You haven't played it have you?

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Since I don't care about cheats or trainers I don't need to worry about this situation. And I'd never boycott Blizz over doing whatever they wish to do with their product, however they wish to market/implement it.

 

[Exort]

Blizzard Entertainment. They took 9 years to release one-third of a game and now will take another 18 months+ for the other two-thirds and you are mad about this?!?!?! I would honestly be more upset about having to pay full retail price for one-third of a game and being forced to wait for the expansions which should have been original content in the first place. I mean they only had 9 years to make the game and they didn't even get half of it done... 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!

Cheating isn't wrong as such in single player as after all you are only cheating yourself and it affects no one apart from you. Blizzard should really get down off their high horse and stop trying to control every aspect of their game. People have payed their ~60 dollars or whatever for A THIRD OF A GAME so they should be able to play it how ever they want as long as they don't affect the play experience of others.

The problem Blizzard had is people using third party cheat to hack online achievement, that is what got them banned. Look there is even build in cheat code. About a third of the game, it worth it since it is bigger then most "full game" so whats to complain about? Just play the single player, a lot of critic said there are "insane production value" put in it.

 

[frago roc]

Get off your soapbox, hacking your game to allow you to unlock multiplayer acheivements and portraits circumvents the prestigue blizz is trying to make with them. If you want to cheat use the built in ones, if you want to hack the game you can burn in hell.

 

[Brainpalm]

Blizzard Entertainment. They took 9 years to release one-third of a game and now will take another 18 months+ for the other two-thirds and you are mad about this?!?!?! I would honestly be more upset about having to pay full retail price for one-third of a game and being forced to wait for the expansions which should have been original content in the first place. I mean they only had 9 years to make the game and they didn't even get half of it done... 9 YEARS!!!!!!!!

Cheating isn't wrong as such in single player as after all you are only cheating yourself and it affects no one apart from you. Blizzard should really get down off their high horse and stop trying to control every aspect of their game. People have payed their ~60 dollars or whatever for A THIRD OF A GAME so they should be able to play it how ever they want as long as they don't affect the play experience of others.

You haven't played it have you?

I have played it a bit though I haven't bought the game. I know it does offer a full game experience but for some like me, not having a single player campaign for all factions/races kills the experience somewhat.

 

[baka52]

i admit that bizz has done some stupid stuff over the year but i think thats more attributed to bobby kotick running it and not blizzard itself

 

[Exort]

Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?

Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.

 

[Blind Sight]

Trainer use? Yeah, I can see how they'd take that as cheating. If they were banning because of the cheats they threw in I'd see that as unfair, but I'm guessing that the trainer doesn't deactivate achievements like their cheats do. So I understand where they're coming from.

Honestly, they made a great game with one of the best concepts of storytelling in an RTS, I'm not going to start boycotting just because some cheaters expect to be able to do whatever they want.

I'm in the 'it's just a game, get over it' crowd.

 

[deadxero]

http://www.cheathappens.com/article_blizzardbans.asp
I'm sure you all have seen this by now but for those of you who haven't get a look at what those bastards are trying to get away with now. I'm calling for an escapist wide boycott on everything Blizzard.

Now, WHO'S WITH ME!!!

I don't cheat. I don't even play Blizzards games anymore. This is about trying to preserve people single player freedoms. If we let them get away with this they'll just want more and more.

By agreeing to the ELUA, which you have to before playing any game, you agree to play within the limits given. Just because you play single player, it doesn't give the right to crack/hack/abuse their software.

And as far as them wanting more and more... what the fuck are you talking about? All they're doing is trying to ensure their product is used as it was designed to be. If there weren't so many morons that get a power trip from cheating, in a game no less, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

[ffs-dontcare]

I'm not sure whether I should post my official opinion on this whole thing in this thread or in this thread [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.238219-Blizzard-Gives-Single-Player-StarCraft-2-Cheaters-a-Time-Out-Opens-Can-of-Worms].

 

[AndyFromMonday]

It's understandable that one might question whether the punishment fits the crime. Ultimately, it's Blizzard's decision. You can question it, but you're unlikely to make them change their minds. I support Blizzard on this, because third-party hacks should not come anywhere near a multiplayer game. SCII is multiplayer at heart. No one cares if you mod a single player game, because it ultimately has no effect on other players.

Exactly. And if no one cares then you shouldn't be banned for doing so.

Except that they do care because SCII is largely multiplayer. Or did you skim over that part?

Yet there is a single player portion in that game, is there not?

 

[Exort]

Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?

Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.

Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.

So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.

 

[Grey_Focks]

Wow, lot of posts....but yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and say "Make me, bitches." I still love Blizzard, and will as long as they continue to make good games. They banned people who hacked their game, and people are defending the hackers....why? Yes, they only hacked the SP, but the fact that they hacked Blizzard's game still gives them the right to punish as they see fit. What's to stop these people from hacking the MP? I'm all for discouraging hacking of all types, and screwing with the business of that site that sells the trainers just makes it even better.

And you know all you guys are gonna forget the "stop supporting Blizzard" crap the second Diablo 3 gets a release date.

Oh, and to everyone calling Starcraft 2 "1/3rd of a game"...
http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/motivator3e2398be14d90c03ccf52677da15c18abf7f4fb9.jpg

 

[T-Bone24]

Why do gamers have such a misplaced sense of entitlement? For Christ's sake, they don't want people cheating their game, I don't care if it's single player or not, get over yourselves.

Gamers come to the defense of greedy game companies more often than they should. Doing what you want with a product you purchased, so long as it hurts no one else, is not a sense of entitlement.

I'm not coming to the defense of a greedy company, I'm taking a stand against what I believe to be a pointless overreaction. You can boycott whatever you like, but I can guarantee that it won't send a message.

 

[FalloutJack]

The thing is, I already bought Starcraft 2, so they have my money already. If it helps, I actually don't like WoW-crack, so I've technically been a boycotter longer than you guys? Kinda?

 

[Exort]

Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?

Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.

Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.

So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.

They are controlling how you play a game, that you purchased, in single player mode. They may support mods but if they say a particular mod is unacceptable, they might ban you for using it and this attitude won't just stay with Blizzard. They purposely designed the game in a way that single player ties in with multiplayer so they could push their DRM even further into your gaming experience. Next game may not even have an offline mode.

Even if you support Blizzard here, would you support other companies doing the same thing?

Yes definely, I support any company that banned people getting achievement through unfair ways, achievement should be a test to skill and that means people can't cheat for them.
The only mods are unacceptable are cheats or ones with censered content (yes, that kind of content).

 

[shintakie10]

Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?

Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.

Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.

So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.

They are controlling how you play a game, that you purchased, in single player mode. They may support mods but if they say a particular mod is unacceptable, they might ban you for using it and this attitude won't just stay with Blizzard. They purposely designed the game in a way that single player ties in with multiplayer so they could push their DRM even further into your gaming experience. Next game may not even have an offline mode.

Even if you support Blizzard here, would you support other companies doing the same thing?

They arent controllin how you play in single player. You can use any trainer you want, any cheat code you want, any mod, crack, and hack you want in single player at any time as long as you arent signed in with your bnet account. Click sign in as guest and you can break the single player as much as you want and Blizzard will not suspend or ban you. The moment you sign in with your bnet account though you put yourself into the multiplayer aspect of the game even if you arent facin other people in the game.

Fact of the matter is, as has been said so many times in this thread, people were breakin the rules, they got slapped for it, end of story.

 

[Exort]

Which is fine but what I said is still true. Alot of people come to the defense of game companies for things they would condemn other companies for. For example, look how many people think that game companies are getting ripped off by used sales but see no problem with used sales in other industries.

The sense of entitlement isn't with gamers.

This few year isn't great for game company, just see how much layoff there has been, For an average AAA console release they need around 1.1 million brand new sale to get back the cost that is not easy, and since when did they say they don't have a problem with other used product? Like news media and google, I definely can see why news media are complaining about.