Poll: Killzone 4 Campaign

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Taham

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I expect this has been done before. Sorry to repeat it, but I can't find a previous one,so I'm going to ask you anyway. For Killzone 4, would you like a Helghast campaign? If so, would it be the main one? Or would you want an optional, one-off mission where you play as them?
 

woodaba

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I dont want killzone 4, period. Plus the helghast would not make compelling protagonists because they are essentially space nazis. No one likes nazis.
 

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I thought Killzone 3 should have been from the Helghast perspective since Killzone 2 showed that the ISA have no claim over the "Good guys" throne in that series. Turns out Guerrilla Games did that by accident, and used Killzone 3 as an effort to rectify that by showing how "evil" the Helghast were supposed to be. So they went from an army of people who were abandoned to a harsh planet into an evil army that creates exploding spiders and plan to nuke Earth for no reason other than to be evil.

What I found to be an interesting dynamic of sympathetic antagonists and powerful, greedy protagonists got replaced by the story they intended, which unfortunately seems to be "evil invaders started a war, kill them."
 

worldruler8

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Truly-A-Lie said:
I thought Killzone 3 should have been from the Helghast perspective since Killzone 2 showed that the ISA have no claim over the "Good guys" throne in that series. Turns out Guerrilla Games did that by accident, and used Killzone 3 as an effort to rectify that by showing how "evil" the Helghast were supposed to be. So they went from an army of people who were abandoned to a harsh planet into an evil army that creates exploding spiders and plan to nuke Earth for no reason other than to be evil.

What I found to be an interesting dynamic of sympathetic antagonists and powerful, greedy protagonists got replaced by the story they intended, which unfortunately seems to be "evil invaders started a war, kill them."
I have to agree. I don't own a ps3, but I played Killzone 2 on my friends. I felt like I was truly in Sev's shoes, and felt the same sense of cynicism against the ISA and the whole war that seemed more and more useless as it dragged on. After what Rico did, I honestly questioned whether it was the good campaign or not. Based on what you've said, it seems this moving, even revealing, campaign design was an unintended fluke. Great job guerilla games...
 

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worldruler8 said:
Truly-A-Lie said:
I thought Killzone 3 should have been from the Helghast perspective since Killzone 2 showed that the ISA have no claim over the "Good guys" throne in that series. Turns out Guerrilla Games did that by accident, and used Killzone 3 as an effort to rectify that by showing how "evil" the Helghast were supposed to be. So they went from an army of people who were abandoned to a harsh planet into an evil army that creates exploding spiders and plan to nuke Earth for no reason other than to be evil.

What I found to be an interesting dynamic of sympathetic antagonists and powerful, greedy protagonists got replaced by the story they intended, which unfortunately seems to be "evil invaders started a war, kill them."
I have to agree. I don't own a ps3, but I played Killzone 2 on my friends. I felt like I was truly in Sev's shoes, and felt the same sense of cynicism against the ISA and the whole war that seemed more and more useless as it dragged on. After what Rico did, I honestly questioned whether it was the good campaign or not. Based on what you've said, it seems this moving, even revealing, campaign design was an unintended fluke. Great job guerilla games...
Same. Honestly if anything I felt more moved towards the Helghan side of the war. They're villains because they're getting back at earth for exiling them on an environmentally hostile planet. Yeah Ummmm I think the Helghasts have some sort of justification to doing so. Honestly the whole Space Nazi thing is being blown out of proportion.

I know they killed prisoners of war and experimented like hell on a few of them, but if I remember correctly in Killzone 3 Sev was being a bit of a dick towards his captors calling their scholar a pussy and that he died crying.....WTF MAN!?! You don't say stuff like that in the middle of a war. That's bad when the Helghasts have more respect than you
 

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woodaba said:
I dont want killzone 4, period. Plus the helghast would not make compelling protagonists because they are essentially space nazis. No one likes nazis.
Yet they're a hell of alot more relate-able than the Humans who basically justify killing them all in the most brutal of fashions because they're the "Good Guys".....You f*cking exiled them to an environmentally hostile planet and you didn't expect this to bite you in the ass in any sort of fashion what so ever!?!?
 

woodaba

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How is that different from anything ever? The good guys almost always just murder the fuck out of th ebad guys and your saying this makes them less relatable than the red eyed neo nazis under the control of Hitler and Stalin? Are you retarded?
 

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woodaba said:
How is that different from anything ever? The good guys almost always just murder the fuck out of th ebad guys and your saying this makes them less relatable than the red eyed neo nazis under the control of Hitler and Stalin? Are you retarded?
His point is that given the info on how the Helghast went to Helghan (they were exiled), their story is more a tragic one. Their comparison to nazis is more the fact that they are in desperate times. And compared to the ISA, they seem to be the lesser of two evils.
 

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woodaba said:
How is that different from anything ever? The good guys almost always just murder the fuck out of th ebad guys and your saying this makes them less relatable than the red eyed neo nazis under the control of Hitler and Stalin? Are you retarded?
Silly Stalin was only on 3 which was preety much a weak attempt to stop people feeling bad for the Helghast. Radec was a typical SS officer sterotype. Visari (its that spelt right) from 1 and 2 wasn't much like Hitler at all. The read the back story; these so called eviler than evil types got dicked on preety hard (just like Geramany after world war one(but turned up to eleven)). You seem to miss the point about how these so called "good guys" not only kill all the oppostion but the way they go about it. Is what Rico did right? Is the dehumanising of the Helghast rigt? No... in the case of the latter they are just troops doing as their told; heck the accents give that away. Their the cockneys following the upper class as it were.