Poll: Ladies, Do you want a manly man, or a sweet guy?

[Korten12]

from my experince in school alot of the girls like the idiot guys instead of the nice smart guys. I hope they enjoy having a husband working at McDonalds becuase I am sure that 30% average in class isnt going to get them into an college like RIT.

The only girls that like smart guys seem to be the wierd ones, now when I say wierd im not talking about geeky (though they are a bit) I mean wierd wierd, like how they act and everything is really strange.

 

[Contextualizer]

Why does everything have to fall into some ridiculous gender role binary?

If the answer is "heteronormative conspiracy" I'm leaving early for lunch.

I'd say it's heteronormative enculturation, but hey, you've already left early for lunch

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Why does everything have to fall into some ridiculous gender role binary?

If the answer is "heteronormative conspiracy" I'm leaving early for lunch.

I'd say it's heteronormative enculturation, but hey, you've already left early for lunch

My thoughts are that these sorts of questions with their binary gender roles aren't asked for genuine interest in answers but as an excuse to trot out the same old 'nice guys never get the girl' song and dance.

Of course, I'm a card carrying cynic.

 

[Contextualizer]

Why does everything have to fall into some ridiculous gender role binary?

If the answer is "heteronormative conspiracy" I'm leaving early for lunch.

I'd say it's heteronormative enculturation, but hey, you've already left early for lunch

My thoughts are that these sorts of questions with their binary gender roles aren't asked for genuine interest in answers but as an excuse to trot out the same old 'nice guys never get the girl' song and dance.

Of course, I'm a card carrying cynic.

Oh gosh yeah, that particular cliche never seems to be in short supply in forums of predominantly nerdy guys. It's nice to know I'm not alone in thinking this way

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

My thoughts are that these sorts of questions with their binary gender roles aren't asked for genuine interest in answers but as an excuse to trot out the same old 'nice guys never get the girl' song and dance.

Of course, I'm a card carrying cynic.

Oh gosh yeah, that particular cliche never seems to be in short supply in forums of predominantly nerdy guys. It's nice to know I'm not alone in thinking this way

It also seems to me that the 'nice guy' song and dance is used all too often to portray women as manipulative, deceitful whores and that's the only possible reason as to why someone can't get their end away.

 

[C_sector]

I've come to the conclusion that women have no clue what they want.

:D

 

[Contextualizer]

It also seems to me that the 'nice guy' song and dance is used all too often to portray women as manipulative, deceitful whores and that's the only possible reason as to why someone can't get their end away.

You're preaching to the choir; it's funny how supposedly nice guys become so vindictive and bitter when women don't want to do what these supposedly nice guys want them to do.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

It also seems to me that the 'nice guy' song and dance is used all too often to portray women as manipulative, deceitful whores and that's the only possible reason as to why someone can't get their end away.

You're preaching to the choir;

Someone's been turning my pulpit around again. Fuckers.

it's funny how supposedly nice guys become so vindictive and bitter when women don't want to do what these supposedly nice guys want them to do.

They do seem to use a quite flexible definition of 'nice'.

 

[Smagmuck_]

In one of my classes there are both extremes. The Nice Guy (me) who's compasionate and caring and The Deuche Bag who only wants one thing. Oddly enough I have more female friends then him. Wierd. >.>

 

[lilmoomoo]

In the end the males who can be "manly" and "sweet" at the right times with the right intensity are the most successful.

Sounds like the perfect BBQ sauce.

 

[SerpentStare]

The sweet guy, no contest. A little fire and dominance is nice, but if I can't have both, I'd rather lead and be seductive with a boy who'll blush and murmur than have to put up with a "manly man" and his macho bullshit. Personally, I don't even like over-defined muscles. They look plastic. Strength and witty confidence are nice. Caring and understanding are much better. All of the above is pure fucking win.

Recently met a guy who asks what I'm thinking every time I giggle, isn't afraid to admit when he gets nervous in bed... and both cooked for me, and later pushed me up against a wall to kiss me hard, on our second date. This totally rocks. ^.^

SS

PS:

I've come to the conclusion that women have no clue what they want.

:D

So. Damn. True.

A lot of guys say they like me because I'm "a woman who knows what she wants". I usually give them a funny look, but then I have to remind myself they are probably comparing me to the majority of girls my age (20 or 20ish). I have a strong suspicion most of them just chase after whatever catchphrases seemed to work for the happy ending in their favorite chick flicks... (and hey, let's be fair, those lines are nice... but if they aren't sincere, you're just giving a complete jerk a free redeemable pass to stomp on you)

I am a woman who has some idea what she wants, and has learned from experience and observation some of the things she doesn't (liars, drinkers since I don't drink, people who only appreciate my body, people who can't type "you" with three letters, people who don't understand that the SAME PERSON can be both a sensitive, shy girl and occasionally come out as a bit of a slut from time to time, etc). In fact, maybe I do know what I want. A geeky gamer who will respect my sensitivities and support me in succeeding in the ways I wish to succeed without pressuring me to succeed in the ways I don't on one hand, and who will want and crave and try to have me, to enjoy me, and to satisfy me as a sexy woman, on the other. I also love and want occasional theatrical displays of affection.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure most women don't have that clear an idea, huh? Oh, well. ^.^

 

[Samurai Goomba]

The problem as I see it is the blanket term "nice guy" has come to represent:

-Socially inept males who cannot get dates or form relationships because they haven't yet learned how to interact with women (hint: it's pretty similar to the way you interact with anyone else.)

-Passive-aggressive "nice guys" who chase women they suspect they can't get (women who fairly obviously aren't into them) and then blast the girl while hiding under this "nice guy" label when things don't work out. These nice guys are practically pathological liars, usually putting on airs and trying to deceive both the women (by deceitfully forming friendships with the sole aim of sex/a relationship) and themselves (by assuming a fatalistic attitude about their inability to make things work romantically with a woman-this idea that all women everywhere are conspiring to avoid all nice men in favor of jerks).

-Genuine nice guys who, for whatever reason, haven't yet found a girl who appreciates them. Maybe they're shy (could be) or don't meet a lot of women who share their interests. Point is, the first group and last group of males can kind of be considered the "proper" nice guys, but it's this second group that has given a bad name to all "nice guys."

'Course, this is all just my own suppositions and opinions. I'm not the love doctor or anything, but sometimes guys who characterize themselves as nice guys are pretty bitter, poisonous and cynical.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Why do you think James Bond gets laid so much?

Because his girlfriends generally have names like "Pussy Galore" or "Honey Rider" or something.

Anyway, what about manly men who are sweet?

Come and get it! ladies.