Poll: Last Video game you played that required skill

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Mr. Omega

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Well, there's the obvious answer that "all games require skill", so I'm gonna take this chance to poke fun at certain groups whose bitching I'm getting sick of:

CoD Fanbase:
"Black Ops! So many people using perks like Ghost and Second Chance and campers, it takes real skill to not do any of those and win!"

Fighting game fans:
"Street Fighter 2. Fighting games have been so dumbed down now that their just skill-less button mashers. You can make a few basic movements and can pull out combos and win."

PC Gamers:
"Anything on a PC because as we all know, nothing on consoles require skill because it's all dumbed down for the idiots who play them, and EVERYTHING on PC requires skill, because it's on PC."

A 5 year-old:
"Kirby's Epic Yarn. I keep losing all my beads!"

Retro Gamers:
"Contra. Gaming is just so hand-holding and simplified these days."
 

Ultraman950

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If we're including Flash games, then the last I played was Super Mario Crossover. Simon's a bit tricky.

If not... the hardest was probably Bayonetta. Most recent was Fallout: New Vegas. Sniping's a bit tough with the scope sway, and the only thing that's kept me alive during the Macross Missile Massacre that several missile mooks can launch was my power armor.

Yeah, I'd say games still need skill, just usually different kinds. An FPS veteran might have trouble with, say, Devil May Cry, for example.
 

KingofallCosmos

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Dulcinea said:
Every video game requires a skill.
I give you Noby Noby Boy.

Last game that I had to really concentrate on was Vanquish I guess. Before that Bayonetta so no, there's not a lot of skill involved in most new games. Not that it really matters, these games are meant like that. A lot of games concentrate more on a broad experience with emphasis on story and setting, while other (casual) games are meant for relaxation.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
PC Gamers:
"Anything on a PC because as we all know, nothing on consoles require skill because it's all dumbed down for the idiots who play them, and EVERYTHING on PC requires skill, because it's on PC."
Console Gamers:
Omgz i r teh console gamer, i r 19 year old (actauly 12, olol). [Insert excessive swearing and verbal abuse of females]

Generalisations, woooooh!

OP: As some have said, the majority of if not all games do require some sort of skill, but I'm going to change the wording from games requiring skill to games requiring a lot of skill/being hard.

Yes, there are still plenty of games in which it takes some time and effort to be good, such as Mount and Blade and.. uh.. other games..
 

GrimHeaper

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Final fantasy Dissidea 012
That game takes a certain amount of skill all right.
You basically have to fight a computer that cheats.
 

WaderiAAA

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Every game require skill. Even though you can't die in Kirby's Epic Yarn, you still can't complete it without some skill.

Last game I played that demanded a lot of skill was Geometry Wars Galaxies, which I played earlier today.
 

Mikeyfell

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krazykidd said:
Most video games nowadays require little or even no skill ( or so it seems ). So my question today is: What is the last video game you played that required any for of skill to play ?


EDIT: people are saying all games require skill, one that required 0 skill whatsoever off the top of my head is Kirby epic Yarn. You cannot die, thus as long as you have working fingers you will be able to complete the game, it will take longer if one has a mental deficiency , granted, but one will eventually finish it. imsure theres other examples of extremely easy or games that dont require skill but i just cant think of any atm.
A thing lost of people forget is that holding a controller is a skill.

Navigating a 2D or 3D space are also skills.

Most people who've been playing games for ever have those skills down to muscle memory but they never stopped being skills.

If you mean the last game you played that made you use a unique skill set probably Rock Band 3's Pro keyboard mode.

Puzzle games like Limbo make you think outside the box in order to finish some of the levels. that's a skill I wish more games would push.
 

Meatspinner

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Minesweeper (I'm serious). Other than that I play League of Legends. Most MP games always provide a good challenge
 

HerbertTheHamster

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y'know, I'm looking through my game directory and I can't find a single game released after 2002 which I found actually challenging.

demon's souls was quite hard. last hard pc game I played was Deus ex on realistic, but that's only because I didn't know what skills to pick and where all the stuff was.
 

Skoosh

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Just look at the old controllers and compare them to modern controllers. We went from a couple buttons and a D-pad to two sticks, D-pad, and about four times the buttons. You can teach an old man how to play old NES games in a minute. Ever tried teaching your grandparents (or someone that's never played videogames before) how to move in first person? It takes 30 minutes before they finally just give up or move awkwardly. That's not even playing the game! Just basic controls takes forever.

The brutal old-school games of the past only had the challenge of lightning-fast reflexes, and even then they didn't all do this. We have so many different types of difficulty now, it's hard to even compare. The complexity of games has increased, the skill needed to win has increased. A lot of genres have plateaued though, and our old knowledge of common controls and strategies roll over so they don't seem as hard. The games aren't all easier; the players are better.

I'll admit, there are a few games that are easier to get into, but those are usually aimed towards younger kids, casual gamers, or have bonus content with challenge. It has more to do with the sheer amount of games we release now, of course some will be easy.

Oh, and the last game I played that required skill? Civilization 5. Trying to beat it on Deity and it's being a *****.
 

GrimHeaper

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GrimHeaper said:
Final fantasy Dissidea 012
That game takes a certain amount of skill all right.
You basically have to fight a computer that cheats.
I'm not kidding at all.
The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard - Par for the course in a fighting game, of course, but the computer-controlled characters can do things that are flat-out impossible for human players to do, like equipping ridiculously rare equipment long before the player can craft it, equipping gear for which they haven't reached the level requirement, knowing attacks at levels lower than the player learns them, and they often equip multiple copies of accessories that the player is only allowed to use one of.

A really basic one: the character with the higher level gets about 100 extra BRV points for each level exceeding. Even assuming Player Characters get that bonus (the start-of-battle screen is conveniently set up in a way that you can't find out), computers are far more likely to have the level edge. (Hell, under certain circumstances, enemies will actually break maximum level.)
Chaos is a SNK Boss, so he does a lot of cheating. Zero-start up attacks let him counter your attacks instantly, his HP attacks require precise timing to avoid properly, he has his own customized set of equipment that have a stat boost dependent on his level, ensuring his stats are as high as can be "fair", and he heals fully during the three-battle match, while players begin the next fight with however much HP they managed to retain in the last fight. If the player loses any of the three battles with Chaos, they have to start the match all over again.
Chaos can only be fought in the smallest stage in the game, which has only a ground floor. Chaos's attacks are some of the largest in the game, with wide areas of effect. His attacks take up so much of the stage that it's nearly impossible to dodge, largely because there's nowhere to dodge to.
Chaos' unique summon Shinryu deserves a mention too. Normally, players can call a summon once per battle. Shinryu can be summoned as many times as Chaos wants to use him, and can choose his effect, because Shinryu mimics the effects of other summons and powers them up. If Chaos really wanted to he could summon Shinryu three times in a row, activating an effect to cut your Brave in half every two seconds, doubling his own Brave instantly, and then lock his Brave so your attacks can't damage him.
The battle with Chaos is a bit easier in Duodecim: if you die on the second or third phase of the battle you start over from that phase, and you can have up to five characters in your party so if one dies you can continue with the next and Chaos will retain whatever HP damage the defeated character did to him.
There is one occurrence of "justified" cheating, if that makes sense. The Laguna ghost the player fights is a Squall in the Level 20 range, equipped with Level 20 armor, but a level 94 weapon. This is justified because the weapon is a Machine Gun, Laguna's signature weapon in Final Fantasy VIII. Its still technically cheating, but there's an actual reason in this case.
In Dissidia 012, special Emblems on the boards trigger certain effects in battle, like increasing your Bravery, making Boosters stronger, increasing the critical hit rate of certain attacks, and so forth. In the "Confessions of the Creator" storyline, enemies are often positioned in such a way to force you on an Emblem with a detrimental effect, like disabling your equipment, starting you with no Bravery, and making physical or magical attacks do no damage. This is in addition to the other cheating described above - these mentioned enemies that you must face with no equipment will be over level 100 with top-grade equipment and accessories. Oh, and with most of the Emblems, at least the detrimental one, only you suffer these drawbacks - should the enemy be positioned on an Emblem, it won't take effect on them.
Well, you could use a skill chain to avoid standing on them. Although you might be standing on a different bad one, so it's bad for you either way.
and on top of all that the computer can reach level 150 and you can only reach 100.
 

kouriichi

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I have to say League of Legends.
Proper micro, item usage, and skill choices as well as rune'ing and masteries makes it a tad bit more complex from the beginning then most games.

Throw that in with the wall of different champion choices, each of which playing completely differently, and you have a rather skillful game. Ive seen people pick champions i consider the easiest and completely fail at the game.
 

Ashcrexl

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i have been playing nothing but hard games recently and so yes, i would say most games require skill.

freaking littlebigplanet, the most family friendly game ever becomes brutally hard during the collector levels. like, nearly NES hard at points. if it werent for the checkpoint system, i would have given up entirely, but even with a few lives, it still kicks my ass.

resistance is just unfair sometimes. seriously.

far cry 2 is just as unfair as resistance, unless you play smart and careful.

demon's souls. fuck this game.
 

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UT99, UT2003, UT2004, Quake 1, Quake 2, Quake 3 Arena & Team Arena and Quake Live. I'd also mention Warsow.
 

Your once and future Fanboy

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The Witcher 2 is the most recent one, but lately also: Vampire: the masquerade - bloodlines, Magic the gathering, Mortal Kombat and Alpha Protocol.

The Witcher 2 is the most difficult of the games I've played this year, and its also brilliant!
if you think that games doesn't require skill anymore, then try the Witcher 2 on hard or insanity mode, hell you can try it on normal and you'll get a good challenge!
 

StriderShinryu

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I'd say most games require some level of skill.. it's just definitely more evident in some than in others. I recently picked up a PSP with a copy of Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max though, so that's probably my most recently played game that demands skill to play. If you want a genre that demands skill you really can't go wrong with fighting games.