Poll: Mass Effect 2 paramor choices

[Admiral Stukov]

Garrus. I've done several playthroughs and I always end up with Garrus, intentional or not.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I played Mass Effect 2 more than a couple of times with male Shepard and I chose every option I could. But I kinda liked Jack the most cause she's a damaged crazy girl. She has character. Miranda is a boring bimbo, Tali was always boring with that helmet and she's kinda annoying, whiny. I really don't understand why most Mass Effect fans like Tali. And sticking with ME1 romance option didn't seem like something my Shepard would do. So I'm importing my Jack romance playthrough in ME3 probably.

Too bad Kasumi is not a romance choice. If she was I'd have chosen her every time.

 

[EinTheCorgi]

In ME1 I tried sooo hard to get with tali but she wasn't into shep at the time so i went with liara. Then in ME2 tali was interested so i got with her but then I bought the new shadow broker dlc and liaras interesting again even if her and shep argue like on old married couple over the ENTIRE FREAKING DLC! So im a little stuck...I would like shep to be loyal and blah blah blah but tali just reminds me a lot of my girlfriend so I'm very...confused.

 

[Hader]

Over multiple playthroughs I looked at all the possible relationship choices. I think most are fairly interesting, save a few (Miranda and Jacob being very bland and way too easy and straightforward). IT was nice to see a little more thought put into the relationship dynamics. However as far as a serious playthrough goes, I will have no romanced characters. IT all seems too weird and stupid for the way my original Shepard plays, so he kinda just says no to everyone. The only person who beat him to the punch was Mordin, who 'let him down easy'.

On a side note, I think the relationship I liked the best was one with Liara carried over from ME1 and finished in the Shadow Broker DLC. It had some depth to it, and felt more rewarding in the end for having continued it rather than a quick scene you get before the Omega 4 relay. Shepard and Liara is a relationship that feels like it has plenty more going for it. I guess that is due in part to the fact its the only real continuable romance from ME1 at this point (you can remain loyal with Ashley/Kaiden but nothing else is built upon in ME2 with them).

 

[Omikron009]

Tali, of course. I can't fathom why you'd choose anybody else.

For me it's the other way around. I can't fathom how so many people can overlook Tali's obvious prejudice, considering how extreme it is. I mean I can see why she would be apealing, but her race relations with the Geth ruin her for me.

Seeing as the Geth forced her species from their homeworld and killed millions, perhaps billions of them, it's understandable that she'd have some prejudice towards them. Also, you can see that she's able to look past it when it's in the team's best interests.

 

[Yureina]

Went with Thane in my second game. I'd go for Tali if I ever made a male character, but... that probably isn't going to happen.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Tali, of course. I can't fathom why you'd choose anybody else.

For me it's the other way around. I can't fathom how so many people can overlook Tali's obvious prejudice, considering how extreme it is. I mean I can see why she would be apealing, but her race relations with the Geth ruin her for me.

Seeing as the Geth forced her species from their homeworld and killed millions, perhaps billions of them, it's understandable that she'd have some prejudice towards them. Also, you can see that she's able to look past it when it's in the team's best interests.

It's understandable, but still not excusable. Just because I can understand why she's prejudiced doesn't make it any less awkward and uncomfortable. It's just not something I can overlook, as so many other people seem to be capable of doing for some reason.

She just wanted to get the Geth off of the Quarian homeworld...

And? She was going to use genocide to do so. Her father was developing weapons designed to take down the entire Geth network. Besides, you act like there's nothing wrong about kicking the Geth off the homeworld when they have just as much entitlement to it as the Quarians.

1000 times Miranda, she has the most interesting...personality... I also liked the fact she is human and most likely will not die if I touch her. Liara is nice, but the inter-species part bugs me a bit, and jack is very unstable.

You know what really bugs me about jack? That it seems like the only way to make her more stable is to get into a relationship to her. When you don't romance her, she just spends the rest of the game telling you to fuck off.

If I could, that crazy biotic Justicar asari as well!

Well, you sort of can. It's really the only "relationship" that I can tolerate, though I don't choose to pursue it.

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

Tali, of course. I can't fathom why you'd choose anybody else.

For me it's the other way around. I can't fathom how so many people can overlook Tali's obvious prejudice, considering how extreme it is. I mean I can see why she would be apealing, but her race relations with the Geth ruin her for me.

Seeing as the Geth forced her species from their homeworld and killed millions, perhaps billions of them, it's understandable that she'd have some prejudice towards them. Also, you can see that she's able to look past it when it's in the team's best interests.

That's sort of the same boat as Ashley though, and people use that against her. Her grandfather was completely stripped of notable rank because he wanted to save his men against an invading Turian fleet. They tried to hold out, but the Turians were killing civilians and they were running out of supplies. Growing up in a military family, you don't shake things like that off. Her "Xenophobia" was understandable yet people still call her an anti-alien *****.

 

[LogicNProportion]

I like Miranda's wide eyed innocence from the first game (although she went a little dark for 2). Still, she's the best match for my paragon Sheperd to remain eternally devoted to.

Really evil Shepard cheated on Ashley with Jack, nhe's a jerk though so it never suprised me.

I've actually made enough character variations with slightly different choices from the first game to this one to have pretty much all possible relationship scenarios covered, from a grieving Sheperd who lost Ashley and almost sleeps with Tali then backs out because he's not ready to a shocking variety of potential love triangles between various characters. Even had a former lesbian Sheperd get "converted" by Garrus!

Wait...wut?

Miranda wasn't in the first...

My Shepards get no one, unless I'm going for achievements.

He's a "The mission comes first." kind of guy.

 

[Internet Kraken]

And? She was going to use genocide to do so. Her father was developing weapons designed to take down the entire Geth network. Besides, you act like there's nothing wrong about kicking the Geth off the homeworld when they have just as much entitlement to it as the Quarians.

I'm fairly said she doesn't care how.Plus, the quarians view Geth as emotionless machines, which they were meant to be. I don't support geth genocide, but I don't support geth either. Plus, the geth were equally willing to commit genocide, and they don't even use the bloody planets. They live on space stations.

But just because they were meant to be emotionless machines doesn't change the fact that they have become something else, and have to be viewed as such. Thinking of them as nothing more than machines is exactly why the war started and why it continues. Also the Geth do not support genocide, as evidence by them not wiping the Quarians out entirely or pursuing the conflict any further than the conquered Quarian systems.

I just find it odd that so many people can get past her racism, especially when I've heard so many people ***** about Ashley being racist. Ashley is an alien lover when compared to Tali.

Wait...wut?

Miranda wasn't in the first...

I'm guessing he meant to say Liara based on the description. Still, odd that you would mix those two characters up when they have very little in common.

 

[RobCoxxy]

Tali, she was interesting, she had an almost adorable little crush on you and all.

Oh, and in Lair of the Shadow Broker, Liara says she knows Tali has a thing for you and "Hopes you'll be happy together" - which is a blessing I guess, seing as I bonked her in ME1.

 

[jamradar]

Tali was the only true romance.

>.>
<.<

 

[Vrex360]

But just because they were meant to be emotionless machines doesn't change the fact that they have become something else, and have to be viewed as such. Thinking of them as nothing more than machines is exactly why the war started and why it continues. Also the Geth do not support genocide, as evidence by them not wiping the Quarians out entirely or pursuing the conflict any further than the conquered Quarian systems.

I just find it odd that so many people can get past her racism, especially when I've heard so many people ***** about Ashley being racist. Ashley is an alien lover when compared to Tali.

Then again, Ashley is a ***** with no redeeming qualities anyway.

Now now Ninja, I have a lot of respect for you (another person who likes the Sangheili is okay by me) but still, I feel I must point out a few things:
While she might be tough and aggressive, I would never call Ashley a '*****'.

She demonstrates herself to be a loving daughter, protective older sister and a determined leader in the right situations. She's also demonstrated signs of compassion, take for instance meeting Samesh Bahtia on the Citadel (the mission involving recovering his dead wife who died on Eden Prime), Ashley takes the time to comfort him and tell him how much his wife loved him. Similarly although she has been nasty to Liara from time to time, after Benezia dies she does hint to Shepard that he should probably go and talk to Liara because losing her mother 'has to hurt'.
It might not justify everything but if she truly didn't care about Liara she wouldn't have made that suggestion.

Ashley, however is against ALL non-humans, primarily because... Well, they aren't human.

Actually the main reason Ashley has any distrust against aliens isn't based on irrational fear or even racial hate. The main reason she has trust issues in the first place is because of how her grandfather was the first human ever to surrender to an alien race, and that in turn has blacklisted her family name and her career her whole life. That's the reason why she distrusts them.

That said, she isn't 'against' aliens. She just argues that they shouldn't be relied on to stay as allies, she says that humanity shouldn't turn them down as allies but at the same time shouldn't bet everything on them staying allies. She argues that the Council races will always think of their own people above the security of humanity and that therefore, humanity shouldn't hold out hope that they'll come and save them in the end.
Seriously though. That's as far as it actually goes, it's hardly outright hatred. It's more just caution, and caution with justification. Especially considering how little the Council help the team out over the course of the story.

That said, on Virmire Ashley happily volunteers to assist the Salarian team and takes orders from Kirrahe with no issue, working well with a team composed entirely of aliens and not only doesn't complain, she's happy to do it.
She also at one point (elevator conversation) says to Tali that humans are angry at the Quarians about the Geth attacking Eden Prime and in turn expresses her hope that Tali helping them out with the Saren mission will improve relations between humans and Quarians.

She also at one point clearly says that she doesn't believe humanity is superior, and openly despises the ideas of Terra Firma. Believing them to just be xenophobic jackals and arguing quite often that humans do not have the right to mistreat alien races.

By the way, I apologize if I came across as rude here. Certainly not my intention, least of all when talking to someone I have a fair degree of respect for.

 

[Vrex360]

Le Snip

Yes, I'm sorry.

I truly dislike Ashley, but I don't hate her all that much.

It's just that a certain Indonesian Kratos seems to argue with me every time I talk to him, and I have a fuse the length of nothing, and when I get irritated, I become a horrible little ball of hatred.

It's cool, I understand.

About the irritation thing I mean, not too familiar with the whole Indonesian Kratos.... but still, whatever. I respect your position even if I don't personally agree with it.

 

[Double A]

At first, I thought I didn't want to cheat on Ashley. Then I met her and remembered how big of a ***** she was, so I went with Tali, who is just so much more awesome.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I hit up Miranda...I mean, look at that ass! Plus, I like her voice and general backstory. She knows her mission and will do anything to complete it, but shows some actual emotion towards you.

Can't stand Tali. Jack is just...ugly to me, sorry. Liara was meh, and Ashley...was nothing for me to wait around on. I only play as Male Shep anyways, so that was pretty much it.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Then again, Ashley is a ***** with no redeeming qualities anyway.

Your bias is showing.

But anyway, the geth have simply become emotionless machines that can think.

If you think that's all the Geth are, you need to play the game again and pay more attention to them. Because one of the major revelations brought forward in Mass Effect 2 is that the Geth are not just emotionless machines. Legion shows many example of how they have begun to develop primitive feelings.

And they seem perfectly content with killing the remainder of the quarians should they try to settle their own planet that the geth aren't using.

The reason the Geth attack the Quarians is only because the Quarians keep attacking them. It was stated that "98% of the time, violence between the creators and the geth was instigated by the creators". I don't remember the exact quote, but the point is that the reason they don't get along is because racist Quarians (like Tali) can't get over the past and keep trying to kill the Geth.

Personally, I support peace between the two, and did everything I could to promote it in Mass Effect 2, but I understand if the quarians aren't too happy about having all but roughly the population of Ohio killed off. Ashley, however is against ALL non-humans, primarily because... Well, they aren't human.

Ashley isn't anti-alien in the sense that she wants to kill all aliens. The game never suggests this. She merely thinks that humans shouldn't rely on aliens for support, as she thinks that in the end ultimately each species will choose to help themselves over the others. Considering her backstory, I can understand where she got this belief. Really, that's nothing compared to wanting to wipe out an entire species over a 300 year old conflict that only continues because the majority of Quarians are bunch of backwards racists.

 

[Terminate421]

I boned Miranda and was surprised by the number of people who boned Tali.....

Honestly I feel the need to sleep with a .44 under my pillow now....

Also, I only did her because Ashley decided to start hating on me, even after I said I wasn't working for cerberus, just working with them. There is a difference between the two.

 

[Terminate421]

And they seem perfectly content with killing the remainder of the quarians should they try to settle their own planet that the geth aren't using.

The reason the Geth attack the Quarians is only because the Quarians keep attacking them. It was stated that "98% of the time, violence between the creators and the geth was instigated by the creators". I don't remember the exact quote, but the point is that the reason they don't get along is because racist Quarians (like Tali) can't get over the past and keep trying to kill the Geth.

I would assume in Mass Effect 3, you can use Legion as a sort of "Representative" Bring him before the migrant fleet and allow him to explain that he can willingly move the geth off of the quarian homeworld, in exchange for co-existence.

I was hoping to have that happen. Pro-life is the way I go in Mass Effect.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Tali had the most..um..unexaggerated character flaws. So she seemed more normal...other than being an alien.

And, you know, wanting to commit genocide on an entire species.

That's not what I would call normal.

She just wanted to get the Geth off of the Quarian homeworld...

For my male Shepard, I sided with Tali. I actually like her. Most of the other females are tolerable at best (Ashley and Liara should never speak again, though).

My female Shepard obvioiusly chose Garrus because he is a turian (and therefore sexy) and because he is just fantastic in every way.

maybe she noticed Garrus was lonely we all know what callibrating guns is a euphemism for