Poll: Mass Effect 3 - Ashley got Hot! (Also, see Kaiden)

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thedoclc

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Part of what made Ashley interesting was she looked and spoke like you just might meet "Gunny Williams" at the bar outside base. The way she had her hair tied back and a pretty but not made up face sold her character as a warrior first. She wasn't providing fanservice; she was a badass grunt who had no Y chromosome. She was Mass Effect's Samus, well, pre Other M Samus.

Miranda was designed after a fashion model and was written like a generic Hollywood action girl; obligatory soft side, blahblahblah. It made her seem boring by contrast. For example, hearing Ashley talk about her father and quoting Tennyson was a genuine surprise. Miranda never uttered a single line where I was like, 'Hey, this character is intriguingly written.'

I hope Ashley's fashionista style doesn't accompany a derailment of the character into "Miranda 2.0."

As for Kaiden, I hope they toughened up his character a little. I always felt that for a marine officer, he was Mr. Touchy-Feely-Emotional. We already have woobie characters like Liara, Tali, to an extent Garrus and Thane, etc. Kaiden should come across more like -Lt- Alenko and less like Mr. Lifetime Movie.
 

sage42

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Now she lets her hair down? Didn't seem to cross her mind to do that when I knocked boots with her in ME1. Left her for Tali first chance I got.

Might be awkward when those two meet in ME3.
My thoughts exactly, that being said yes I romanced her the first time round but left her for Tali as soon as I heard everyone's favorite Quarian* was a romance option. Still gonna stay true to Tali even if she's not a teammate.

*I know there are some people out there who don't like Tali. This is just my opinion.

Now for my FemShep I'm glad to see Garrus is still in the running. Inter-species romances for the win.
 

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-Zen- said:
Souplex said:
Wheatley said:
I think Ashley ties Jack for the two most hated LIs.
Miranda is only supported by tose who like boobs and decadence.
Tali's got her own fairly large, weirdly commited fanbase.
Liara kinda fell off the radar for most people after Tali became available.
Everyone wishes Kasumi was an LI but she isnt =P
My vote for Tali as much better than both old racist-***** Ashley and new probably racist-slut Ashley.
Tali supports slavery and genocide of sentient beings.
Ashley supports being careful with other races who probably have their own interests at heart.
How is Ashley the racist ***** in this scenario?
Apparently, Tali being awkward and nerdy totally redeems her of her significant prejudice.

Ashley is an actual strong woman, and as such, most likely intimidates the soft and pudgy portion (i.e. majority) of the nerd population. Oh, and she has a religion. Dat r make er evul and stoopid hurr durr.
I never got how people jumped to such conclusions.
She even mentions how much she hates the Tera Firma. People are just selectively hearing what they want to hear.
 

Evil mr dave

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Something is REALLY off with her face...

(Also, I wasn't aware that the military covered breast augmentation)


Aw who am I kidding, that space eugenics stuff she does is such a turn on ;)
Maybe the Alliance found a way to surgically implant kevlar into female soldiers breasts to afford them greater survivability in combat?
 

AstylahAthrys

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Blegh. I liked her look more in ME1...

I need to not romance anyone in my next run of ME2. KAIDAIN, MY SWEET, I STILL LOVE YOU!

(I know guys seem to dislike Kaidan but I feel like he's really written for girls like me. All but 1 girl I know who's played Mass Effect has loved Kaidan, and that one girl was a lesbian who went for Liara.)
 

Harry Mason

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Where the fuck is Thane!?

*WHAAAARRRGGHHAAAGHGHGRRHGRBLE!!!*

KOKO SHEPARD NEEDS HER FROG BOYFRIEND!!! WAAAHHH!!!
 

ImmortalDrifter

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I've always liked Ashley and this is kind of an improvement, her face is a bit weird but it not too much of a difference. (her long hair changes her appearance more than a lot of people think.) And i don't want to be shallow but i like her new body. People forget that breast size in mass effect 1 was standardized for the base female model. Not every woman on the planet is a b cup. Ashley's new rack isn't that big anyway, she's got nothing on Miranda or Isabela from DA2. So overall i approve. She looks good.
 

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Souplex said:
-Zen- said:
Souplex said:
Wheatley said:
I think Ashley ties Jack for the two most hated LIs.
Miranda is only supported by tose who like boobs and decadence.
Tali's got her own fairly large, weirdly commited fanbase.
Liara kinda fell off the radar for most people after Tali became available.
Everyone wishes Kasumi was an LI but she isnt =P
My vote for Tali as much better than both old racist-***** Ashley and new probably racist-slut Ashley.
Tali supports slavery and genocide of sentient beings.
Ashley supports being careful with other races who probably have their own interests at heart.
How is Ashley the racist ***** in this scenario?
Apparently, Tali being awkward and nerdy totally redeems her of her significant prejudice.

Ashley is an actual strong woman, and as such, most likely intimidates the soft and pudgy portion (i.e. majority) of the nerd population. Oh, and she has a religion. Dat r make er evul and stoopid hurr durr.
I never got how people jumped to such conclusions.
She even mentions how much she hates the Tera Firma. People are just selectively hearing what they want to hear.
I disagree with them, but I can understand why they think that.
I remember it took me 2 goes through Mass Effect 1 to actually get Ash to open up the dialogue tree.
The first few conversations you always get suggest a hint of "racism" (Specism is a more accurate term). They're also pretty bland soldier talk conversations.

If you can get Ash to talk more however, she DOES expand on what she actually thinks, her reasons and actually gets some interesting dialogue.
It was just tricky to get her to open up. At least in my experience. That kinda made her more interesting then Liara in some ways.
 

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Yeeaaahnnnnaaaahhhhh.....

Sorry, I preferred the Tomboy racist to generic space-slut no.278.

Kinda glad Alenko is back though, he was underdeveloped in the first game, so it would be nice to see where Bioware takes him.
 

mjc0961

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So between Horizon and Shepard's trial, she left the Alliance, got breast implants, and became a prostitute?

...I can't remember what I did back in ME1, but I hope I saved Kaiden. I do not want to look at this new Ashley in any cutscenes. It's not really even what I said above that bothers me; that face doesn't even look like a normal human face. It looks like the Uncanny Valley opened a brothel.

Ah well. They can't screw up Tali and Liara right? I always liked them better anyway. Okay, they can probably screw up Liara, but Tali should be safe. They can't really draw eye shadow and lipstick on a helmet visor, and breast implants for Quarians sounds like a really bad idea considering their immune system problems.

EDIT: Wow, so people think Tali is into genocide, huh? Someone care to tell me when the definitions of self defense and genocide got switched around? Because last time I checked, "I should probably kill these robot bastards that I personally had no hand in creating who took over my home world and also try to kill me or any other quarians wherever we go before they kill me" is self defense, not genocide.

Now don't get me wrong. Legion is cool and so are any of his friends that don't want to put a bullet in Shepard. But if any other geth want to try and put a bullet in Shepard, Tali, or anyone else in the game, fuck 'em. They deserve the ass whooping Shepard will provide.
 

the monopoly guy

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Harry Mason said:
Where the fuck is Thane!?

*WHAAAARRRGGHHAAAGHGHGRRHGRBLE!!!*

KOKO SHEPARD NEEDS HER FROG BOYFRIEND!!! WAAAHHH!!!
Methinks he died of Kepral's Syndrome by now. Which is a damned shame, Thane is one of my all time favorites, right up there with Wrex.

I just want to have good 'ol Wrex back in my squad. Having him in ME2 would have made that game 10x better. And yeah, I killed Ashley both times I played through ME1 and I have no regrets. Still don't. I would have killed Miranda if keeping your whole squad alive wasn't such a big deal. I thought she was a boring slab of cardboard that never wiped that goddamn half smile off her smug Ausy face. I liked Jack much better, if only because she showed more emotions than Miranda. God, Ashley just looks like a cheap hooker. No scratch that, someone trying to look like a cheap hooker.

Kaiden looks like a total badass, not that he used to. I remember that by the end of the game he was wearing some pink armor and he still pulled it off.

Also, I hope they changed the "tears" so they no longer looked like dried glue on their face.

Also also who in the fuck is James Sanders? Is he from the latest DLC? If so that would explain why I have no idea who he is.
 

NoNameMcgee

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She looks too different and whats with the massive boobage? I never liked her anyway, I killed her off on Virmire..
 

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lithium.jelly said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Agreed. Liara looked amazing in LotSB. Her redesign was great. Still remained single in 1, though.
I found the white outfit they gave her in LotSB was a really good choice, white suits Liara very well. In ME1 I always put her in white armour because it looked so good against her blue skin.
Strangely, the first thing I thought when I saw her outfit was labcoat. Like, "I'm a scientist and a badass, deal with it *****." But maybe that was just me....

lithium.jelly said:
Nah, they can't possibly fill Miranda's spot with Ashley. She doesn't have any of the abilities that made Miranda so useful. The ability to do both Overload and Warp made Miranda a must-have for every mission for me.
Isn't Miranda technically a Sentinel? So in terms of gameplay, she was actually filling Kaiden's spot. But yeah, she definitely came with me most of the time for the Overload/Warp abilities.
 

mjc0961

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the monopoly guy said:
Also also who in the fuck is James Sanders? Is he from the latest DLC? If so that would explain why I have no idea who he is.
Nope, nothing to do with Arrival. Apparently he's related to one of the characters from the novels.
 

Vern5

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Wtf, she looks worse. She was actually attractive in the first.
I second that emotion. WTF happened to her? She looks like the girls standing at my street corner in clear heels. Actually, and I hate to ruin for all the horny teenagers saying "OMFG SO HAWT!!" but she really looks like a man. That cannot seriously be the redesign.
 

Telumektar

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Exactly this

thedoclc said:
Part of what made Ashley interesting was she looked and spoke like you just might meet "Gunny Williams" at the bar outside base. The way she had her hair tied back and a pretty but not made up face sold her character as a warrior first. She wasn't providing fanservice; she was a badass grunt who had no Y chromosome. She was Mass Effect's Samus, well, pre Other M Samus.

Miranda was designed after a fashion model and was written like a generic Hollywood action girl; obligatory soft side, blahblahblah. It made her seem boring by contrast. For example, hearing Ashley talk about her father and quoting Tennyson was a genuine surprise. Miranda never uttered a single line where I was like, 'Hey, this character is intriguingly written.'

I hope Ashley's fashionista style doesn't accompany a derailment of the character into "Miranda 2.0."

As for Kaiden, I hope they toughened up his character a little. I always felt that for a marine officer, he was Mr. Touchy-Feely-Emotional. We already have woobie characters like Liara, Tali, to an extent Garrus and Thane, etc. Kaiden should come across more like -Lt- Alenko and less like Mr. Lifetime Movie.
I saved Ashley and let Kaidan for dead right for those very reasons, I didn't romance Ashley as I'm not fond of the way he was always contradicting Shepard. So, I saved her just for sheer pragmatism, as both chars aren't particularly friendly (though Ashley is still interesting to hear) I took the darwinian way, survival of the fittest. Even though I considered saving Kaidan to see what could happen I decided he wasn't worth it in comparison to the spartan girl with the attitude. Hope Bioware gives Kaidan some balls and Ashley a little bit of gratitude towards Shepard (She should, knowing that the guy plans to obliterate the most advanced sentient beings in the galaxy in order to save some meatbags).

Also, she looks worse. Why the implants and the giganto-lips? She seems to have some problen with her eyes, they generat that sleepy Paris Hilton expression. Copy Valve/Ubi on this, you know... like in ME1, an spacefaring Alyx Vance/Jade is just perfect.