Poll: Mass Effect 3: Yay or Nay?

[SL33TBL1ND]

I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...

Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?

EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.

Well Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems .

The problem was that by installing Origin you were agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.

 

[Awexsome]

I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...

Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?

EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.

Well Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems .

The problem was that by installing Origin you WERE agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.

That's a big were.

Now they're the same as everything else. For all the talk about how publishers don't listen to their customers they sure don't get much credit for actually doing so.

 

[UnknownGunslinger]

Well if origin is required, i will buy it but gonna download crack for it. Origin is a big nono for me.

Same for me, I cant believe how arrogant EA can be in peddling their ill designed system :/
Releasing their biggest titles (Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3, The Old Republic) exclusively on Origin in an attempt to use those built-in demographics, problem is I don't like being funnelled to an inferior product!
Having an alternative I'll choose the alternative before Origin, at least until EA gets its shit together.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...

Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?

EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.

Well Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems .

The problem was that by installing Origin you WERE agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.

That's a big were.

Now they're the same as everything else. For all the talk about how publishers don't listen to their customers they sure don't get much credit for actually doing so.

That's why I reiterated my opinion to "Don't want any more 3rd party software clogging shit up".

 

[prince_xedar]

im getting it on PS3 so i dont give a shit about origins

 

[Dark Knifer]

I got Mass effect 1 and 2 on xbox... So yay for no origin?

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I was a big fan of the prior 2 games but sadly, I will not be picking up Mass Effect 3. Not unless EA stops being a douchebag.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

I guess the question then becomes how ME3 is offered through Origin. In actuality, most games on Origin right now are MUCH friendlier about being run without being logged in than games on Steam tend to be. You don't need to even bother with putting it in offline mode: don't even bother starting Origin and just run the game.

I suppose there's always the possibility that they have some sort of always-online DRM scheme for ME3 through Origin though. That's a somewhat different issue, though one that I think people tend to get particularly unreasonable about.

May I ask why you don't leave Steam on? In terms of system resources, it's proportionally tiny compared to a modern game, so there isn't really any good performance reason to turn it off (especially not to just put it in offline mode). Are you afraid Steam is reading your emails or something? If you're approaching this level of paranoia, there's absolutely no reason that Steam couldn't mine the information you suspect while in offline mode or disconnected from the internet and simply send that information as soon as you do connect. In fact, if Valve wanted to snoop around on your computer, there's absolutely no reason they couldn't install something a bit more covert alongside Steam that wasn't quite so simple to detect or turn off.

Steam like to auto-update games and such, on paper its a fine idea but I have something of a limited monthly download limit and I don't want Steam chewing all that up.

ME2 at first had always on DRM, in that the DLC required an always on connection. But since you got free day 1 DLC with it... However that was patched out.

Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).

There will be always on DRM just like they did in ME2, but it'll be patched out in a month or so after release.

I wonder if configuring your firewall to block Origin would prevent the (ME2) game from running.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Yes,I will. What Origin does is simply what Steam does,except with no opt-out option. And I'll play ME3 into the ground. I WILL get the Quarians to make nice with the Geth. I WILL get the Krogan and Rachni to work together. I WILL kill the Illusive Man. I WILL kill every single Batarian assfuck in the galaxy!

Actually...I'll try to get them to work with us. If that doesn't work,THEN I'll pull another Arrival on them. Until no Batarians remain. Fucking slavers. I don't care if it's an integral element of your caste society! Live free or die running!

I always liked the saying "Don't run, you'll just die tired."

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).

There will be always on DRM just like they did in ME2, but it'll be patched out in a month or so after release.

I wonder if configuring your firewall to block Origin would prevent the (ME2) game from running.

I mean I wonder if there will be always-on DRM through Origin. If it's just through the game, that's not really a problem (the data involved would be absolutely miniscule). The main problem is Origin auto-patching, so, as long as the DRM isn't through Origin somehow, you should be able to run the game without even opening Origin like you can with all of the games on it right now, handily avoiding your problem.

I'd be somewhat surprised if the DRM were through Origin actually, since it's a multi-platform release.

Edit: From what I'm seeing, the DRM can't be through Origin, since the game will be offered through other services. The only one that looks to be Origin-specific is the Deluxe edition.

 

[luckshot]

maybe...

ill need to do more research on origin and have more news on the quality of me3, so ill probably end up buying it but not in the first month

 

[Pat8u]

Steams just as bad ImHo
My reasoning for this:
when the internet is down steam won't open
Downloadings a pain in the ass
when my internet is slow I can't play any games

 

[putowtin]

I'll be getting in on the xbox anywho so Origin don't affect me

 

[Crazy]

I won't get it because I don't want it. Like a baws.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Really, in my humble gaming opinion, if your using a PC to play anything other than a massive RTS (like the Total War series or *shudder and gag* Starcraft)or an MMO than your wasting your time. PC gaming in general is dead its much better to play on a console. Hell half the time people play PC's with console style controllers so why not cut out the middle man and save yourself a whole lot of time, money, and grief.

Those that have PS3's might slightly disagree but 360 owners know what im talking about.



Also ME3 looks to be one of the best games of this generation, now add to that the fact that it will end different ways depending on how you played ME1 and 2, and you open up a host of replay possibilites for all three games.

Have fun with your stripped down version of Team Fortress 2 then. No hair off my back.

Actually I have Steam on my comp and when TF2 went free to play I downloaded it...I dont see what the big fuss is. Ive played better. Sure the TF model was copied alot but I found Tf boring to shooters of today.

Well that's your opinion not mine.

 

[Behazard]

I really don't like to use yet another program to play ME3, after Impulse and Steam..
But I really want to end the trilogy, so I'm probably need to install it anyway. Going to be mad though if I can't use my old saves!

 

[Legion IV]

Oh for the love of christ.

[HEADING=1]READ THIS! THE EULA CHANGED MONTHS AGO![/HEADING]
[sup]Back in August, in fact. Pay attention.[/sup]

Click here. [http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/battlefield-3/news/6331203/ea-changes-origin-eula]

According to the current agreement, "EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users' machines. We and agents acting on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA's legal rights."

While the wording on collecting information about a user's computer, operating system, software, and software usage remains mostly intact, another clause from the agreement no longer appears. That now-omitted line originally stated, "EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you." In fact, the new EULA makes no mention of marketing at all.

The third section in the EULA, "Application communications and conduct/privacy settings," has also changed considerably. It no longer includes wording that "EA reserves the right to monitor communications on the Application and disclose any information EA deems necessary," nor does it specify that if users don't agree to EA's collection, they shouldn't install the application.

THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM ANY MORE.

This Eula is now no more invasive or threatening than Steam's, or any other programs'.

If it does appear to, then yes I won't be getting it.

Perhaps you should paste all the above information in the OP to ensure that everyone voting is fully informed rather than reacting to outdated sensationalism. Also, fix your poll to remove the bias.

Fr the love of god people READ THIS, the iggnorance here is out standing its like am in a call of duty lobby.

 

[CrazyMedic]

I have the collectors edition pre ordered on amazon I don't care if the drm is the 12 trails Hercules I have 200 hours on ME I am seeing this ending god damn it.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Nope, I am getting the XBox 360 version of ME3, so I have no issues either way. Both my ME and ME2 are console games, as well.

However, Origins has changed it's EULA by now, so everyone can settle down with the rhetoric. Of course, I don't really care too much as I'm getting TOR as a physical copy, so at best I'll just be registering online..