Poll: ME2: Did you trust Cerberus?

[Thedarkestofsouls]

I probably would trust him if he had Morgan Freeman's voice. I might not if he had my mom's face, though. That'd be pretty freaky...

Kinda short sighted mate
Personally I believe in them they are working for the benefit of humanity sure their methods are questionable but show me one intelligence agency on the planet that wouldn't do something like that to ensure humanity's survival?

Except this is complete bullshit.

Cerberus is quite clearly working only for the benefit of Cerberus, and will screw over humanity if Cerberus profits from it. For example, the research facility on Pragia. Now torturing little kids to learn stuff is bad enough, but you also have to remember how most of the kids got their; batarian slavers. Cerberus is supporting the attacks of Batarians on human colonies to get more test subjects. They are quite clearly working against humanity to further their own interests.

So no, I don't trust Cerberus at all. They are quite clearly an evil corporation run by a charismatic bastard.

I'd make the argument that, from a Cerberus perspective, they simply keep a bigger picture view of things. Means to an end, breaking eggs to make omelet, etc. Personally, I do believe that Cerberus has humanity's advancement as their goal. That doesn't mean they consider every human sacred cows that can't be sacrificed for the greater good.

But, like I said, this make no sense. You can't claim to be prohuman if you're going to support direct attacks on human colonies, just because you benefit by association. The key thing is that Cerberus was supporting enemies of humanity by buying slaves from Batarians. No pro-human group would ever do that. That does not advance human interests. That sets them back. This does not contribute to any greater good. All it does is advance a purely Cerberus interest.

People buy all this "Cerberus supports humanity" just because they were trying to save the human colonies. But this was never their goal. If they cared about protecting human colonies, they would never work with Batarians. They just wanted Collector technology. If the Illusive Man stood to benefit from the attacks on human colonies, I bet he would allow them to continue.

First, I would like to point out that the slavers would attack human colonies even if Cerberus didn't buy a few from them for tests. It just means they won't live out their life in a Batarian mining colony, or as some plaything for a twisted Turian outcast, or whatever. In that regard, I do believe they are looking out for the individuals of humanity, as well as its whole.

That said, Cerberus's interests are Cerberus's interests. Humanity is a face they can wear, to draw allies from. I have no doubt the Illusive Man wants one thing... power. He wants power like a thirsty man wants a cool drink. He proved he was powerful by bringing back the hero of humanity like a phoenix from the ashes, why does anyone think he wouldn't use the station to build a turian, or quarian, or even an Asari Reaper? I'm sure the elements of Cerberus that set up the Akuze attack or Pragia would happily take any prisoners they captured, and throw them into a mixing pot of alien destruction. Why? To prove that he, the Illusive Man, can do anything he pleases... because he has power.

That's my view on it, anyway.

 

[Broken Blade]

I never trusted them. They may have brought me back to life, rebuilt my ship, given me a crew, and paid me, but I disagreed with them on the human-centric philosophy. That, and I remembered how many dogs they kicked in the last game. I greatly enjoyed cutting the Illusive Man off at the end of the game.

 

[Rarhnor]

Not for a second. They can scratch the back of my brain all they want, but I'd never trust in them.

 

[godofallu]

I beat ME2 three times now, and I still don't understand why people would dislike Cerberus or the Illusive Man.

They saved your life. They try to save humanity. Give you a new spaceship and give Joker a job.
All they asked in return was that you try to keep the Illusive Man informed.

I mean seriously what did you ever see Cerberus do that was bad? I don't get it.

 

[Internet Kraken]

First, I would like to point out that the slavers would attack human colonies even if Cerberus didn't buy a few from them for tests. It just means they won't live out their life in a Batarian mining colony, or as some plaything for a twisted Turian outcast, or whatever. In that regard, I do believe they are looking out for the individuals of humanity, as well as its whole.

That doesn't make any damn sense. They're still supporting Batarian slavers. You don't do business with your enemy. That is basic common sense. By supporting these Batarians, Cerberus is encouraging them to attack more colonies so they can get more slaves to sell. You can't justify it on the grounds that they will attack the colonies anyways. If Cerberus truly opposed slavers, they would be assaulting them. Or at the very least ignoring them. Seriously, that's the weakest justification for Cerberus I have ever heard.

 

[Baradiel]

I remember when a couple of my mates got ME2, and every time they mentioned Cerberus I'd tell them it was an evil company. I'd never played either of the Mass Effects, and was basing this conclusion on the name.

So, naturally, when I went out and bought both ME1 and ME2, I found out I was right.

However, I also found out, by the beginning of ME2, that I should have at least HEARD of Cerberus in ME1. I hadn't, and the game was straight away expecting me to and hate their guts.

I did anyway, but I was slightly surprised that such z big faction had passed me by. After finishing ME2 I looked Cerberus up, and CHRIST how did I not know about them. Apparently 50% of the side missions revolved around them. They must have been the 50% didn't do.

So, long story short, I didn't trust old Cerby, and mostly told them to fuck off whenever I had the choice.

The Illusive Man is still cool.

 

[Baradiel]

I trust them as much as Third Echelon.

Reed's or Lambert's? Because "if you hadn't noticed, he's DEAD!"

I wouldn't trust Reed's Echelon at all, since it ISN'T Third Echelon anymore. Why the fuck would you make Splinter Cells shock troops?

 

[MadeinHell]

Nope. I don't trust any corporation. Legal or illegal.

Also Illusive man knows WAY too much, and I have doubts about his humanity.
Oh and WHAT THE HELL DID THAT SUN TURNING BLUE AT THE END OF THE GAME MEAN!?!?!? I WANT ANSWERZZZ!

 

[Blindswordmaster]

I trust them as much as Third Echelon.

Reed's or Lambert's? Because "if you hadn't noticed, he's DEAD!"

I wouldn't trust Reed's Echelon at all, since it ISN'T Third Echelon anymore. Why the fuck would you make Splinter Cells shock troops?

Reed's. Cerberus will use and arm Shepard as long as he's useful and goes with the plan. Frankly, I look forward to fighting Cerberus operatives in Mass Effect 3. I also see Edi trying to space him. Thank you for getting my point and cookie for quoting a comment I made 4 months ago. Good job!

 

[Thomas Kasich]

The only people in Cerberus I trust are: Jacob, Miranda, all the Cerberus crew members on board the Normandy AND the ex-Cerberus operatives (excluding Dr. Archer. For what he did to poor David) in Mass Effect 3.

Do I trust the Illusive Man? No way in hell. After completing Horizon, I could see the Illusive Man was trying to find way to screw with Shepard's life. When he revealed he leaked to the entire galaxy that I was alive and working for Cerberus, I knew he was trying to make the Commander's friends in the Alliance believe Shepard betrayed them. If so, he pulled it off.

The Collector Ship, made me gain another new hatred for the man. He proved to Shepard that he can't be trusted, and he defends his actions saying how he trust Shepard would make it out in one piece.

When I choosing the fate of the Collector Base - It was the EASIEST decision I had to make - he was untrustworthy, power-hungry, and wanted to "exterminate" all alien life.

Using what he pulled on Horizon and the Collector Ship - I DESTROYED the Collector Base because I didn't trust him with it. I knew he wasn't going to use the Collector Base to destroy the Reapers - I read that evil smile of his in the Renegade Ending.

 

[Tom_green_day]

Well Cerby was barely in 1, so not much was known about them, and they seemed to be a group that was trying to do good. I thought it was weird at the end of 2 when everyone was suddenly like 'cerberus r evulz'.

 

[Hades]

I loved TIM but i didn't like Cerberus very much. I find Humans about the least interesting race in Mass Effect so a human supremesist group didn't sitt well with me.

 

[Rickin10]

Hmmm... never trusted Cerberus, but sometimes in life you have to make sacrifices,step away from the black and white and into the grey.

Cerberus committed atrocities. But they also did lots of good too, irrespective of their motives. Cerberus only became an option because the supposed 'good guys' like the Alliance and the Council proved to be utterly blind, spineless and pointless. In fact you could argue they both did more 'evil' in the galaxy than Cerberus. As the saying goes, ' All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.'

 

[NightmareExpress]

After the first game, no.
After the first mission of the second game, no.
For the entirety of the third game, no.

 

[Gameguy20100]

I don't trust anyone who makes more money than I do

 

[Requia]

I'm pretty sure you weren't supposed to trust them. It was very much a deal with the devil situation. You also didn't have a hell of a lot of choice other than work with them and sit on your ass.

 

[Mikejames]

I still think it was a shame that any morally gray aspect they had was dropped for the third game. The idea of Cerberus was more interesting when they were the lesser of two evils.