Poll: Mecha, Japanese, European, or North American?

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Soviet Heavy

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Great North said:
When I clicked on this thread I was thinking, "Well lets see how dumb THIS is." But I've found this really pretty interesting. I think the idea points to a difference in Japanese vs American vs European mecha is once of philosophy.

Japanese = style, grace, technique;
European = brute force;
North American = practicality

But I'd say these so called European and North American mecha certainly blur those two concepts. Maybe I should just go with Euro/American = brute force and practicality.

But what do I prefer? There's something undeniably satisfying in my deep psyche about the more stompy mechs of the west...
You can find variations across all of them. Symbionic Titan is part Russian (Thanks to Genndy Tartakovsky), giving Europe an anime styled mecha, while North America has Megas XLR, which is definitely not realistic styled mechs.

Most of the Knightmare Frames from Code Geass are on the Realistic scale of the robot genre as an inverse.
 

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Princess Rose said:
Gotta go with Japanese. Love the fluidity and grace. Asuka's got my back on this one
No way, Rei 4 life



But I agree, while WH40K is absolutely amazing, and Megas XLR was just brilliant, Japanese style mechas are my favourite, if not just for the fact that NGE is my favourite thing ever.

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Princess Rose said:
I think we've achieved my original goal by working together! ^^ The power of friendship!
^5!
 

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Princess Rose said:
Gotta go with Japanese. Love the fluidity and grace. Asuka's got my back on this one:

While I share your views on mech designs, I have to throw my support behind Shinji on this one.
 

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While the Japanese are more sleek and nimble, I do prefer the Euro styled ones since they are more gritty and based more around killing humans/infantry/each other vs the Japanese which just fly around and blast EVERYTHING!

Also...AMERICA HAS MECHA? I thought they just ripped their Mecha ideas off Japan and popular foreign toy markets. XD
 

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THAT IS AWESOME!!! I havnt played war hammer since the mid 90's, I guess allot has changed.
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
While the Japanese are more sleek and nimble, I do prefer the Euro styled ones since they are more gritty and based more around killing humans/infantry/each other vs the Japanese which just fly around and blast EVERYTHING!

Also...AMERICA HAS MECHA? I thought they just ripped their Mecha ideas off Japan and popular foreign toy markets. XD
Dude, America has had Mecha since The Empire Strikes Back.
 

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impeccable said:
THAT IS AWESOME!!! I havnt played war hammer since the mid 90's, I guess allot has changed.
Technically its a Forgeworld model, not usable in a regular game, but in Apocalypse yes. And it will put you back about six hundred dollars for the Warhound.
 

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Grogman said:
No way, Rei 4 life
But I agree, while WH40K is absolutely amazing, and Megas XLR was just brilliant, Japanese style mechas are my favourite, if not just for the fact that NGE is my favourite thing ever.
twistedmic said:
While I share your views on mech designs, I have to throw my support behind Shinji on this one.
^^ Asuka's Unit 02 is my favorite, but I love all the mech designs from Eva.

I tried to find a good group shot, but the only one I found on Google Image was kind of stiff, and I wanted to accentuate the fluidity of the Evas.

You both actually picked great shots of your respective favorites, so I think we've achieved my original goal by working together! ^^ The power of friendship!
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Hero in a half shell said:
Japanese mecha is pretty easy to imagine, but what is the difference between european and North American?!?
Compare stuff like Warjack or 40K titans and they are very different from Mechwarrior of BattleTech designs, which are American.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

oh... you're serious....

FASA got sued early on for taking the mecha designs directly from Macross, which american license was owned by Harmony Gold. FASA was forced to reboot the line, leading to the Clan vs Inner Sphere conflict, because they needed radically different designs that still evoked the old ones out of continuity.

The more you know!
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
impeccable said:
THAT IS AWESOME!!! I havnt played war hammer since the mid 90's, I guess allot has changed.
Technically its a Forgeworld model, not usable in a regular game, but in Apocalypse yes. And it will put you back about six hundred dollars for the Warhound.


Thanks for replying, I hit "rely" opposed to "quote" on accident.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
SteewpidZombie said:
While the Japanese are more sleek and nimble, I do prefer the Euro styled ones since they are more gritty and based more around killing humans/infantry/each other vs the Japanese which just fly around and blast EVERYTHING!

Also...AMERICA HAS MECHA? I thought they just ripped their Mecha ideas off Japan and popular foreign toy markets. XD
Dude, America has had Mecha since The Empire Strikes Back.
I was refering more to the Transformers (Rip off) and stuff like Power Rangers (Another rip off...that actually is INCREDIBLY hard to watch, now that I'm not a kid and I can actually see how quasi-terrible they are XD)

Star Wars was also less Mecha, and more like massive poorly designed Tanks with legs. XD
 

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twistedmic said:
Princess Rose said:
Gotta go with Japanese. Love the fluidity and grace. Asuka's got my back on this one:

While I share your views on mech designs, I have to throw my support behind Shinji on this one.


What is that purple mech from? I bought a model of it at hastings because of its distinguishable badassness.
 

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DracoSuave said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Hero in a half shell said:
Japanese mecha is pretty easy to imagine, but what is the difference between european and North American?!?
Compare stuff like Warjack or 40K titans and they are very different from Mechwarrior of BattleTech designs, which are American.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

oh... you're serious....

FASA got sued early on for taking the mecha designs directly from Macross, which american license was owned by Harmony Gold. FASA was forced to reboot the line, leading to the Clan vs Inner Sphere conflict, because they needed radically different designs that still evoked the old ones out of continuity.

The more you know!
I wasn't comparing to Macross, I was comparing a Warjack or a Titan to something like the Madcat.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Hero in a half shell said:
Japanese mecha is pretty easy to imagine, but what is the difference between european and North American?!?
Compare stuff like Warjack or 40K titans and they are very different from Mechwarrior of BattleTech designs, which are American.

For example, a BattleTech Madcat versus an Ork Stompa
So you would see American mechs as more militarily realistic, blunt and practical. Whereas European mechs would have more flair and sci-fi elements? Also isn't it a bit of a weird designation since the only European mechs in existance are from 40K.

I'd have to go for European, as I'm not a fan of the Japanese Anime style, and the American sheer military style is nice, but if you're gonna have a multi-storey walking behemoth with guns then you've gotta give it a bit of character.
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
Soviet Heavy said:
SteewpidZombie said:
While the Japanese are more sleek and nimble, I do prefer the Euro styled ones since they are more gritty and based more around killing humans/infantry/each other vs the Japanese which just fly around and blast EVERYTHING!

Also...AMERICA HAS MECHA? I thought they just ripped their Mecha ideas off Japan and popular foreign toy markets. XD
Dude, America has had Mecha since The Empire Strikes Back.
I was refering more to the Transformers (Rip off) and stuff like Power Rangers (Another rip off...that actually is INCREDIBLY hard to watch, now that I'm not a kid and I can actually see how quasi-terrible they are XD)

Star Wars was also less Mecha, and more like massive poorly designed Tanks with legs. XD


I could be wrong. But I believe "mech warrior' is american. And that style of mechs is both unique and impressive. also feels a little more modern, and less futuristic.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
DracoSuave said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Hero in a half shell said:
Japanese mecha is pretty easy to imagine, but what is the difference between european and North American?!?
Compare stuff like Warjack or 40K titans and they are very different from Mechwarrior of BattleTech designs, which are American.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

oh... you're serious....

FASA got sued early on for taking the mecha designs directly from Macross, which american license was owned by Harmony Gold. FASA was forced to reboot the line, leading to the Clan vs Inner Sphere conflict, because they needed radically different designs that still evoked the old ones out of continuity.

The more you know!
I wasn't comparing to Macross, I was comparing a Warjack or a Titan to something like the Madcat.
The Mad Cat was a design derived from the Marauder [http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Marauder] which in turn, is a Zentraedi command battlepod [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Zentradi_Mecha.jpg]

When a company gets sued, and loses, for ripping off designs [http://www.alex.kaempen.org/harmony_gold_v._fasa.html], it's a fair comment to say they ripped off their designs.

It shows too, the art quality took a nosedive once they were ordered to turn off their photocopier. Took them years to get half decent again.
 

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BristolBerserker said:
I've got to say I prefer Japanese. Also, why do you say European when Warhammer 40k is British.
Because England is still in Europe, and Games Workshop is not the only company there that makes mech designs.
 

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BristolBerserker said:
I've got to say I prefer Japanese. Also, why do you say European when Warhammer 40k is British.
Britain's a part of North America now?! HOLY CONTINENTAL DRIFT BATMAN