I'd say men, but that's because I'm a guy, and thus understand a guy's logic. However, when I consider it objectively, I still end up at the same conclusion.
Poll: Men Vs. Women : Rationality
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I find that, in my personal experience, men are more logical, and are able to admit our mistakes (grudgingly, mind you, but still). Women, on the other hand, are often rather irrational, prefering to continually stoke an argument untill they are given victory just out of the need for them to SHUT UP! looking from an evolutionary viewpoint, Women, being primarily care-givers to children, tend to be more emotionally driven than Men, who, once again from an evolutionary standpoint, are designed to be the fighters, hunters, ect. need to ignore emotion and look at things from a more colder perspective. this isn't a 100% thing though. there are times when the roles are reversed,(example: angry male) but this is the primary set up.
males and if anything thinks otherwise theyre fucking stupid. women always always act, argue and make accusations based on their emotional feelings. the majority of males argue on what is solid based fact and how or why theyve been wrong, rather than how they feel about something. it has happened time and time again so anyone who tells me otherwise should go check themselfs
id like to hear you say that after being married for 10 yearsKiefer13 said:It's pretty much this:
For all that we claim to be rational, we humans are surprisingly emotional creatures. Some are more logical than others, yes, but I don't think gender has anything to do with it.
Women and Men can be equally irrational. Just look at some of the political systems set up by men - Stalinist Russia, Hitler's Germany, Pol Pot's Cambodia, etc.
That's not to say that women are any more moral than men - Mao's wife was a woman, and she was worse than Mao himself.
Yes, women can be emotional and petty. So can men - I've worked with both, and both are just as bad as each other, ESPECIALLY when it comes to research work in a lab - I can't tell you the number of petty arguments and silly bitter spats that can occur between scientists. You know, "how DARE you use MY Petri Dishes" or "I set the incubator to 72 degrees AND THAT'S WHERE IT STAYS DAMN YOU!" And both men and women have been behind the ludicrous arguments that I've seen.
Look at the conflict between Palestine and Israel - a land spat triggered by religion and racism that has needlessly been dragged out for years and years and years. Both sides have been led by men. I'm not saying women would have done a better job (they wouldn't have), but if you're going to claim that men are more rational than woman, the long, long sordid and insane history of man is going to prove you wrong there buddy.
That's not to say that women are any more moral than men - Mao's wife was a woman, and she was worse than Mao himself.
Yes, women can be emotional and petty. So can men - I've worked with both, and both are just as bad as each other, ESPECIALLY when it comes to research work in a lab - I can't tell you the number of petty arguments and silly bitter spats that can occur between scientists. You know, "how DARE you use MY Petri Dishes" or "I set the incubator to 72 degrees AND THAT'S WHERE IT STAYS DAMN YOU!" And both men and women have been behind the ludicrous arguments that I've seen.
Look at the conflict between Palestine and Israel - a land spat triggered by religion and racism that has needlessly been dragged out for years and years and years. Both sides have been led by men. I'm not saying women would have done a better job (they wouldn't have), but if you're going to claim that men are more rational than woman, the long, long sordid and insane history of man is going to prove you wrong there buddy.
Different hormones and genes brings out different results, anyone can tell you that, and only a fool would say otherwise.
Not ONCE have I argued or talked with a girl that wasn't either shy about their opinion/standpoint standing by it until the end like it was the one and only absolute truth, and there's no other freaking way.
And my experience with other males have just been mild and logic until it's gone on for far too long, and than is when they tend to get mad, because they feel their views/standpoint aren't going through.
But that is just my analysis of it all. One poll point to the males.
Not ONCE have I argued or talked with a girl that wasn't either shy about their opinion/standpoint standing by it until the end like it was the one and only absolute truth, and there's no other freaking way.
And my experience with other males have just been mild and logic until it's gone on for far too long, and than is when they tend to get mad, because they feel their views/standpoint aren't going through.
But that is just my analysis of it all. One poll point to the males.
May I ask why? Can you share your experience.Pirate Kitty said:
on topic:
I shall state from my experience that Males, we go to the point, we state the point and wait for the response. Rinse and repeat.
And what have also experienced, males rarely bring things like "Do you know how it fell" "Or you don't know how I fell". Darling end of the day, if you fight about something like money/basic materials, feelings doesn't matter only utilitarianism.
(Also changes on personal level)
(Yes, I am A-social, not in relatioship atm, a-sex and support utilitarism. You don't need to use that as a reason to say " You wouldn't last long in relationship... ")
I haven't noticed any specific patterns of rationality that I can specifically attribute to men or women, however I do find that people who generalise about rationality based on gender are generally less rational than people who don't.Madara XIII said:
Excuse me from saying this, your opinions are good, I respect them. Hell, I even agree to most of them.likalaruku said:
But pardon me for putting this like this, due to my english skills being what they are (Not native to english, so I see this as the easiest way to explain this without insulting anyone) but:
You can have an axe or a saw, but when it comes to making firewood the other one is faster, but both end up in same result
Statistics mean nothing to the individual. I've meet entirely irrational women just as I've met entirely irrational men. That being said, women are more emotional and sensitive than men but that doesn't not preclude them from thinking rationally. In my view, it's a strength. Understanding both emotional and rational arguments is better than just one of the two.
All I know is my arguments with girls last much longer and make much less sense than the arguments with guys.
