Poll: Mixed Gender Showers

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MagunBFP

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Akichi Daikashima said:
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I would like to think we're all big boys and girls and don't freak out whenever something involving nudity comes up. But then there are the select few special individuals that just ruin it for everyone.
Replace "select few" with "select few million".

As nice as it is to think that our social maturity has evolved to the level that we can have mixed gender showers, the majority of people(or rather, men) still act like asshats about it.

Especially with the rise of reality shows and "Bro" culture.
A few million out of several billion, is actually not that much of a statistic.

I do love the fave that you quite pointedly say that out of "people" only men would cause problems. Women can't be sexually demeaning as well? I suggest you think back to high school and remember who was spreading the "random guy has a tiny dick" stories. Males aren't the only ones who'd ruin it.

I haven't had an experience with co-ed showers but if the problem is that nudity is associated with sex, so the naked body is sexualised and objectified, then by disassociating nudity by just sex is the logical way to remove (or at least severly reduce) the objectification.
 

AlbertoDeSanta

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It would be very, very awkward. I'd personally not like it (I can barely piss in public urinals due to my social anxieties) but it could work in theory. The only way I'd use them is if there were curtains present, allowing for communication but not eye contact or any form of viewing.
 

mateushac

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Considering my shower habits (such as singing the most embarassing songs and using shampoo to make funny hairdos) I'd preffer not to be seen by anyone. But since sometimes you just can't choose, I wouldn't mind coed bathrooms.
 

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MagunBFP said:
Akichi Daikashima said:
LetalisK said:
I would like to think we're all big boys and girls and don't freak out whenever something involving nudity comes up. But then there are the select few special individuals that just ruin it for everyone.
Replace "select few" with "select few million".

As nice as it is to think that our social maturity has evolved to the level that we can have mixed gender showers, the majority of people(or rather, men) still act like asshats about it.

Especially with the rise of reality shows and "Bro" culture.
A few million out of several billion, is actually not that much of a statistic.

I do love the fave that you quite pointedly say that out of "people" only men would cause problems. Women can't be sexually demeaning as well? I suggest you think back to high school and remember who was spreading the "random guy has a tiny dick" stories. Males aren't the only ones who'd ruin it.

I haven't had an experience with co-ed showers but if the problem is that nudity is associated with sex, so the naked body is sexualised and objectified, then by disassociating nudity by just sex is the logical way to remove (or at least severly reduce) the objectification.
Sorry, it was word association, when I thought of asshats, I immediately thought of some of my classmates(which are guys).

Also, it's nigh impossible to disassociate the naked body with sex; it's hardwired into the brain.

Even if media stopped the constant objectification & sexualisation of the naked body, it would still prove quite hard to control hormones.

Hell, speaking as a guy, I know that my john has "risen to the occasion" at moments in which I didn't want it to, no matter how hard I tried to beat it down.
 

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I don't want to have to shower infront of anyone. However, assuming that isn't an option, I'd much prefer mixed gender showers.
 

Knight Captain Kerr

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Yes I think gender neutral bathrooms are a good idea. That said people should still have privacy in these matters. There is a reason for stalls in bathrooms and I wouldn't want to get in the same shower as another group of people. Have these public showers be in stalls too.
 

uchytjes

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I honestly wouldn't care a bit about co-ed showers, but only as long as there is at least a few private shower rooms. Hell, it'd probably be a lot more efficient to clean for the janitors in the building with only one room instead of two for each floor.

Although I do have to say the pervert inside my head is thinking of having a massive, co-ed bathing complex in the middle of campus with both inside and outside portions (winter would be a ***** without it) and no private rooms, so that is an alternative. It'd basically be a water park, but everyone is naked.
 

Angie7F

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Mixed gender bath rooms...
It just reminds me of allie mvbeal.

I see a few of them in the suburban areas, but it is just plain awkward
 

asap

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Hmm this would probably cause an increase in rape.
I mean once women see my body they cant help themselves...
 

lechat

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asap said:
Hmm this would probably cause an increase in rape.
I mean once women see my body they cant help themselves...
yeah i've often had that problem from female medical practitioners whenever i take off my shirt
fact is if ppl are raised around nudity it stops being an issue. throw a bunch of grown adults into a cooed shower together without that sorta upbringing and it will prolly get a bit rapie
 

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I think it might be a little late to start braking down some gender barriers for most people when they are in college. Teaching gender neutrality should start at a younger age.

Also, associating nudity and genitalia with sex is hardwired into the brain. It would require extreme amounts of indoctrination to overwrite that. It's just not feasible.
 

Wuvlycuddles

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Problem is we still live in the prudish misogynistic christian west, where we are taught to be ashamed of our bodies. As long as there are people out there that treat nudity as being sinful, shameful and very personal/private we can never have a nice open and free society where co-ed showers are totally ok.

Akichi Daikashima said:
Hell, speaking as a guy, I know that my john has "risen to the occasion" at moments in which I didn't want it to, no matter how hard I tried to beat it down.
Well, just imagine women being totally cool and understanding about it and not pointing fingers at you and screaming PERVERT!

In the meantime my captcha has the answer for your problem:
edit: looks like it broke... the captcha said "Hit the sack"
 

MetalMagpie

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I've used mixed gender showers before and I'm completely fine with them providing there are shower curtains/stalls (i.e. so you're not actually visible while showering).

If it's just a line of showerheads, then no. I find that awkward enough when it's just women!
 

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loa said:
Yes I believe a society in which people are comfortable with the look of their and others natural bodies would be more healthy than a society infected by shame.
I'm nto sure co-ed showers, or open showers period, do that.
 

lacktheknack

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I would start taking sponge baths in my dorm room. I hate being nude around people.
 

FFP2

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If you mean open showers then no. I wouldn't feel comfortable being naked around other people.

If you mean showers that can be locked/private but both genders can use it then I'd be fine with that.
 

MagunBFP

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Akichi Daikashima said:
Sorry, it was word association, when I thought of asshats, I immediately thought of some of my classmates(which are guys).

Also, it's nigh impossible to disassociate the naked body with sex; it's hardwired into the brain.

Even if media stopped the constant objectification & sexualisation of the naked body, it would still prove quite hard to control hormones.

Hell, speaking as a guy, I know that my john has "risen to the occasion" at moments in which I didn't want it to, no matter how hard I tried to beat it down.
So you'd get a chubby if you saw a naked 80 year old woman? I mean she'd be all naked, hey she might even be coming onto you, older people still get laid. You might not find her particularly attractive, but by your logic she's naked so... yeah sex. Not doing it for you? How about a naked 20 year old, all ready and raring to jump you... except she's 150kgs (thats 330 pounds for the non-metric) is your "little guy" still rising to the occasion? But... she's naked so again... sexy times yes?

Sex is definitely hardwired into the brain, and at its most basic its the one thing we all have in common, the urge to breed... except for gay people. If sex is so impossible to remove from nudity then why aren't there modesty rules preventing homosexual people from sharing communal facilites where the sexes are segregated? Wouldn't the sight of a naked adult male/female (innocently changing in a gym locker room) be as traumatic(?)/impacting on a gay teenage boy/girl, as a straight teenager seeing a naked person of the opposite sex? Won't somebody think of the children.

It's easy to generalise and say that naked == sexy but when all is said and done it comes down to your mindset. Sure the first few times (or few thousand for the asshats) you might get aroused, but how long would it take until the person taking a shower across from you becomes a person and not just a pair of tits and a pussy or a cock and abs (or whatever it is that women like about men)
 

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Oh god this would be the worst thing ever for me. Fucking hell on earth right there. Hell I got awkward showering with just guys after PE already, though that would probably also have to do with my, at the time latent, bisexuality.
Thing is, I have never had a boner that I could have stopped myself from having and am ludicrously easily turned on. Pair that with feeling awkward about being overweight, and just being very shy and awkward in social situations in general, I'd end up being the stinky guy on campus.

As for the poll, I don't think it'd have any effect on the grand scheme. It might change some individuals, but by and large boys like boobies, and that ain't never goin' outta style.
 

MagunBFP

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matthew_lane said:
MagunBFP said:
I haven't had an experience with co-ed showers but if the problem is that nudity is associated with sex, so the naked body is sexualised and objectified, then by disassociating nudity by just sex is the logical way to remove (or at least severly reduce) the objectification.
No it won't. What you are referring to as objectification is misnamed... What you are talking about is the biological urge to copulate... Thats not objectification, thats a biological imperative, a survival desire (like seeking out sweet flavoured foods).
As with my response to Akichi, do you get the biological urge to copulate with any naked person of the gender of your preference? Let's pre-empt the possible arguement of you wouldn't want to copulate with a minor or anyone too old because they're incapable of producing a child... except most females between the ages of 13 and 50 are capable of reproducing. Attraction to minors is instinctual isn't it? Anyone who would want sex with a 13yr old is a predator and should be reviled. Except thats an attitude that society has formed. Go back in time and if a girl wasn't married and bred by 16/17 she was doomed to being useless to her family.

Seeing a naked body only as a object of sexual pleasure, removing the personality of the person and seeing them only as the walking meatbag with pleasing sexual organs, that is objectification. There's a distinct difference between the two but I think its a bit more complicated then you're suggesting.