Poll: Most Hostile Niche Group

[emeraldrafael]

Poser

I think we've all heard the word at one point or another, or maybe even said it ourselves. Recently I saw it in the fan fic My Immortal (which I'm trying to slog my way through just out of sheer self masochism and because everyone says its terrible), but heard it more recently while I'm away at D.C. after a Capitals fan said it to me for wearing a penguins shirt.

So the question came up amongst my friends while we were in the Hotel. Which Niche group of people do you think is more hostile towards posers? I find it to be Goths (particularly the ones that go to Hot Topic and Spencers and such [edit, yes, I know, those are not the best people to take an example of the Gothic lifestyle from]), which I also find funny cause most goth people arent as hard as they would like ot think they are or are posing themselves.

So yeah, just a general question I suppose.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

I was thinking the same thing. Then again, I guess it's easy for that thought to come to mind as a gamer commenting on a gaming-related forum.

I would know though, I'm a gamer and I'm a hostile asshole!

 

[TwistedEllipses]

Jocks. They think they're so big just cos they invented a strap...

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I don't think emos should be on that list because they're just poser goths.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

Yeah, the amount of bile our community has for "casual" gamers is astounding.

EDIT: Seriously, we get so defensive. We whine about being picked then when gaming gains popularity we turn into hipsters.

 

[staika]

I got to go with either metal heads they are very hostile towards everyone including their own members. If you mix up one of the 50,000 sub-genres you might as well have insulted someone's own mother because they will flame you for it. There is also a lot of hate between the 50,000 sub-genres and a lot of metal heads will only listen to one specific sub-genre and every other type of metal is shit in their eyes as their very willing to tell you over and over again.

 

[RanD00M]

Petrol Heads. You say one wrong thing about cars and you will not hear the end of it for the rest of your life.

 

[RanD00M]

I got to go with either metal heads they are very hostile towards everyone including their own members. If you mix up one of the 50,000 sub-genres you might as well have insulted someone's own mother because they will flame you for it. There is also a lot of hate between the 50,000 sub-genres and a lot of metal heads will only listen to one specific sub-genre and every other type of metal is shit in their eyes as their very willing to tell you over and over again.

Not really. There are many loudmouths in our metal community, but most of us are open to new bands and genres, even outside of metal. Its the same with every clique, the loudest ones get the most attention and make sure everyone else gets outed for one mans mistake of not shutting the fuck up.

 

[Bon_Clay]

Gamers are probably the ones with the biggest problem with poseurs(which is how its actually spelled, looks stupid I know), but that's generally just dismissiveness and bickering. Same with goths, the people who shop at hot topic are referred to as mall goths and looked down on by both real goths and people who dislike them both.

I wouldn't really call gamers/geeks the most hostile though, they are bitter and prone to raging on forums but in real life they are pretty tame. You're not going to get beat up and stuck in a locker because you own a PS3 instead of an Xbox360. Jocks and maybe preppy kids are the most distasteful to be around in real life when you're not part of their group. With nerds you just won't be able to follow their conversation.

The same is true of metalheads which someone else brought up. Metalheads are very well know for being crazed fanboys online. They seem to hate all non-metal, and all disagree over which sub-genres are good and which are shit. But in person they're generally pretty cool people and probably happy to meet anyone with even slightly similar interest in music.

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Every group is precisely as hostile as every other group. The one you have the most contact with will obviously seem the most hostile to you.

Nobody hears the millions who politely keep their traps shut over the sound of a hundred whiny idiots screeching at the top of their lungs.

 

[badgersprite]

Well, in all fairness, OP, you're the one who created a thread stereotyping people based on some superficial characteristics. Maybe that says something about the question. What niche group do you belong to?

I also agree with people who say gamers, but I would raise that to geeks, otaku and fanboys/girls of any kind.

 

[DEAD34345]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

Gamers aren't a niche, and they haven't been for years. There's nearly as many "Gamers" now as there are movie-watchers, or book-readers. I'd say the console fans / hardcore / casual are the niches (even that might be pushing it), and although they can be bad I wouldn't say they were particularly worse than any other groups in this regard. It's kind of hard to identify and rally against "posers" through the anonymity of the internet, so it's more wars with other niches that happen instead.

More directly OT: I have never been directly involved with any of those types of people, so I really wouldn't know. Are they more of an American thing?

 

[emeraldrafael]

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Depends where you go. Some countries are big on one thing, others big on another. If your country had any type of sports things (national teams, city/state teams and such) or just sports in school, you've probably met a jock.

Goths... I guess they're more of an American thing, thogh they may be big in other countries.

nerds and geeks are everywhere, if you've never met one, I think you've been leading a very sheltered life.

And I guess Emo is more of an American thing, mainly cause I dont think other countries would appreciate you cutting yourself and such (wow, I feel terrible for generalizing like that).

On that note:

I don't think emos should be on that list because they're just poser goths.

Yeah, But I figured they're a big enough group on their own where they have a name and a large enough population to constitute it, especially since they're influencing culture ont heir own.

EDIT:

Well, in all fairness, OP, you're the one who created a thread stereotyping people based on some superficial characteristics. Maybe that says something about the question. What niche group do you belong to?

I also agree with people who say gamers, but I would raise that to geeks, otaku and fanboys/girls of any kind.

Yeah, but its hard to ask the question without doing so. Though I'd like to think I transcend groups, I'd put myself in the nerd/geek area first and foremost. Its a not a bout a niche war, just which come off as most abrasive. Its not really even a bad thing, just an honest and open question that a few of my friends and i came up with,a nd felt it was enough to make a thread.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

Gamers aren't a niche, and they haven't been for years. There's nearly as many "Gamers" now as there are movie-watchers, or book-readers. I'd say the console fans / hardcore / casual are the niches (even that might be pushing it), and although they can be bad I wouldn't say they were particularly worse than any other groups in this regard. It's kind of hard to identify and rally against "posers" through the anonymity of the internet, so it's more wars with other niches that happen instead.

More directly OT: I have never been directly involved with any of those types of people, so I really wouldn't know. Are they more of an American thing?

By that following Jocks, Nerds and Emo are no longer niche. There's lots of mainstream appeal to all. Regardless niche:

1. A situation or activity specially suited to a person's interests, abilities, or nature: found her niche in life.

 

[Samoftherocks]

Poser

I think we've all heard the word at one point or another, or maybe even said it ourselves. Recently I saw it in the fan fic My Immortal (which I'm trying to slog my way through just out of sheer self masochism and because everyone says its terrible), but heard it more recently while I'm away at D.C. after a Capitals fan said it to me for wearing a penguins shirt.

So the question came up amongst my friends while we were in the Hotel. Which Niche group of people do you think is more hostile towards posers? I find it to be Goths (particularly the ones that go to Hot Topic and Spencers and such [edit, yes, I know, those are not the best people to take an example of the Gothic lifestyle from]), which I also find funny cause most goth people arent as hard as they would like ot think they are or are posing themselves.

So yeah, just a general question I suppose.

Not sure if a specific niche group can be called out for hating "posers" exactly. Ultimately in any social construct involving people, it comes down to "us and them". With the "us" being the acceptable group of people you surround yourself with, and the "them" being virtually everyone else by varying degrees of hatred the farther away from the core values the "us" subscribes to.

In your Capitals example, he sounded like he was calling you out as an opposing fan rather than a predetermined definition of his hurled insult. I wouldn't qualify that guy as "jock" because he made a sports-derived insult, but instead by either one of two terms: "heartily competitive fan" in the case of maybe he was genuinely ribbing you, but more likely, by the implied venom that usually comes with the word poser, he is a "douche".

And I think that's the group: Douches. Douches hate posers.

Douches are everywhere, in every niche and subgenre, popular, unpopular, goth, metal, redneck, gamer, b-boy, and Jersey Shore.

On that note, I propose an experiment.

I issue a friendly challenge to all with that last example to truly test whether you believe everyone on Jersey Shore is a "poser". First glance, yeah probably. Do you really believe that though?

Maybe you want to believe it. Maybe you have to believe it. Maybe you don't believe it. But if at any point during this thought process you said to yourself "I KNOW they're posers", then you have cast douchey judgment upon a group of people whose lives, though broadcasted as characters for all to see in a glorious attempt to be as loathsome as possible to some and kinsmen to others, is horribly skewed by the harsh reality of "reality" TV editing (the worst thing to happen to TV ever...ever), thus edging you dangerously close to "douchedom".

And we've all done it. Present company included (this means me too, dear reader). The trick is to not stay a douche. Own your mistaken douchey application of "poser" because once, you were that "poser" to someone. And don't try to convince yourself that you don't care. Of course you do, because who the hell is that douche to call you a poser?!

In the end, that "poser" could save your life, and conversely, you could fall in love with that "douche" (this is a gender non-specific term).

Bottomline: Sometimes we're the "posers" and sometimes we're the "douches". Be the bigger person when you have to, have some humble pie when you must.

Just don't be an asshole about it. It's always open season on assholes...

 

[Xixikal]

Really? Easy: Gamers. We're so hostile that we're fragmented within our own niche. Console wars, hardcore vs casual gamers etc.

I concur.

 

[FalloutJack]

"Everyone Else" hates those niche groups, actually. And they hate each other too. And they certainly believe everyone besides themselves are the posers. It's a vicious merry-go-round cycle.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Warhammer 40000. Considering the reaction I got in my thread about the guy who claims Space Marine rips off Gears of War, we seem to go fucking berserk any time somebody questions originality.