That was kind of the point of the topic. Not "is x game good because of y or z", but which is a more important quality. The fact that I can find games of each general focus doesn't invalidate that I will inevitably make a choice. If I buy TF2 rather than HL2, or the reverse, I'm making a choice of which quality in a game is more important.Melaisis said:At least the OI (overall intelligence) is (usually) better in multiplayer games. I want opponents that adapt to my strategies, that work a way around my defences and are generally satisfying to kill. In singleplayer games, outside of RTSes, this experience with the AI is generally lacklustre if present at all.
Anyway, I find this topic quite shallow; I'm not going to play TF2 or BF2 for the single player, am I? Likewise multiplayer on even such FPSes as HL2 (who really plays deathmatch!?) or Prey is generally not what you buy the game for. It all depends what the game itself is aimed at.
Truth.Seldon2639 said:That was kind of the point of the topic. Not "is x game good because of y or z", but which is a more important quality. The fact that I can find games of each general focus doesn't invalidate that I will inevitably make a choice. If I buy TF2 rather than HL2, or the reverse, I'm making a choice of which quality in a game is more important.Melaisis said:At least the OI (overall intelligence) is (usually) better in multiplayer games. I want opponents that adapt to my strategies, that work a way around my defences and are generally satisfying to kill. In singleplayer games, outside of RTSes, this experience with the AI is generally lacklustre if present at all.
Anyway, I find this topic quite shallow; I'm not going to play TF2 or BF2 for the single player, am I? Likewise multiplayer on even such FPSes as HL2 (who really plays deathmatch!?) or Prey is generally not what you buy the game for. It all depends what the game itself is aimed at.
agreed, to a point. I do admit to looking at some games and their multiplayer options just so I can team up with some select friends to play together (LAN). Other than that, I totally agree with HalfShadow.HalfShadow said:I don't give a hearty shit about multiplayer.
Good point, but the purpose of this thread isn't to determine what makes for good gameplay in and of itself, but rather to ascertain which is a more important component of the game itself. If I buy Halo 3, I know I'll be getting a mediocre single-player game, with a pretty fantastic multi-player game. If I buy Mass Effect, I know I'm getting a great single-player game, and no multi-player component. Which would you rather buy in general?Joeshie said:This thread is stupid. What constitutes good gameplay is based off of the kind of game your making, not the other way around.
The most important component of the game is going to be the one that is done the best. In the case of Halo, the multi-player is clearly better and thus is the more important component. In the case of Half-Life, the single-player is clearly better than the multi-player and thus is the more important component.Seldon2639 said:Good point, but the purpose of this thread isn't to determine what makes for good gameplay in and of itself, but rather to ascertain which is a more important component of the game itself. If I buy Halo 3, I know I'll be getting a mediocre single-player game, with a pretty fantastic multi-player game. If I buy Mass Effect, I know I'm getting a great single-player game, and no multi-player component. Which would you rather buy in general?Joeshie said:This thread is stupid. What constitutes good gameplay is based off of the kind of game your making, not the other way around.
I agree it's personal preference, which I mentioned in my first post. I was curious about the breakdown of people on The Escapist forums in terms of which they preferred. The basic question is: would you prefer TF2 or HL2?Joeshie said:The most important component of the game is going to be the one that is done the best. In the case of Halo, the multi-player is clearly better and thus is the more important component. In the case of Half-Life, the single-player is clearly better than the multi-player and thus is the more important component.Seldon2639 said:Good point, but the purpose of this thread isn't to determine what makes for good gameplay in and of itself, but rather to ascertain which is a more important component of the game itself. If I buy Halo 3, I know I'll be getting a mediocre single-player game, with a pretty fantastic multi-player game. If I buy Mass Effect, I know I'm getting a great single-player game, and no multi-player component. Which would you rather buy in general?Joeshie said:This thread is stupid. What constitutes good gameplay is based off of the kind of game your making, not the other way around.
I am personally a heavy multi-player gamer, but I still love a good single-player experience. It all really comes down to personal opinion. Neither mode is inherently better than the other.
It's really hard to get both a good multi-player experience and single-player experience in one package. The only one that comes to mind that has done this recently is the Orange Box and possibly Call of Duty 4 if they ironed out some of the annoying issues with the multi-player.