Poll: My friend is a Communist

Mr.PlanetEater

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If she believes in Communism the ideal then she is a Communist. That said you should buy her a fruit basket and welcome her to the party comrade.

>Is actually social-libertarian.
 

Plazmatic

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Op doesn't know what communism is, and doesn't realize that he/she is probably a socialist. Public and communal sectors in government, if you believe in public sectors, your a socialist, you may be a communist, but you are CERTAINLY NOT a capitalist. A capitalist would be apposed to probably even the system of government itself, or at least any inclusion of it in the economic sector. The moment you support government interventions and public welfare through public programs like schools and health care, you cease to be any were close to being a capitalist.

also for those who say communism doesn't work, its never been put in place, so you would never be able to tell (there is no government in communism, as well there isn't money) Also there are communal societies who have worked just fine (the Incan empire, most of the new world empires and the many communal societies even in today's world)

Granite I still think our State Capitalist system promotes achievement a little bit more and hardwork.
 
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As has been said, this is a bit pedantic.

I'm a Labour supporter, I just happen to live under a non-Labour government. Can I really still be a labour supporter?

Well yes, yes I can. I'm also a socialist in a capitalist society because I believe in most of the tenets of socialism and practice them were I can.
 

Daverson

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All you need to be a communist is a belief in communism. Saying you can't be a communist outside a communist country is like saying you can't be religious outside a theocracy. (And in fact, a lot of communist ideology is based around the idea there should only be a single country, and that any state that exists outside this is inherently criminal, hence the whole "revolution" thing)

Of course, my guess is it's more of a anti-establishment thing in her case. Historically the "continuous revolution" sorts were the first sort of people to disappear in communist states, for obvious reasons!
 

AmrasCalmacil

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mr. awesome said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Maybe the USSR kind of communist, but again, the USSR was hardly communist.
u wot m8


otherwise, okay, you have a point...
What he's saying is that the USSR was a State Capitalism rather than a true Communism.
 

Alandoril

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A true Communist society is in theory an endgame when all other options have been played out in the cycle of Capitalism. It will happen when mankind is ready for it to happen, and more importantly when it becomes clear that there is no other way of living other than as complete equals in a time when we shall no longer be judged on what kind of car we drive, or how big our house is.

For those of you saying that it didn't work out well in the past (for example in Russia, China and of course North Korea being the big three) well those aren't actually Communist societies. There has never been a truly Communist society. Those examples are all bastardisations of the ideology, pale and horrific imitations of the actuality.

Imagine what could be achieved if mankind was truly unified. An end to the pettiness of greed, the slaughters in the name of religion, the subjugation of Third World populations for the profit of Western corporations, the famine, the wars, the disease.

We could be a great people, we simply lack the light to show us the way ;)
 

Doopliss64

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I have a friend like that. He holds a number of what could be considered "extreme" political views, including Communism. We even joke amongst ourselves that my mission in life is to make sure he is never elected to any kind of political office.
 

Montezuma's Lawyer

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Helmholtz Watson said:
II2 said:
She decorates her attire and living space with propaganda items and icons, but beyond that she mostly gets together with her friends to hate the system and do part time, unpaid work as a Cuban travel and tourism advocate. Does that qualify you, or would she have to be actually affiliated with an existing red power, or living in a communist state?

Son, are you telling me that your friend is a Godless commie?


....lol.

In all seriousness, unless your friend is intending to become some violent revolutionary, I don't think you have anything to worry about. I think she is being ideal, but I think she might change her tune if she grew up in the Soviet Union or North Korea.

There is nothing wrong with being an idealist.
You can be a communist and understand what happened in SU and NK because those were not communism, they were totalitarianism.


Captcha": together again (I guess captcha is from East Berlin)
 

Andre Rapp

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the issue with being a Communist in a non-Communist country is that they are the "other" kind of Communist.
you have 2 kinds, the revolutionary, and the oppressed. the revolutionary lives outside of communism, and considered it to be far better than whatever system is in place at the moment, these people serve to spread communism to other nations in accordance with the teachings or Marxism. once (if ever) the nation is overthrown or converted in another way to communism, the revolutionary communists are systematically removed from society, because they will inevitably revolt once it is revealed to them that communism is an inherently flawed system of endless downward spirals and oppression. they are eventually replaced with docile workers who long ago lost the will to resist after they were politically or militarily defeated by the revolutionary communists.

your friend's communist buddies look like a cult for a reason, any sane argument will conclude communism to be a flawed system, they use brainwashing and emotional arguments to build support. the President claiming that the credit of private financial success lies in the government infrastructure, a comment that can be seen in State broadcasts from North Korea whenever something good happens, is testament to how effective the process is, even if it is incredibly slow.