Poll: New forum rules - Yay or Nay?

[mjc0961]

No, none of the mods do. Empty ones still show a grey bar.

I can understand SpinWhiz, but is this not unfair considering you're still general users?

I'm sure he has one. It's just not there for us to see, as he outranks us. And he can probably see all of ours and all of the other mod's meters, but the meters of the admins. And the admins can obviously see everyone's meters. That's my guess anyway.

 

[Actual]

And the advice forum needs to die in a fire

I may regret asking this, but... why? I seem to remember reading somewhere in one topic that some commotion blew up when it was brought in (I don't think i was around at the time, I'm sure it's been there since I've been a member), but I don't see the problem Then again, maybe I'm just being thick again...

I may have been too harsh.

When it started it was almost nothing but trolls, making (probably) fictitious threads about high-school drama. or the attention seekers wanting to air their insipid problems. Because the staff knew it was going to be a problem area, they gave the forum mods carte blanche in that forum only to enforce the rules differently to the rest of the site which resulted in a number of unfair probations.

Plus it attracted whiny emotionally crippled attention seekers to the site so all you could see in the recent forum posts box was:

Sooo there's this girl.....
I want to date my best friend's boyfriend.
My cat is causing my girlfriend to leave me.
Forbidden love between a jock and a geek.
Soooo I want to date my boyfriend's best friend.
I think my best friend is cheating on her boyfriend.
Soooo I think my girlfriend is cheating on me with my best friend.

I've avoided it religiously because of that and just now poked my head in because of your question and it seems to have improved; there were only 3 whiny threads on the front page the rest was useful advice threads. So it may have improved since I last went in there.

The only remaining reason for it to go is that the mods still keep the practise of putting anyone who makes a joke there on probation. Saying that this place is to discuss people's serious problems and making light when someone is suffering will not be tolerated.

 

[Snotnarok]

Sooo now everyone can see how many screw ups they and others have had? That's ....kinda not alright. Shouldn't that be between you and the mods?

 

[DuplicateValue]

Yeah, I agree with the general consensus here - the system doesn't seem to allow for people that have changed their ways after an initial bad streak.

Though I suppose the mods would be able to recognise these situations and adjust the punishment accordingly.

Edit: And after checking my account, it appears to work in retrospect too. I haven't received a warning in over a little under a year, and yet I'm still at the limit apparently.

 

[Kadoodle]

This new system is a lot more intimidating. I don't like having a bar that holds a history of all my offenses, and one that is permanently affected. I make mistakes. I don't need more than a warning to set me in line, and I have great respect for mods that let me off easy with a warning when I'm being a twat. But this system is going to make me feel like a criminal. I vote nay.

 

[lolmynamewastaken]

trying to get the new rules to come up by posting, i'll edit in what i actually think after...

 

[mexicola]

I still didn't see it, but I didn't post in a while. Maybe I'll get it with this post. *furthering discussion*

Edit: maybe I wasn't paying attention before but I don't see anything radically new here, except the first degree of moderation "warning". And maybe a more detailed version of the "don't be a dick" clause.

Edit2: I also feel slightly voyeuristic checking out people's profiles now, but it's fun. ^^

 

[-Samurai-]

As long as the basics are the same, I'm fine. Just don't be an ass to people, and have some common sense, and you're usually all good. Though I don't see the point on making everyones warning history public knowledge. To be honest, it seems kind of immature.

 

[icyneesan]

We can't be perverts anymore!? WHAT!? The likely hood of me getting banned in the next few days is very great now.

 

[spartan231490]

New rules, what new rules?

they just made the penalties stricter right? I'm kinda against that actually, but I have no control over it. If it helps the community then I guess I'll get behind it eventually.

"but you ordered 3 pepperoni."
"I fear change."

 

[sneakypenguin]

Probation: You are on probation. All infractions while on probation result in suspensions. The third infraction results in a permanent ban from the forums. Yay, how freaking stupid, time to use an alt account whenever I enter a debate and just use this account for "this" or cheerleading post... I only remember one legit probation and have been here for 3 years or so, and my bar looks like im a troll. I figure this will be changed soon enough.

 

[ryai458]

So who else just posted to see if new rules popped up?

 

[mireko]

We can't be perverts anymore!? WHAT!? The likely hood of me getting banned in the next few days is very great now.
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That was in the rules? Great, there goes half the forum.

 

[Black Phoenix]

And the advice forum needs to die in a fire

I may regret asking this, but... why? I seem to remember reading somewhere in one topic that some commotion blew up when it was brought in (I don't think i was around at the time, I'm sure it's been there since I've been a member), but I don't see the problem Then again, maybe I'm just being thick again...

I may have been too harsh.

When it started it was almost nothing but trolls, making (probably) fictitious threads about high-school drama. or the attention seekers wanting to air their insipid problems. Because the staff knew it was going to be a problem area, they gave the forum mods carte blanche in that forum only to enforce the rules differently to the rest of the site which resulted in a number of unfair probations.

Plus it attracted whiny emotionally crippled attention seekers to the site so all you could see in the recent forum posts box was:

Sooo there's this girl.....
I want to date my best friend's boyfriend.
My cat is causing my girlfriend to leave me.
Forbidden love between a jock and a geek.
Soooo I want to date my boyfriend's best friend.
I think my best friend is cheating on her boyfriend.
Soooo I think my girlfriend is cheating on me with my best friend.

I've avoided it religiously because of that and just now poked my head in because of your question and it seems to have improved; there were only 3 whiny threads on the front page the rest was useful advice threads. So it may have improved since I last went in there.

The only remaining reason for it to go is that the mods still keep the practise of putting anyone who makes a joke there on probation. Saying that this place is to discuss people's serious problems and making light when someone is suffering will not be tolerated.

Ah, that makes sense, thanks

As I mentioned earlier, I think it came in before I joined the site, and it took me a few months to even start posting, so it looks like I missed all that trouble.

 

[Zhukov]

*posts to see these new rules*

Hm, doesn't seem much different to how it was last time I read them.

I'm not fussed.

 

[Jonny49]

A forum heath-bar?

Sounds funky.

 

[beema]

I didn't even bother reading it.

Could somebody be arsed to outline the changes that have been made in it from the old rules?

 

[drisky]

Sooo now everyone can see how many screw ups they and others have had? That's ....kinda not alright. Shouldn't that be between you and the mods?

Thats something I feel too, like it gives others a way to silently judge your past.

 

[Venereus]

They better improve this system soon. As it is now, it's pretty lacking.

 

[Wintermoot]

I'm just wondering why ad-blockers are now rated at the same level as child porn.

I get that they fuck up the business model, but seriously?



And to clarify, I'm not advocating their use ok?

well they get sponsored by the people paying for the adds so it kinda makes sense.
OT
I don,t like the idea of a "health bar" but if you abide by their rules you should be fine although it,s kinda weird that add blocking is considers a very high offense.
Then again I can,t change it (at least this isn't as bad as youtube).