Poll: No-kids-allowed movement. Yay or nay?

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conflictofinterests said:
I'm on the side of parents here. Their lives already conform around the wants and needs of their children. You don't have to boot them out of a god-forsaken MOVIE THEATER for the one time they get out of the house for recreational purposes a MONTH.
If other customers are being hindered in their enjoyment? Yes, they should have to be kicked out. If you can't control your kids, don't go out with them to places where they hinder others. Get a babysitter, for fuck's sake. Your neighbour's teen is not expensive, you can probably hire her for a night for thirty bucks to look after that brat.

And I see points of both sides: it takes just one couple who don't control their kids. In a restaurant with enough space for 40 people? That already has a big chance of going wrong. In a plane with a few hundred? Even more so. But yeah, if you can control your kid, it is somewhat unfair to say you can't do all of that. On the other hand: most of the current age regulations are unfair anyhow, and somehow people seem to be in favour of those.

EDIT: Most important thing: THEY CHOSE TO BE PARENTS. If they're not prepared to face the consequences of that, they should've used a rubber or something. And yes, those consequences may include measures like this.


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A Distant Star said:
In short, if you have a problem with kids sharing a restaurant with you, I think you should grow up and stop being such a whinny little baby.
I go to a restaurant to have a nice dinner in a calm environment with friends or (grown up) family members. I have a problem with noisy kids whose parents won't correct them and no, that doesn't make me a whiny little baby (nice ad hominem, by the way).
 

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Fancy restaurant? Yes please. You do not need to take your five year old to Olive Garden. Most places? Not so much. Let them take them to Perkins or Denny's but also reserve the right to kick their asses out if they don't behave to a degree.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
They banned smoking in restaurants because it's bad for people's lungs.
They should ban kids from restaurants because it's bad for people's blood pressure.
I'm completely serious.
this one billion percent, few things piss me off more then a screeching child at a restaurant, one of them being the little bastards running around and causing a big scene. i have a story to tell and it goes like this: i went downtown with my parents to enjoy happy hour and a nice meal at this bar/grill type place, for whatever asinine reason there had been a child's birthday there just finishing around happy hour(responsible parenting ftw). so anyway we sit down and are waiting for the waitress to come by when these little shits start running around through the narrow gaps between tables and shooting crappy sucker dart guns at each other, several of which hit me and my mother, to say nothing of landing in the chips the waitress had set out for us. the oblivious mother is chatting with her equally oblivious friends sucking down margaritas or martinis right next to our table. the ammunition is given back to the kids, despite my desire to beat the crap out of these annoying little creatures, and eventually creatures and brood mothers depart.

the moral of the story is:
DO NOT TAKE CHILDREN TO A BAR & GRILL DURING HAPPY HOUR.
 

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I also vote that you have to be 18 before posting on the internet. I also vote that anyone who speaks in ebonics shouldn't be allowed in stores. I also feel if you you don't get A's in school and go to college you shouldn't be allowed to own a car since you aren't smart enough to drive. Also, this topic annoys me, you shouldn't be allowed to post on this forum anymore.

See how dumb this idea is?
Well shit, I didn't know you owned the internet, all the stores in the world, all the governments in the world, all the cars in the world, and the Escapist. What did you invest in?
The same place that you invested in that lets you think you can control another human's actions because it causes you a minor annoyance.
 

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Kids shouldn't be allowed into PG13 and R rated movies regardless of parental supervision if they are under the age of 13. Maybe that way I will never hear a six year old talking loudly behind me while I am trying to watch Predators.
I absolutely agree with this statement. My theater that I go to often has a rule, "No children under 6 in an R rated movie past 6 PM, regardless of parent presence." It baffles me! Why should there even be a child under 12 being allowed in an R rated movie, regardless of a parent being there? Even more so, why past 6 PM? They play the exact same movie at 11:20 AM, 2 PM, 5 PM, etc. Did the movie suddenly get more violent or add some extra gore scenes I'm not aware of past 6 PM?

Seriously, children allowed into R rated movies annoys me to no end, especially babies. When you go watch a loud movie and the baby starts screaming, don't act all surprised. You kind of have a VERY LOUD R rated movie that's pissing off the baby, and then you decide to sit there and try to ignore it while everyone else is getting pissed off at you. Same with young children, except they're worse, since they try and talk during parts and should know better.
 

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Where does it end though? Pretty soon children will be banned from everywhere and have to wear those noise shock collars at all times. Hey I am all for stripping a human beings basic freedoms away but doesn't this seem like it could end with a power trip?
 

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Many problems stated in the OP aren't so much the children's fault, but instead the parent's fault. I'd say parenting is lacking in comparison to generations before, and has given way to obnoxious and annoying spawn that will continue to be that way for a long part of their lives.
 

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That sounds like an awful idea, if you can't put up with a kid then maybe you should be the one to leave.
 

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-Do you agree with this rule?

Hell yes. However, I dislike the idea of neglecting parent duties and just having this as an excuse to leave children at home. Learn how to parent, and this ban won't need to be employed.


-Do you hate this rule/does this rule affect you?

This would make me feel much better about purchasing tickets for public events which could be destroyed by annoying youngsters. (MOVIES)


-Do you think this is absurd or necessary?

If it doesn't become an excuse to further yourself from being the parent you should be, then I find it necessary.


-Do you wish to see this movement gain more support? Or not?

I want it to be discussed so that parents with issues realize their social lives would take an even more drastic downturn if they don't shape up their offspring.
 

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Dusquad said:
Where does it end though? Pretty soon children will be banned from everywhere and have to wear those noise shock collars at all times.
that's a good idea, maybe then we wouldn't have children screeching like howler monkeys when they don't get their way, Children are to be seen and not heard, and some shouldn't even bee seen, jesus christ some of these kids are just total train wrecks



xmbts said:
That sounds like an awful idea, if you can't put up with a kid then maybe you should be the one to leave.
You need to be locked in a room with 5-6 screaming crying whining children. I would love to see how long you last before snapping
 

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Certain places, such as certain restaurants and all movies rated over PG13, should have this ban in place. On airplanes, however, that issue is very hard to fix seeing as space is limited on a plane. That may be one of those "Just deal with it" situations.

You know what the worst part of this is? Movie theaters wouldn't have this problem at all if they just enforced their damn ratings. Little kids do not belong in PG13 and R movies.
 

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Treaos Serrare said:
xmbts said:
That sounds like an awful idea, if you can't put up with a kid then maybe you should be the one to leave.
You need to be locked in a room with 5-6 screaming crying whining children. I would love to see how long you last before snapping
Heh, welcome to my house, fact of the matter is it's blatant segregation, justified by the argument of 'they're kids, they don't know their own rights'.
 
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eh it really depends on the place, and it depends on how the parents are raising the child/reacting to the situation.

jesus by the looks of people in this thread i would swear none of you have dealt with children in your life...nor do you have any patience at all, unless you are ALL talking about in the most extreme cases, which even then your making it sound like walking death, when it's just a damn child.


we were all children once too...
 

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While I do agree that children can be a nuisance, esp when screaming, crying etc., but I think this is insane.
 

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Saulkar said:
No to infinity and beyond. Grow a thicker skin. I deal with annoying kids on a daily basis. Hell it is a lot more expensive for me when a kid knocks over $80 worth of blue berries or keeps screaming at the top of his lungs when his mother is try to ask me where a particular item is. At the movies, the movie is the distraction. At the restaurant, the crying part adds atmosphere, the hair pulling, you get the restaurant manager.

Everybody here voting Yay obviously cannot remember being a child and the already seamingly suffocating restrictions already placed upon them, multiple times moreso than 60 years ago. A person like me who had above average intelegence, independence, and maturity for my age as a child felt life to be excruciating.
i would have to disagree with you when i was a child i was well behaved when in public places. my parents taught me that there was a time and place to act crazy and to be polite and quiet
OT i voted yay but i favor a warning system like if your in a restaurant and your kid starts acting up you get a warning to calm him down and if you dont after that you get booted .
but even with that there are extenuating circumstances such as my 4 year old autistic cousin. most of the time hes well behaved but he can also throe a random tantrum when he becomes frustrated
 

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I'm totally for it. I hate kids in pubs. If you're not old enough to get a round in, get out.

I'm sure parents are less responsible than when I was a kid though. We rarely went anywhere that wasn't aimed at kids and if we stepped out of line, our parents punished us.
 

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Beautiful End said:
So you were watching a pornographic movie and there was a child there?!
WTF.
Anywho, I would've smacked the kid and told him to stop, and also, does that mean I can't bring my kid to a strip club?

BUT HIS MOTHER WORKS THERE!
 

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MelasZepheos said:
I'm a bit eh, but mostly I don't agree. Some of my earliest and fondest memories are of going out with my grandparents and parents. My Grandparents in particular used to take me to this restaurant that had children's meals that had containers shaped like policeman-dogs and cat-burglars, and so every lunchtime my granddad would tell me stories using these lunches. If I knew that someone was trying to or had managed to deprive me or another child of those sorts of memories (my grandparents died before I was ten, some of these memories are literally all I remember of them) then I would be so far beyond pissed at those people.

But then again, even at age five or six (and my parents insist even younger than that) I was apparently a quiet and polite child who understood that a restaurant was for your indoor voice, and not running around in either. I think that the problem here is not the children, but parents who can't control or haven't taught their children properly, and I don't think it's fair to deny children the chance to understand what it means to be an adult, and to 'feel grown-up,' as my parents used to say, just because some idiot parents don't understand about proper child rearing.

SO in short, no, I don't agree, and I think that the only people who genuinely agree with this are actually the selfish ones in this equation.
After thinking about it, I agree with your viewpoint. The problem isn't with the children, or with establishments banning children from their premises. The problem is with parents who can't control their children. I do indeed have fond memories from the years of 4-10 going with my grandparents to have dinner, get donuts, cinnamon rolls, what have you. The thing is that we were told to behave, and if we didn't they would take us home.

I would say the best option is to have a policy that says that parents who can't control their children will be evicted from the premises. It's not laying blame on the kids, it's laying it where it belongs, on the parents who can't control their kids and who haven't instilled decent values and manners into them.
 

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Vern said:
MelasZepheos said:
After thinking about it, I agree with your viewpoint. The problem isn't with the children, or with establishments banning children from their premises. The problem is with parents who can't control their children. I do indeed have fond memories from the years of 4-10 going with my grandparents to have dinner, get donuts, cinnamon rolls, what have you. The thing is that we were told to behave, and if we didn't they would take us home.

I would say the best option is to have a policy that says that parents who can't control their children will be evicted from the premises. It's not laying blame on the kids, it's laying it where it belongs, on the parents who can't control their kids and who haven't instilled decent values and manners into them.
This sounds like a good compromise, IMHO. But again, what about places where children obviously shouldn't be, but are brought in with their parents (thinking about that rated-R movie example up there)?
 

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Absolute bullshit. They're treating the symptoms instead of the problem. If the kid is acting up smack him around, he'll quiet up fast. Banning them entirely is ridiculous.