Poll: No One I Know Likes Good Games
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I know how you feel, mate. In elementary school, everyone hated on anime and manga and bullied me and my best friend for it(and 'cause of other reasons). My friend eventually changed school. I was also heavyily into F2P games and everywhere you looked on the net, there were WoW fanboys who just went around calling every other game shit.
Then I started upper secondary school, expecting 3 years of ignoring every other person there. Then I realized that pretty much everyone there watched anime (mainly mainstream stuff though, like Naruto) but there were some who were heavily into it, like me. Everyone was a WoW fanboy though but they weren't haters. So now I have loads of friends that are into the stuff that I'm into. People I barely even thought existed.
So, yeah. Depending on how much games means to you, I'd say that you try and find new friends. If a person is ignorant enough to claim that something I like is shit for no reason, I'd want him out of my life.
Then I started upper secondary school, expecting 3 years of ignoring every other person there. Then I realized that pretty much everyone there watched anime (mainly mainstream stuff though, like Naruto) but there were some who were heavily into it, like me. Everyone was a WoW fanboy though but they weren't haters. So now I have loads of friends that are into the stuff that I'm into. People I barely even thought existed.
So, yeah. Depending on how much games means to you, I'd say that you try and find new friends. If a person is ignorant enough to claim that something I like is shit for no reason, I'd want him out of my life.
They're called "bullies", Kanlic. It's the only personality type that would actively begrudge someone for something they don't like (or secretly enjoy but are too insecure to admit).
Azaraxzealot's desire to educate them is admirable but I'd sooner tell them to shut up. Most bullies are deaf to anything but their own bullshit.
Azaraxzealot's desire to educate them is admirable but I'd sooner tell them to shut up. Most bullies are deaf to anything but their own bullshit.
I don't have (m)any friends but as a general rule of thumb people don't comment on the fact I do a lot of gaming. I can't tell whether this is because they accept it or because they focus more on me having seen every episode of Star Trek (I'm 16 so they consider it "old" and nerdy). Everyone I know who do play games mostly just play CoD or Fifa.
See, the thing is, me and my friends actually tell eachother that what we like is crap all the time. Its not a big deal for me or them. To us its just how we are. I don't know anyone who's gaming sphere is just Fifa and COD (wonderful replacement of the name there by the way, by passively telling everyone COD is bad, if you can't tell that its sarcasm, well BLEH) and that's even with the most stubborn story hating game ignorant people I know.Azaraxzealot said:
You speak about it becoming an accepted medium, yet if we force games that they don't want to play down their throat, surely we'll just drive them away. Not that I really care on the whole "games must be accepted" debate, but its a fun counterpoint.
My friends and I like the same games for the most part. Although I play more diverse games than they do. The way it usually works is I get whatever I'm actually interested in for myself (Assassin's Creed, Fallout, etc.) Something singleplayer with a good time investment. Then I buy whatever they're interested in for multiplayer (Bad Company 2, Red Orchestra, etc.) So generally speaking they accept what I play because if they complain I'll just stop getting the games they like, because mine come first. =)
Yep I know exactly what this is like my friend laugh at me for playing Deus Ex and Freespace 2, whilst absolutely insisting that fable 3 was a good game. Admittedly I am the gamer of the group but they all play games and refuse to even touch anything that isn't current gen triple A.
Correction: "No one I know likes games I like."
Just because they don't like the games you like doesn't make them casuals. It means they have different tastes. Sophisticated, flexible FPS games are my favorites- Fallout 3/New Vegas, STALKER, that sort of thing, because I'm usually best as a medium-range sniper. However, I'm no stranger to a couple hours sprinting around knifing people in MW2 or BLOPS. Most of my internet friends are RPG nuts- they're all excited about Skyrim, but I couldn't care less. But they'll still pop into L4D2 or TF2 and play a few rounds as a group.
It's a matter of tastes. Just because someone doesn't enjoy the games you like doesn't make them any less of a gamer than you. It makes them a different gamer.
/rant off
Although your friend is kind of a jerk for the whole "shit, shit, shit, good" thing. Just ignore it and play games you both enjoy when he's over, then go back to your more preferred genres when he's out.
Just because they don't like the games you like doesn't make them casuals. It means they have different tastes. Sophisticated, flexible FPS games are my favorites- Fallout 3/New Vegas, STALKER, that sort of thing, because I'm usually best as a medium-range sniper. However, I'm no stranger to a couple hours sprinting around knifing people in MW2 or BLOPS. Most of my internet friends are RPG nuts- they're all excited about Skyrim, but I couldn't care less. But they'll still pop into L4D2 or TF2 and play a few rounds as a group.
It's a matter of tastes. Just because someone doesn't enjoy the games you like doesn't make them any less of a gamer than you. It makes them a different gamer.
/rant off
Although your friend is kind of a jerk for the whole "shit, shit, shit, good" thing. Just ignore it and play games you both enjoy when he's over, then go back to your more preferred genres when he's out.
Sorry for the double post
I can also see the point if someone is not interested in playing video games because they are so focused an passionate about something other than games. That's fine, go do that thing you do, but to flat out attack them is where I draw the line. There is an important difference between having no interest and dismissal. I am not trying to lead people into the holy light of gaming, I just want them to understand that they not seeing the potential of video games and what they do achieve. I am also not saying that people should take an eight week long introductory course, but if their only experience with a game is from what they saw from a youtube video, they are missing the point.
The basis of anybody's judgement is past experience. I won't see a movie that features head trauma (i.e. bonked on the head) in the trailer, because without fail, those movies turn out to be insubstantial comedies that I deem a waste of my time. There is no judgement people should make without some past experience. Those that do are considered ignorant, this much I think we can agree on.Staskala said:
I can also see the point if someone is not interested in playing video games because they are so focused an passionate about something other than games. That's fine, go do that thing you do, but to flat out attack them is where I draw the line. There is an important difference between having no interest and dismissal. I am not trying to lead people into the holy light of gaming, I just want them to understand that they not seeing the potential of video games and what they do achieve. I am also not saying that people should take an eight week long introductory course, but if their only experience with a game is from what they saw from a youtube video, they are missing the point.
"video games aren't supposed to have stories."
WHAT?! I guess video games have been wrong sense the late 80's. Challenge your friends to find a video game without a story. And Multiplayer modes don't count.
WHAT?! I guess video games have been wrong sense the late 80's. Challenge your friends to find a video game without a story. And Multiplayer modes don't count.
The way I see such matters is simple: "If you're criticizing something that you've never personally experienced, then your opinion doesn't matter." There's no politeness or respect of other peoples opinions here. If you've never played the game, then you literally don't get to comment on its quality. Some people have said it already, but I would literally find some new friends who aren't quite such massive pricks.
I'm surprised they said the God of War trilogy was shit. It seems like something that's right up their....oh. That has a STORY doesn't it? Like, y'know, every game released in nearly the last 2 decades.
"Yea video games aren't supposed to have stories, it's stupid."
^This guy especially does not get to comment on anything, ever again.
I'm surprised they said the God of War trilogy was shit. It seems like something that's right up their....oh. That has a STORY doesn't it? Like, y'know, every game released in nearly the last 2 decades.
"Yea video games aren't supposed to have stories, it's stupid."
^This guy especially does not get to comment on anything, ever again.
I don't like fighting games, Naruto, or god of war. I also think the orange box outside of PC is blasphemy.Kanlic said:
The only decent PoP game was the first one in my opinion.
So I pretty much agree with him that soem of your games are shit. But that's the whole point, people don't like the same stuff.
I consider myself a gamer but I don't like the same games as you. (although I'm sure we both like some games that are the same).
I get what you're saying, but I think what it comes down to is that what you like is good, to you. And you don't need to defend gaming to others, if they say it's a kid pastime tell them that you disagree and it's the biggest entertainment industry around worth more than film, music, and print combined (in Australia at least) and if they don't like it they're in the minority.
Funny, considering I don't like to really show off my top ten list, not because of in fear of people saying it's stupid, but I'm nearly 28 years old, and some of the games I feel wouldn't suggest that I am 28.
Still, it seems whenever I bring up every game, everyone I know often suggests "Oh, that's a cool game" and we'll talk about it for five or so minutes. I've come to find that most people are often more lighter in mood than what you think.
From what I gathered, your friend is a game-jock, so thus must have action and no plot,
Still, it seems whenever I bring up every game, everyone I know often suggests "Oh, that's a cool game" and we'll talk about it for five or so minutes. I've come to find that most people are often more lighter in mood than what you think.
From what I gathered, your friend is a game-jock, so thus must have action and no plot,
from both sides (i never knew 40k was that fun) i can say that those guys are understandably ignorant. i'd recommend finding some new friends but dont dump the current ones.
now my story, last year i felt like showing off a personal favourite game of mine to my friends (also gamers) called ar tonelico 2 and was promptly called a pervert for playing an h-game. now these opinions came before them actually watching the game. after they watched it they admitted that whilst VERY suggestive it was not an h-game
now my story, last year i felt like showing off a personal favourite game of mine to my friends (also gamers) called ar tonelico 2 and was promptly called a pervert for playing an h-game. now these opinions came before them actually watching the game. after they watched it they admitted that whilst VERY suggestive it was not an h-game