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Kodlak

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These are all things that have been considered controversial in games at some point or another.
It is said that games containing these, influence and corrupt our younger generation. While others think these are all just used as ploys to be used as selling points. Whereas people ( like myself) just feel it's someone trying to make a decent game, which has been interpretted incorectly.

But what do you think do you think?
Do you feel they are harmful elements when used in game?
Strong influencial materials?
Selling points?
Just a way to make an good game, otherwise nit-picked by people with too much time on their hands? (No offence intended.)

I apologise if this has been done before, but couldn't find anything in the search.

EDIT: Added extra option on poll by request from Darth Mobius.
 

Baby Tea

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I think if it fits the game, the setting and the story, then fine. But if it's there for the sake of being there to sell to teens who think more blood, boobs, and swearing make a game great, then I'm out.
 

Arrers

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That sort of thing is only worthwhile in the right context. for example, extreme violence fits in with BioShock, but would be stupid in a game like Zelda or Banjo-Kazooie.
 

SharPhoe

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There's a time and place for everything, as they say. If it fits in the game's setting/storyline, then that's great, but if it's shoehorned in to make the game "edgy" then no thanks.

Basically, exactly what Baby Tea said.
 

Good morning blues

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It's not all the same. Saving Private Ryan would not work without the violence, whereas the violence in a movie like Hostel is gratuitous and offensive. Same for language and sexuality. They can be exploitation, or they can be art. It's the context that matters.
 

queensbomb

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The violence is usually one of the things I go for, but using language and nudity as a selling point seems desperate. The only use of profanity that I really cared was from Call of Duty 2, because it was the first stage of the D-Day levels and for some reason "Move goddamn you!" really seemed appropriate and necessary.
 

Brotherofwill

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Baby Tea said:
I think if it fits the game, the setting and the story, then fine. But if it's there for the sake of being there to sell to teens who think more blood, boobs, and swearing make a game great, then I'm out.
Yea, same here. I hate games that market these points as their main selling point just so the kiddies get to pretend their testicles have dropped.
If it fits the concept (like Madworld or Smash TV) then great, but don't prostitude your series to have more violence.
 

Onihoshi

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Well Blood Boobs and Language are the things you get in gaming for. and dont even try to deny it :D imagine a game like gta 4 but that you in reality are an accountant for a big corporation and your days are spend buy working standing in traffic and sleeping. that would make for great entertainment. Games are fun because you get from them things you dont experience in real life like two sexy female ninjas with big bouncy boobs fighting each other in a glacier cave (DOA) or just jacking a car and joyriding across town while the cops chase you.

and about the influence and stuff that games destroy kids and all the other shit that is the biggest piece of crap ever :p the guys from the shootouts that are becoming something like an standard event in the U.S. are always so evil and twisted from the games :p never from drugs, alcohol, messed up families, bullies, girls that destroy their lives and just from the fact that there probably were never sane to begin with. I myslef play a lot of violent games where killing is all you do and it relaxes me. the effect on a normal person is quite the opposite than on the fucked up ones. when im mad i play a game and all the killing makes the anger go away. Also the fuss people made bout rapelay was absurd. i have it and its just a different type of entertainment than killing :p but than you dont see me running around streets of London killing random people and stealing their money, cars and desecrating their corpses or raping some innocent girls in dark alleys. Thats what psychos do. :p
 

Eskay

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Onihoshi said:
Well Blood Boobs and Language are the things you get in gaming for. and dont even try to deny it :D imagine a game like gta 4 but that you in reality are an accountant for a big corporation and your days are spend buy working standing in traffic and sleeping. that would make for great entertainment. Games are fun because you get from them things you dont experience in real life like two sexy female ninjas with big bouncy boobs fighting each other in a glacier cave (DOA) or just jacking a car and joyriding across town while the cops chase you.
You'll find a lot of older gamers here will disagree with you here, myself included. 8 bit breasts were never that exciting really. Gaming was in its infancy (Custer's Revenge aside)truly about testing your skill and not about sexy leads and more giblets than an Full English Breakfast. A lot of us got into gaming because we were intrigued by the worlds created within, the challenges presented or the story slowing unfolding.

Problem is as the medium progresses its becoming increasingly like film, dogged by slack jaws who would rather watch Shooty McGorekill in Lesbian Death Tits from Outer Space 5 than have to spend a few minutes considering that dull minutiae such as plot development or empathise with a dilemma.

But to get back on topic, I have no real issue with gore/swearing/nudity, unless they're the sole selling point of a game. In GTA it is to an extent necessary to convey the true grit behind the game world. The real problem here is gratuity, to much desensitises or makes a game little more than fetishism.
 

VincentMm

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Eskay said:
Onihoshi said:
Well Blood Boobs and Language are the things you get in gaming for. and dont even try to deny it :D imagine a game like gta 4 but that you in reality are an accountant for a big corporation and your days are spend buy working standing in traffic and sleeping. that would make for great entertainment. Games are fun because you get from them things you dont experience in real life like two sexy female ninjas with big bouncy boobs fighting each other in a glacier cave (DOA) or just jacking a car and joyriding across town while the cops chase you.
You'll find a lot of older gamers here will disagree with you here, myself included. 8 bit breasts were never that exciting really. Gaming was in its infancy (Custer's Revenge aside)truly about testing your skill and not about sexy leads and more giblets than an Full English Breakfast. A lot of us got into gaming because we were intrigued by the worlds created within, the challenges presented or the story slowing unfolding.

Problem is as the medium progresses its becoming increasingly like film, dogged by slack jaws who would rather watch Shooty McGorekill in Lesbian Death Tits from Outer Space 5 than have to spend a few minutes considering that dull minutiae such as plot development or empathise with a dilemma.

But to get back on topic, I have no real issue with gore/swearing/nudity, unless they're the sole selling point of a game. In GTA it is to an extent necessary to convey the true grit behind the game world. The real problem here is gratuity, to much desensitises or makes a game little more than fetishism.
One hundred percent with you there.
 

Nivag the Owl

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There's nothing wrong with any of these aspects in gaming as they appear in all forms of media. Gaming is just a scapegoat for any unsolved negative scenario.
 

letsnoobtehpwns

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I chose harmful/influential. I don't think all games should be gore fests but I also think that game developers can put bad content in their games if they want.
 

ProfessorLayton

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It's all a matter of perspective. The only reason people are offended by things is because people told us that we should be offended by it. Offensive language doesn't bother me a lot. Nudity doesn't bother me, because COME ON! I mean you see nudity every time you take a shower. Violence doesn't bother me either nor will turn me into a merciless killer.
 

SovietSecrets

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Don't really notice it. If the developer meant language, nudity, and violence to be part of their game, then let it be there.
 

sky14kemea

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MaxTheReaper said:
Baby Tea said:
I think if it fits the game, the setting and the story, then fine. But if it's there for the sake of being there to sell to teens who think more blood, boobs, and swearing make a game great, then I'm out.
Thanks for stealing my words.
Jerk.
I don't mind any of these things in a mature game, but a game that thinks it's mature just because the script reads "fuck shit **** whore ***** fuck fuck shit damn hell fuck" and the box art features scantily clad women as a major selling point is not a game I'd enjoy.
thanks for stealing my quote...
XD just kidding, although i agree with these guys too
 

Matronadena

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okay if this runs long Im sorry...

Im not too bothered by it when it's in a proper context, or rather appropriate for the story being told.

why I say it as this comes to me like this...


Humanity is naturally fucked up, always has been...until very recently sex, violence, suffering in ways NONE of us alive today can understand was the norm.. a small child witnessed members of his family/village/clan/tribe drop dead daily from various illnesses, famine, and battle...having to thmselves dress the wounds of warriors or help prepare burials, very often went into the battles themselves depending on their age.... move up the time frame to early/mid industrial revolution and many of the conditions still were prominent, but now you had mobs of children working in large factories, where more often then not the kid at the station next to him would get caught up in the machine and ripped to shreds...

Lately, and by that I mean only the last 40, 50 years or so life in general has tamed down to levels unheard of...you hear so many complaints of war, and violence, but in reality the last few decades have been some of the most peaceful our species has ever seen...and with that came a odd side effect of people turning a blind eye to nature, living in a happy little haze.

Which in many ways sounds quite nice...but it also developed to the point where people now have harder and harder times being able to just deal with life, it's up's and down's emotional and mental strength plummeting. Now Im not saying everyone is like this but it seems to be something becoming more and more common " more so in first world nations where we have been pretty pampered "

games, movies, books that do exhibit the darker side of humanity I think do have a place to remind us of how life really can be... This in no means says we need to look at it and love it, nor does it mean we need to emulate it, not saying that you should take it and start to fear..." because in reality it's always been there, just you've chosen/protected from seeing it)...but it is there to remind us of what we can be.

That said, As a parent I prefer my sons to be exposed to as many facets in life and situations as I can, to allow them to learn to cope, and deal with the strains of life mentally and emotionally, for them to understand " even in a dramatized way" what can be out there. I also make it a point to actually talk with them about it and such to help them better understand why many of the choices leading to a violent life, or what not is not a wise path, and make sure they see the major fall outs " which sometimes do- sometimes dont get properly shown in a game/movie/book"

My 8 year old plays anything I play, things like ME were fine, as they gave him the chances to make choices right or wrong and see " some" fall out, I even let him play saints row 2 " which actually pissed him off, because as he puts it- why should they be rewarded for being scum" he understood and respected the getting rid of the corrupt ultor, and cleaning out other gangs, but putting innocents into the path upset him, having to kill cops upset him...and he began playing the game in a way I thought pretty proudly was a bright move for his age..

" he drove sanely, doing traffic stops if it was impossible to swerve around a line.. he did his very best to avoid bringing innocents into the line of fire, tried to keep his police notoriety down as much as he could, if they were in chase, he would shoot out the tires as to not need to actually kill anyone other than the target..

and when the game was over and done with, he was able to walk away from it having had fun... but knowing it was just a game, KNOWING that a life such as that of the saints " playah" was in reality much much more dangerous, and far less realistic.

basically, I think what Im getting at is his maturity, and ability to rationalize what he see's and hears is a major factor in his exposure to things like that.... My 3 year old does not get to do things like that yet, he's still playing lego games or simple racing games, or plays capture the flag on my old Jedi Academy game... but he also has a temper, and attitude that will have me limiting his exposure to content like that until he's older, or shapes up his personality as it is now...