Poll: One Billion

[YouEatLard]

Silly U.K... making up their own numbers.

 

[Xyliss]

Um... no?
1 Billion = 1,000,000,000
1,000 x 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000
1,000,000 x 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000,000

So... A better question is, why is UK bad at math?

So I assume your American. We're not bad at maths, we just have different definitions. Not that either one is more correct (from what I can gather), it just depends who you're talking to. Personally I (begrudgingly) think the American way seems more logical and is used more than the British version

Swing and a miss.
Personally, I think a billion is 1,000,000,000, which is 1,000 x 1,000,000
No matter how you say it, you can't argue with maths.
I wanna meet the person that coined "a billion is a million millions" and slap them.
It might just be an expression, basically saying "HOLY SHIT A BILLION IS ALOT!", but it is still retarded.

Like saying:
"The UK version is a hundred hundreds is a thousand"
"The US version is ten hundreds is a thousand"
(if you are unclear by this definition, it is the exact same as this thread's original post, it is just reduced)

The difference between those two is simple.
One can be seen as an expression, meaning "wow, that is a lot", or just retarded pseudo-math
The other can be seen as the definition of what that number is.

Not quite, they are both definitions of what a billion is. Just because one of them is a lot bigger does not mean they just said "wow, that is a lot" and guessed like you're inferring. Also you saying "personally, I think..." and then saying that what you said is a fact is wrong. It is either a fact or an opinion, what you have there is an opinion but seem too narrow minded to see that the word has more than one meaning

 

[RamirezDoEverything]

I live in the Us and ive always een it as 1000 million.

Strange...

 

[^=ash=^]

I live in the UK and to me it's always been 1 000 000 000 .. however the European way does make more sense to me as pointed out with the bi-million definition etc.

 

[Levi93]

I always though 1 billion was 1,000,000 x 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000,000

Not 1,000 x 1,000,000 because that = one thousand million.

 

[ultimateownage]

The American billion is the only thing I think is okay as the American version. Everything else America changes is retarded, and really so would this if I hadn't gotten used to it.

 

[Zaverexus]

every three digits changes the name.
hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, Nonillion, Decillion, Undecillion, Duodecillion, and on and on.
It's all Latin.

 

[maninahat]

You think that's crazy? Go to China or India, and you'll find they do big numbers in groups of four, producing numbesr that look like this: 1,00,00,000 etc, as opposed to 10,000,000). Look up the Indian "Crore".

I like a million millions being a billion, but the change to the American sytem is sensible. If you think 1000 million=1 billion is wrong, then why are you okay with 10 hundreds making 1000? Shouldn't you want it to be 100 hundreds?

100 hundreds.

...100 hundreds.

100 hundreds?

So you had 9 hundreds, up to 999. What the fuck would come next?

Besides, this thread is not about why there aren't a thousand tens, or a bajillion hundreds or an infinity of thousands. It's just about the definition of (one) billion.

Oh, and by the way, I'm curious. What do the British call a one followed by nine zeroes, then?

EDIT: Also...DEM INDIANS.

Nine zeros would make it one thousand million.

 

[Korten12]

every three digits changes the name.
hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, Nonillion, Decillion, Undecillion, Duodecillion, and on and on.
It's all Latin.

Exactly, I agree with this guy.

 

[Rayansaki]

I prefer Billion to be a million million because after all, that's a stupid thing to say, so it needs a word, wheres with the other, why can't I just say a thousand million the same way as if I were to say a hundred million?

Its not stupid to say, because in neither of the 2 standards do you ever say "million millions". In US way, that's 1 trillion, and in UK way that's 1 billion.

The US way (works the same way in my country and most of the world), is actually more practical, because you never say something like "A hundred thousand millions", but rather a hundred billions. Any number after a thousand millions (1000.000.000) takes one more word to say in the UK way.

 

[fatmrbunko]

sorry man but now in the UK 1billion is 1thousand miilion now and has been for around 3ish years i believe

 

[Tokkobot]

every three digits changes the name.
hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion, octillion, Nonillion, Decillion, Undecillion, Duodecillion, and on and on.
It's all Latin.

Exactly, I agree with this guy.

hunder, thousand, million, milliard, billion, billiard...
In the end it just seems like the other system ditches the "-liards" and just keeps the "-lions". I guess it makes sense after all.

 

[Verlander]

The UK way makes more sense

Ten
One Hundred
One Thousand
Ten Thousand
Hundred Thousand
One Million
Ten Million
Hundred Million
Thousand Million
Billion
etc etc etc

Or, if you use letters, it comes out like this a, b, c, ac, bc, d, ad, bd, cd, e, ae, be, ce, de, f, etc, the beautiful symmetry of which is sadly missing in the American version

Not only does it make more sense mathematically, but also would reduce the amount of billionaires in the world. However in most terms, the US definition is used, because Maths and too many words confuses people.

 

[Eumersian]

I had heard of the mysterious "milliard" (thousand million), but I thought it was a dead concept at this point. I always knew a million as 1,000,000 and a billion as 1,000,000,000. So a milliard would be a billion, but nobody that I know of uses that term anyway.

But just in case someone does, I'll know what they mean.

 

[Torrasque]

Um... no?
1 Billion = 1,000,000,000
1,000 x 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000
1,000,000 x 1,000,000 = 1,000,000,000,000

So... A better question is, why is UK bad at math?

So I assume your American. We're not bad at maths, we just have different definitions. Not that either one is more correct (from what I can gather), it just depends who you're talking to. Personally I (begrudgingly) think the American way seems more logical and is used more than the British version

Swing and a miss.
Personally, I think a billion is 1,000,000,000, which is 1,000 x 1,000,000
No matter how you say it, you can't argue with maths.
I wanna meet the person that coined "a billion is a million millions" and slap them.
It might just be an expression, basically saying "HOLY SHIT A BILLION IS ALOT!", but it is still retarded.

Like saying:
"The UK version is a hundred hundreds is a thousand"
"The US version is ten hundreds is a thousand"
(if you are unclear by this definition, it is the exact same as this thread's original post, it is just reduced)

The difference between those two is simple.
One can be seen as an expression, meaning "wow, that is a lot", or just retarded pseudo-math
The other can be seen as the definition of what that number is.

Not quite, they are both definitions of what a billion is. Just because one of them is a lot bigger does not mean they just said "wow, that is a lot" and guessed like you're inferring. Also you saying "personally, I think..." and then saying that what you said is a fact is wrong. It is either a fact or an opinion, what you have there is an opinion but seem too narrow minded to see that the word has more than one meaning

This thread has just made me curious as to what the fuck other "modifications" to math the UK has done.
Does the UK trillion have 28 zeroes?
Does the UK thousand have 2 zeroes?
Does the UK google have 89 zeroes?

 

[Lazzi]

I prefer Billion to be a million million because after all, that's a stupid thing to say, so it needs a word, wheres with the other, why can't I just say a thousand million the same way as if I were to say a hundred million?

Becuase a million million is a trillion.


its goes

*million
*billion
*trillion
*quadrillion
*pentillion
*hextiollion
*septillion
*octillion
*and ect...

 

[Daveman]

Regardless of who uses what billion, everyone in maths and in newspapers (so if you see the huge government bailouts that are in billions) and just generally around the world uses 1,000,000,000 as a billion. It just is and there's no arguing. Although I do agree that 1,000,000,000,000 does make more sense to me. After all we have "ten thousand" and "one hundred thousand" then only at what would be "one thousand thousand" does it step it up. Although the counter argument is that we have "thousands" instead of "10 hundred" not "a hundred hundred"... Basically the whole system is retarded.

 

[bak00777]

one thousand million, it just makes sense.

 

[Daveman]

Or, if you use letters, it comes out like this a, b, c, ac, bc, d, ad, bd, cd, e, ae, be, ce, de, f, etc, the beautiful symmetry of which is sadly missing in the American version

Yeah but for that system to work you're missing "ab". Basically both sides have their arguments.

 

[Verlander]

Or, if you use letters, it comes out like this a, b, c, ac, bc, d, ad, bd, cd, e, ae, be, ce, de, f, etc, the beautiful symmetry of which is sadly missing in the American version

Yeah but for that system to work you're missing "ab". Basically both sides have their arguments.

I guess you could use 1 as being a, and ab would also be c, but you're right. I think it works out that mathematically the UK one is better, but linguistically the US one is better