Poll: Opinion on animal abusers
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Ugh. I do think that the punishment, from a legal standpoint, was just, since they can no longer own any pets. It could have down with more financial punishments.
That said, I wish someone would have beat the shit out of them before the law took over. They are worthless scum.
That said, I wish someone would have beat the shit out of them before the law took over. They are worthless scum.
You've overturned my ignorance good sir. Thank you.Rawne1980 said:
Hrmmm... my previous opinions on the subject may be a bit flawed...
Legally, it was fair enough, but I hope they live with every shred of guilt that they deserve for the rest of their lives. The image of that poor dog burned into the every moment of their memories. I can't believe the stupidity and neglect they exhibited, it's a true show of their incapability as pet owners, and partly as human beings. There should have no doubt been a point within that month when trying to feed the dog showed no signs of helping and the dog continued to lose weight where the owners felt the need to see the vet. It shouldn't have taken a month if the dog lost that much weight. I don't feel that the punishment was right or wrong, it was fair, and that's all I can go to say, at least they were trying to feed the dog, the situation in Detroit with all the animals starving and without homes here, it's pretty bad. I just wish this one didn't have to suffer, the owners failed, and they deserve the punishment, though handing them a few weeks in jail would have been nice to see.
Who are the 4 sick bastards that said "They should not have been punished?"
It was a fair punishment, and deserved it. Animals deserve to be treated properly. If you're not going to do that, don't have a pet.
It was a fair punishment, and deserved it. Animals deserve to be treated properly. If you're not going to do that, don't have a pet.
No, not nearly enough. I think abusing an animal is just as bad as abusing a child. Both of those things look to you as their only source of care in the world, to abuse something so powerless and completely under your control is one of the greatest sins a man can commit. Certainly worse than robbery. They should go to prison. Hard time.
Well they didn't just kill the dog, they tortured it. Slow and brutal. This at the very least warrants actual jail time, not a suspended sentence.
Nobody should starve to death, forced to eat garbage out of pure desperation. They should get the same punishment you would for doing this to any human. And don't come at me with "it's just an animal". A dog can feel pain just as much as we can, they can emote and they each have a unique personality. The fact that we're smarter doesn't make us better, it makes us more responsible.
A pet is incapable of getting food on it's own, if you are willing to take an animal into your home then it is your duty as a human to provide for that animals basic needs:Food, shelter, attention. There is no excuse for letting a pet starve, if you can't take care of one then give it to a shelter.
I have a large number of pets (cat, dogs, parrot) and I look at them the same way I would a child. The same basic principles apply, they are both helpless beings and you need to constantly be prepared to step in and help should something come up.
Nobody should starve to death, forced to eat garbage out of pure desperation. They should get the same punishment you would for doing this to any human. And don't come at me with "it's just an animal". A dog can feel pain just as much as we can, they can emote and they each have a unique personality. The fact that we're smarter doesn't make us better, it makes us more responsible.
A pet is incapable of getting food on it's own, if you are willing to take an animal into your home then it is your duty as a human to provide for that animals basic needs:Food, shelter, attention. There is no excuse for letting a pet starve, if you can't take care of one then give it to a shelter.
I have a large number of pets (cat, dogs, parrot) and I look at them the same way I would a child. The same basic principles apply, they are both helpless beings and you need to constantly be prepared to step in and help should something come up.
As nauseating as this was to me as an animal lover, I have to agree that the sentence was adequate. They were fined, banned from further animal ownership and given a suspended sentence. The facts of the case seem to make appear that they were making a misguided attempt at saving the animal. They failed and never took it to a vet. I don't see any reason to suspect it was a deliberate act of malice. If it was then I would suggest a psych eval in case they had other issues, animal abuse often being a red flag for other crap.
They did not murder a human, they did not destroy property, they did not commit fraud. I like animals but they do not have the same protection under law as people. I am fine with that.
Having said the above, if they are caught again, I would not at all object to a much more serious sentence
They did not murder a human, they did not destroy property, they did not commit fraud. I like animals but they do not have the same protection under law as people. I am fine with that.
Having said the above, if they are caught again, I would not at all object to a much more serious sentence
well, as I read it, maybe I'm wrong, is that they were feeding the dog and trying to take care of it, but the dog had an undiagnosed cancer which fucked up it's digestive system, which led to it's death. I find it weird that the article states that they were sure the dog hasn't been fed in 24 hours, but right after that say the dogs digestive system was erratic. The owners easily could have easily fed the dog in the morning, and when they got back in the evening, it was already dead.Jean Hag said:
It just seems like they didn't make the connection that the dog not getting bigger was a result of sickness. Which, while dumb, was not malicious.
Doubly beaten to it.idarkphoenixi said:
5 Years in jail each.
£10,000 fine each.
Lifetime ban from animal ownership.
If you kill via neglect something sentient and sapient for which you have taken responsibility (if you're over 16), you ought to pay for it. You ought to lose a significant fraction of your one and only life to jail, you ought to be so heavily fined that you feel the crime for almost the rest of it, and you ought never to be allowed to keep pets `or` care for children in the future.
PS: I understand the details of `this` specific case are actually pretty sketchy, but in the hypothetical of genuine neglect the above all stands.
Animal neglect should not be a felony.
Even animal abuse (which is NOT the case here) should not be a felony.
In the United States, where the felony/misdemeanor distinction is still widely applied, the federal government defines a felony as a crime punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.
But, we do punish people for abusing other people....Also by your logic animals and people are the same so why not have equal punishment for abusing either?krazykidd said:
Candidus said:
I agree, and like I have already said I don't think they were punished nearly enough for their crime. I don't understand peoples apathy about this subject, and am glad to see some other people here that feel the way I do.
Prison sentence with a lifelong pet ban? That's fine.
But dear god, that picture! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE A SAINT BERNARD'S RIBS!
But dear god, that picture! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SEE A SAINT BERNARD'S RIBS!