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Drachknouir

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you possibly waited to long to make a move. and she obviously wanted something now rather then a slow relation.
 

Khadath

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Jaedon said:
Well, judging from your response to that guy I'd say then at the very least 'you' yourself have the lack of empathy for people you talk about. Ever think about putting yourself in his shoes, empathising with him? He probably saw you maybe at best acting flirty with her but if it was obvious that she wasn't interested in you, (by the fact that she was kissing him!) then he was the total innocent in the matter and your response was childish and selfish. As for her not picking up on your feelings, well alot are just accustom to guys acting that way around them, can't blame her for not picking up on your emotions if that's the case with her.
Ok you've missed the point of the question.
 

Khadath

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The two of us know we kinda fucked up (I sure as fuck didn't handle it well) but for so many people to get it wrong has me wondering if its a secluded thing or if these kind of mass misunderstandings are happening with other people from my generation, or if it's just something that happens from time to time no matter what generation.
 

Jaedon

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Khadath said:
Jaedon said:
Well, judging from your response to that guy I'd say then at the very least 'you' yourself have the lack of empathy for people you talk about. Ever think about putting yourself in his shoes, empathising with him? He probably saw you maybe at best acting flirty with her but if it was obvious that she wasn't interested in you, (by the fact that she was kissing him!) then he was the total innocent in the matter and your response was childish and selfish. As for her not picking up on your feelings, well alot are just accustom to guys acting that way around them, can't blame her for not picking up on your emotions if that's the case with her.
Ok you've missed the point of the question.
Well, I didn't really, I just didn't spell it out, I mean, you used your problem as an example of why you think that the generation is starting to lose the ability to read each other, so by opposing that by saying it was in fact just you who had seemed to have lost that skill you'd be able to draw your own conclusion. In other words I didn't say my opinion on the matter, just that your example was flawed though oddly enough, quite proving of your question in the way I mentioned.
 

Khadath

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Jaedon said:
Well, I didn't really, I just didn't spell it out, I mean, you used your problem as an example of why you think that the generation is starting to lose the ability to read each other, so by opposing that by saying it was in fact just you who had seemed to have lost that skill you'd be able to draw your own conclusion. In other words I didn't say my opinion on the matter, just that your example was flawed though oddly enough, quite proving of your question in the way I mentioned.
I'm sorry I'm not here to have it all spelt out to me by people who wernt there, nothing personal just I said its not a question about how I handled it or what might have been going through his head or her's, not only the 3 of us fucked up how we were reading but so did about 6 other people, so your "point" isn't relevant to the question, I know I may, I know they may but the question is: Is this something that's becoming more prevalent in my generation or is it something that has always been or is it something that will just happen from time to time? Cause for so many people to be so wrong about reading people is a bit of a shock, I've never seen anything like it.
 

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Khadath said:
Jaedon said:
Well, I didn't really, I just didn't spell it out, I mean, you used your problem as an example of why you think that the generation is starting to lose the ability to read each other, so by opposing that by saying it was in fact just you who had seemed to have lost that skill you'd be able to draw your own conclusion. In other words I didn't say my opinion on the matter, just that your example was flawed though oddly enough, quite proving of your question in the way I mentioned.
I'm sorry I'm not here to have it all spelt out to me by people who wernt there, nothing personal just I said its not a question about how I handled it or what might have been going through his head or her's, not only the 3 of us fucked up how we were reading but so did about 6 other people, so your "point" isn't relevant to the question, I know I may, I know they may but the question is: Is this something that's becoming more prevalent in my generation or is it something that has always been or is it something that will just happen from time to time? Cause for so many people to be so wrong about reading people is a bit of a shock, I've never seen anything like it.
Well, you were using it as an example, was just my opinion that noone was reading each other wrong, I thought it was just you. I don't think that's such an invalid point.

Anyway, I did vote for yes. I think more it's partly that some people are alot harder to read but it may just be increasing due to a dumbed down society and relationships not being as important as they once were to people although I do know of alot of being unable to read people isn't helped by the amount of text communication being done. Case in point, you probably thought I was just trying to call you a jerk in my first response when I never intended that as my point (well, ok, maybe a bit but I hate violence for stupid reasons). Mix that in with normal conversation with that person and it can throw the whole 'how do we actually feel about each other?' out of whack. I don't think it's as different now than before as you seem to think though, just slightly.
 

CapnGod

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You should be clear about what, exactly, your generation is. Or, the more I think about it, the casual painting of everyone on this thread as part of your generation.

As far as social ineptitude, well, it's more of a thing you've got to look at on a case by case basis as opposed to using generalization. If you can't, well, that doesn't mean no one can, and vice versa.
 

Khadath

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Jaedon said:
Well, you were using it as an example, was just my opinion that noone was reading each other wrong, I thought it was just you. I don't think that's such an invalid point.

Anyway, I did vote for yes. I think more it's partly that some people are alot harder to read but it may just be increasing due to a dumbed down society and relationships not being as important as they once were to people although I do know of alot of being unable to read people isn't helped by the amount of text communication being done. Case in point, you probably thought I was just trying to call you a jerk in my first response when I never intended that as my point (well, ok, maybe a bit but I hate violence for stupid reasons). Mix that in with normal conversation with that person and it can throw the whole 'how do we actually feel about each other?' out of whack. I don't think it's as different now than before as you seem to think though, just slightly.
Hmmm I see where your coming from.

Let me make this clear but(to everyone) there was no "fight" I went outside and had at a wall.

But that was it, it wasn't just me reading someone wrong, I hadn't seen so many people read others so poorly before.

It's good to see someone else who thinks that all this digital communication is eroding our social skills, rather than getting their techno nerd suit on and saying it's making it better.
 

Khadath

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CapnGod said:
You should be clear about what, exactly, your generation is. Or, the more I think about it, the casual painting of everyone on this thread as part of your generation.

As far as social ineptitude, well, it's more of a thing you've got to look at on a case by case basis as opposed to using generalization. If you can't, well, that doesn't mean no one can, and vice versa.
well I'm 19 I said that, so throw it 5 to 7 years either side(should have said it earlier sorry).

I'm not making generalizations, I've read about this before and didn't believe it but with what happened I'm interested in knowing if it is something that is happening, has anyone else had a similar experience or is it just a 1 in a million chance that everyone was wrong at the same time about the same thing, cause that just seems like too much of a coincidence to me.
 

CapnGod

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It sounds like a confluence of events that ended up in a perfect shitstorm. But some of it sounded like normal kid cluelessness.

Also, that age range seems... too big. I feel a huge disconnect from most everyone even four years younger. More like two or three, to be completely honest. And most people I write off until they're at least 21. Granted, in here, that might differ, but most around here comport themselves with some level of maturity. Granted, in real life, that could all fly out the window and you'd hear me muttering about stupid kids needing euthanasia or retroactive abortion. Then again, I could just be at the tail end of my generation.
 

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TheCheryl said:
21-25 is "My" generation. The transitioning "Echo Boomers" We're born in the mid 80s and are no longer kids come mid 90s, teenhood spent finishing off the 90s and early 00's. My gen are young adults right now. We're either still in college or finishing it, some of us are married and have kids. Socializing is a combination of phoning, texting via phone or internet, going out to restaurants or bars and hanging out at eachothers' places. We're a grand mix that don't fall into either extreme completely.
Preach it, brother. I hate being put into the same category as the "under twentys." Nothing against them. There's just a big difference.

Yeah, I don't think it's a generational thing. I think it's an age thing. Yes, yes, I realise you're nineteen and an adult and whatnot but seriously, the kind of mental awareness you're talking about may not come around for a few more years yet. Didn't for me. It's a part of "growing up." "Reading" people is a skill that, A. Not everyone has. B. Takes time to master.

Man, I hated it when people talked to me like this when I was your age. Don't take it personally. From ages 20/21 to 24/25, one learns so much. Believe me.
 

Shadow5

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Well, my friends and I never have had any problems communicating and I the only person I ever had trouble communicating with was an Egyptian-American news reader who seemed to be intent on telling me that I was probably too young to be making any contribution to any conversation at that time.
(I was 16 and was being asked the very generic questions about school before he broke off mid-sentence and walked away)
 

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Labyrinth said:
While it may affect some, I've never had that problem. I read people really well if I may say so. Well enough to be scary, apparently. Much of this comes from an inherent understanding of body-language and inflection in the voice. A lot of people would miss this on the basis that much communication now is through text either online or mobile phones.

We're in love with technology. Our Pixel generation will hold that forever because we've grown up with the internet, with instant access and all too much information at our fingertips.
I'm with Laby on this one. I can read people pretty darn well. However what I DO have issues with is reading how other's feel about me, but that's due to my over analysis and self-deprication. E.g. I've had EVERYONE tell me a girl was into me and I didn't pick up on it. I would automatically assume she was just being friendly, then end up in friend land. They would have to be caressing my hair, whispering softly and be overtly sexual for me to say "So hey.. Wanna grab a coffee?"

Yes we are in love with technology but I don't think it has that big of an affect on social reading. Messages can naturally become conveluted especially when it involves intimacy. You're friends are encouraging you and her friends are being wary.
 

awmperry

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I have Asperger. Maybe I read people well, maybe I don't - I can't read them well enough to tell. :p