Poll: PC or Mac

[Hazy992]

Apparently the new MacBook pros have their RAM soldered to the motherboard.

So yeah, fuck those guys.

WTH?! That's just ridiculous! I mean there's being a closed system and then there's that. You could replace it before, why suddenly stop you?

 

[Yadira Rios]

Huum well To all u people out there heres a thought i recently had a convrsation about this to some owner of a company he was letting me know about him buying a new computer i said why not mac n he said "What most people dont understand about this pc vs mac wars is one thing u forget that the majority of Businesses work of a pc so for me to buy a higly expensive computer in which i will not be able to work with other because of the software differences is just plain stupid. (laughed my ass of by this point), so true a PC is bettr in the sense that it is more universal and this is an age were we are being united by technology to buy a mac is like being cut off from the MAJORITY of the world. " so that made me think since i need a new computer but was wanting to change to mac but he was right i dont know what the future holds but i do know that it will include PC specially business wise since there more economic and stuff. So yes i want a mac cuz of all the I stuff BUT its not wise for me to do so since i mingle with different businesses and i do alot of people sharing n the majority have PC so

What will u pick?

Me il stay with PC nad who knows maybe ill buy both just cuz 1 at a time though

So i guess im a PCMac
Hahahahaha

 

[Hazy992]

WTH?! That's just ridiculous! I mean there's being a closed system and then there's that. You could replace it before, why suddenly stop you?

To stop you from buying 8GB for £40 off amazon instead of buying it from Apple who charge about £160.

Fuck that noise! That's a dick move if I ever heard one

 

[Supernova1138]

Yeah, the new Macbooks are the least repairable laptops ever. The RAM is soldered onto the board, and the SSD uses a new Apple proprietary interface to the motherboard so you can't upgrade or replace it yourself. Literally the only thing the new Macbooks have going for them is the ultra high resolution displays, which only introduces other problems like the MacBook not having enough GPU horsepower to drive 3D applications at those resolutions, and making the Internet look like shit because website assets are not made for ultra high res displays like that.

So yeah, the new MacBook just gives me more reason to hate Apple even more.

 

[Wintermoot]

Windows
Mac is over priced (it,s illegal and close to impossible to run Mac OSx on a "normal" PC) and has horrible software support
I also like the ability to upgrade/repair my own stuff instead of everything using proprietary connectors.
although I do like the Mac G5 case.

 

[Wintermoot]

There is no logical reason to go with Macs.

This is coming from someone who typically has to use them on a daily basis (career).

There is now, if you want that gorgeous 2880x1800 display

*drools*

just get a TV it,s probably cheaper then a Mac machine and works with regular computers.

 

[LongAndShort]

I'm a Mac user. My family are all Mac users. I used to be a PC user, being a gamer and all. Then I noticed that my PC barely lasted a year before shitting itself and dying while my family's Mac just kept going and going. We have great luck with Apple products, better than any other technology we've owned.

So Macs are better due to your inability to use a PC?

Nah mate, not saying that. And the PC was about the same price range as my family's Mac (can't remember exactly, it was a few years ago). I don't go into the whole Mac vs PC argument. I'm just saying I have more luck with Macs, so I use them.

 

[Joshimodo]

There is no logical reason to go with Macs.

This is coming from someone who typically has to use them on a daily basis (career).

There is now, if you want that gorgeous 2880x1800 display

*drools*

At 16:10? No thanks.

Besides, while Apple's only major bonus is their monitors, I'd rather save a few thousand quid and get a high-end IPS panel that outperforms it and doesn't have that disgusting and obtrusive gloss all over it. Yeah, I know they can have an anti-glare upgrade, but that's just going in circles.

 

[Deadman Walkin]

Where is the linux option!?!?!?! But PC, because I just like it more.

 

[TpnySmith]

There was none. But I put it in anyway, cos it's my OS of choice .

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

Mac for work, PC for pleasure.

That's the way it is, and it always will be.

 

[angryfish]

I've seen quite a few people in this thread say that Macs are easier to use - does anyone have a specific example? It might just be that I grew up on Windows, but after having had a Macbook in the house for 2 years now (not mine, but I still use it a fair bit), I can't think of anything on a Mac that is easier to use than a Windows counterpart, and many many things that work much worse.

I always prefer Windows, in case you didn't gather.

The way Windows runs always seems far more logical than with the Mac. And I can't shake the feeling that Apple are deliberately making each OS for the Macbook worse than the previous one... Case in point, under Snow Leopard (the previous OS), using the switch between windows command brought up all of your windows in a nice grid, so you could see what each one was, and switch to it. There was also a nice feature where you could choose which programs would show up when you use the switch between windows function, and quickly switch between different groups of these, all arranged in a nice grid. Under Lion (the current OS), using the switch between windows command brings up every program that you have open, but all of the windows within an individual program overlap each other, so if you have more than about 3 windows of any given program, it becomes nigh on impossible to tell what each window is.

Got loads of other issues about Macs too but this'll do for one post.

All that said, I am thinking of getting a Macbook for uni work (I'll be doing illustration), my thinking being that I'll need a laptop either way, and there must be some reason why absolutely every art related person ever uses them :/

 

[bobajob]

Isn't Windows 8 just Windows 7 redesigned for tablets & touchscreens?
If so, what's the problem with sticking with 7 until a viable alternative is developed?
Just wondered.

There have been a lot of "under the hood" improvements between both systems. Windows 8 uses a lot less RAM than Win7, for example, due to tricks like memory combining (reduced memory redundancy by crosslinking sectors) and application-specific hibernation (the program is frozen, its state saved to the disk, and can be reactivated quickly when needed).

Sounds interesting, but kind of redundant on a desktop with 8GB or 16GB or more of RAM?
Another feature that massively benefits portable devices.

For all the XP die-hards, Windows 7 can actually virtually run Win XP(an OS within an OS - Winception!) using one of your cores & 512MB of your RAM;(assuming your comp is less than say, 7 years old) Go Microsoft's website & download Windows Virtual PC, then subsequently the Win XP add-on for that. It's all free.

Comes in handy for dicking around & noticing those subtle differences in the UI for helpdesk peeps.

So, bleh.

 

[Marcus Kehoe]

A $1500 pc> $1500 Mac

Also everything works with pc also.

 

[UrieHusky]

It really depends. For gaming (which I use my PC for) I would choose PC over a Mac any day. But for design and general use? I'd personally use a Mac.

So really I'm indifferent for the most part but as a gamer I would have a PC, I do design as well but the advantages of the mac don't outweigh using the PC for both jobs

 

[TpnySmith]

I received a warning for saying "Linux" and my post was hidden. Man! Some people get really uptight about this stuff.

 

[Joshimodo]

The monitor apple sells are IPS anyway. Well, the cinema display, iMac display and the Macbook Retina Displays are.

I know, I use them every day. Doesn't change the fact they are ridiculously overpriced and ultimately not worth it, especially since Apple are still shipping with that awful gloss coating.

Point is, Dell's IPS is half the price, performs the same. Doesn't have compatibility issues, doesn't have the ridiculous gloss, has better colour reproduction due to lack of gloss and CCFL lighting.

 

[Thaliur]

Personally, for most of my computing purposes, I'd prefer a ratio closer to 3:4 than any of the widescreen ratios out there. I'm not a big media consumer, and as a programmer using Emacs, which has a default line length of 80 characters, and somebody who has to read a lot of PDF files, it would be immeasurably more convenient for me to have a screen height in excess of the width.

As an engineer, I second that opinion, although for different reasons.

I frequently need to read datasheets of devices while planning/constructing things. A two-monitor setup is perfect for this kind of job unless one of them is a frelling Widescreen. You can barely fit a reasonably sized spreadsheet, mindmap or CAD window on those formats, and for reading anything longer than a Tweet (I'm exaggerating), they are useless as well. The only useful application I can think of would be audio editing (because you can see a little more of your timeline) and watching movies. Thw first works pretty much just as well on a proper screen, and for the latter I have a TV set (which is larger, better suited for movies colour- and contrast-wise, and can also be connected to my PC).

Screens that can be rotated for proper portrait format, now these are awesome. If you need a working area, you leave it in landscape, if you need to read/write large volumes of text, you turn it upright and the computer switches it to portrait mode.
As for the retina thing: While I do like higher resolutions, above a certain treshold, I just do not care. From a not-unhealthy working distance, normal-sized pixels are usually not visible individually anyway.

This might come off as really stupid by why don't people just use 1:1?

I mean, we pretty much went with 4:3 and 5:4 out of the gate.

I think it's because the 4:3 format is close to common paper formats and TV screens. They likely are not 1:1 because humans have a slightly oval field of vision, so we have a wider viewing angle horizontally than vertically. I don't know if the screen ratios fit the FOV aspect ratio, but those we use currently are closer to it than 1:1.

 

[BartyMae]

Perhaps it was answered earlier, but why is it that Windows is referred to as "PC"?

Regardless, Windows. It's what I've always used...and what little I used of Macs I didn't care for.

 

[Nexxis]

I prefer PC/Windows because I grew up with it and most of the programs that I use are either exclusively on windows, or the mac support is lacking compared to the Window's support. I had to use a mac for a short time in a class, and I felt so lost and confused by the functionality, I didn't care for it.

**Edit**
I forgot to mention that price is also a determining factor for me. Macs are too expensive for my taste.