Poll: Pirating
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Guhh, if I can't find a game ANYWHERE (I import so that even covers getting japan exclusives) or it is unavailable to me I have a tendency to download it but I have a rule for it, only if it is discontinued and at least 5 years old.
Wait, so there is such a thing as legal pirating? But seriously, I only pirate the things that online retailers apparently don't want to sell to me or they would have had digital copies listed for a reasonable price - there's no way in hell I'm paying $50 for an imported album when other albums by the same damn artist are available digitally for $8 from the same website.
I don't feel bad at all about the handful of albums I've pirated, because I've purchased 83 albums in less than a year, and I would have happily bought the rest.
Now games or movies, there I've never pirated anything, though I've had to break copy protection or use CD keys I found online to get a few of the games I purchased at retail to work properly. Which is bloody ironic.
I don't feel bad at all about the handful of albums I've pirated, because I've purchased 83 albums in less than a year, and I would have happily bought the rest.
Now games or movies, there I've never pirated anything, though I've had to break copy protection or use CD keys I found online to get a few of the games I purchased at retail to work properly. Which is bloody ironic.
Pirating is illegal, full stop. Stop trying to make excuses because their aren't any. Products which are unlicensed or on an old license and no longer produced can be slightly excused...
But an overpriced game or a company that has wronged you? No, what you are doing is wrong and illegal, if you can't come to terms with the fact that what you are doing is completely wrong don't pirate, the end. The industry is by large part being destroyed by people with an incredible ability to justify these things to themselves.
Somehow people even seem to act as if it is their right to pirate video games. It isn't.
Me personally? Video games, movies, music. I'm a bastard but I'm not going to hide behind any lie or pretend what I'm doing is right. I know it's wrong and against the law, but so is the speed I do in my car down the freeway and I'm not going to pretend I have a right to speed, nor did I have a right to drink alcohol underage. Yes I break the law and I'm not going to sugar coat it and neither should anybody else, if they can't deal with the reality of it they shouldn't do it and the world will benefit.
But an overpriced game or a company that has wronged you? No, what you are doing is wrong and illegal, if you can't come to terms with the fact that what you are doing is completely wrong don't pirate, the end. The industry is by large part being destroyed by people with an incredible ability to justify these things to themselves.
Somehow people even seem to act as if it is their right to pirate video games. It isn't.
Me personally? Video games, movies, music. I'm a bastard but I'm not going to hide behind any lie or pretend what I'm doing is right. I know it's wrong and against the law, but so is the speed I do in my car down the freeway and I'm not going to pretend I have a right to speed, nor did I have a right to drink alcohol underage. Yes I break the law and I'm not going to sugar coat it and neither should anybody else, if they can't deal with the reality of it they shouldn't do it and the world will benefit.
I did at one stage. I never pirated games but music was my general target, any software I needed for a course was usually given out at school/college so there was no need there. I now just buy most of my music, but only after listening to it on Youtube, films I only watch on TV or at the cinema as it is (Woo Sky films).
I typically do it for games that are no longer available, cost obscene amounts of money, or that are not released yet (through the right sites you can get new games early.) If I like the game, I buy it. As it stands, I haven't had much to buy lately with all the copy-paste games out lately.
I pirate a lot of stuff, but I buy a lot too.
In the end, in my mind it goes as this: I could spend 150 bucks a month on entertainment, and pirate an additional 150, or I could spend 150 bucks and pirate nothing.
In the end, the record labels, movie studios, game companies would get the same, except I would only get half the entertainment, and wouldn't ever experience the other 50%. Do I have the right to experience those 50% I haven't paid for? Probably not, but if I didn't, I would never spend any money on future stuff from the same directors/musicians/editors.
That means that if I hadn't pirated that Half-Life game when it came out, I would never have bought the second one, and would probably have spent that money on another game by a company that has 500% more funds for advertising.
That means be locked in endless franchises like Call of Duty, Mario, Zelda, and Super Hero movies, because they are more of a "sure thing", and never spend any money on more obscure, but greater things.
This is even more accentuated in music, where you would probably only know the bands that play at local radio stations or that are very popular on media and youtube, and never discover more experimental and unknown stuff, like one of my favorite bands, Genghis Tron.
In the end, in my mind it goes as this: I could spend 150 bucks a month on entertainment, and pirate an additional 150, or I could spend 150 bucks and pirate nothing.
In the end, the record labels, movie studios, game companies would get the same, except I would only get half the entertainment, and wouldn't ever experience the other 50%. Do I have the right to experience those 50% I haven't paid for? Probably not, but if I didn't, I would never spend any money on future stuff from the same directors/musicians/editors.
That means that if I hadn't pirated that Half-Life game when it came out, I would never have bought the second one, and would probably have spent that money on another game by a company that has 500% more funds for advertising.
That means be locked in endless franchises like Call of Duty, Mario, Zelda, and Super Hero movies, because they are more of a "sure thing", and never spend any money on more obscure, but greater things.
This is even more accentuated in music, where you would probably only know the bands that play at local radio stations or that are very popular on media and youtube, and never discover more experimental and unknown stuff, like one of my favorite bands, Genghis Tron.
I have mixed feelings about this. I do it but on things that are old enough to not matter (5 year old movies that have all their good revenue already) or shows that don't get aired in my region. However, I do like to buy things since it encourages certain things like artists and games.
I hate piracy so much. Stealing from other people is just plain wrong. It doesn't matter if other people are still paying for the product. It doesn't matter how easy it is to pirate something without getting caught. None of this justifies the act of piracy even remotely. I very rarely see good justification for any form of piracy.
So yeah, as you probably guessed I don't pirate anything. Even thinking about doing so makes me feel incredibly selfish, and I hate that feeling. I'm actually surprised and somewhat appalled by the number of people who have no problem with piracy.
So yeah, as you probably guessed I don't pirate anything. Even thinking about doing so makes me feel incredibly selfish, and I hate that feeling. I'm actually surprised and somewhat appalled by the number of people who have no problem with piracy.
No. It IS black and white. You are taking something without paying for it. Speaking as someone who owns and has owned intellectual property, I can tell you that any warm fuzzy feeling I may get from people wanting to read it/see it is MORE than offset by the notion that those same people feel I'm not entitled to any compensation for my work or their entertainment.ZerOmega said:
They can all go rot in a hole as far as I'm concerned.
Piracy is mostly wrong, but it shades towards gray quite a bit.
Imagine you buy a PC game, but it doesn't work on your PC. You can't take it back, even though what you're really buying (the right to play the game) is effectively broken. There's no demo, so the only way to know that it'll work is to pirate it before you buy. So, it's reasonable to test out a game this way, but if you're playing more than a couple hours, then I'd count it as less testing and more stealing.
The only other time piracy can be alright is when you use it to get something that is otherwise unavailable. The door on this is closing these days, though, as companies realize that all that dusty junk they've been sitting on is actually heaped treasure ready for mining. X-Com isn't unavailable anymore, neither is Might and Magic or Duke Nukem. There's little reason to pirate because of unavailability, especially the more popular titles. Star Wars: Rebellion, on the other hand...
Imagine you buy a PC game, but it doesn't work on your PC. You can't take it back, even though what you're really buying (the right to play the game) is effectively broken. There's no demo, so the only way to know that it'll work is to pirate it before you buy. So, it's reasonable to test out a game this way, but if you're playing more than a couple hours, then I'd count it as less testing and more stealing.
The only other time piracy can be alright is when you use it to get something that is otherwise unavailable. The door on this is closing these days, though, as companies realize that all that dusty junk they've been sitting on is actually heaped treasure ready for mining. X-Com isn't unavailable anymore, neither is Might and Magic or Duke Nukem. There's little reason to pirate because of unavailability, especially the more popular titles. Star Wars: Rebellion, on the other hand...
I only pirate if there's no demo or I'm not sure a game would work on my computer. I also have no problem downloading something that's ancient and companies aren't profiting off of anymore. But I would never just pirate something brand new just because I'm too tight-clenched to buy it.
Well, folks, if you somehow read my post and didn't get what I was hinting at - this is it.Zeromaeus said:
The fact that more people play Mother 3 on a ROM instead of the cartridge tells you how much it's wanted outside of Japan.
Of course, I still bought a copy (Or two,) so it's not like I'm completely stealing from the company and leading up to it's demise.