Poll: Pluto, is it still a planet?
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i don't really believe its a planet. if it is than that means we should count the other objects in the same area as Pluto as planets too. i'm talking about Eris and sedena (i believe that's their names)there all around the same size
I suppose you could also say it's a "dwarf" planet.
I suppose you could also say it's a "dwarf" planet.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet... Oh, and how could I forget... scientist did all these tests on bumble bees, looking at the size of their wings, their body eight, and everything... And they came to the conclusion that it is physically impossible for bumble bees to fly...vivaldiscool said:
Pluto will always have a place in my heart because it was my second favorite planet growing up (I used to be obsessed with space) because I associated it with the dog Pluto (my favorite Disney character). So call that silly if you like, but I still consider Pluto a planet.
and in 60 years time when they reclassify it as a heebyjeeby, they will say we dont know as much as they will. Just saying, dont take everything scientists say as gospel (a nice wee comment that should annoy both spiritualists and aetheists (Y))Cargando said:NVM, but we didn't know as much then as we do know. Obviously, if we did know as much as we do know now, then they wouldn't have classified it as a planet.kaziard said:im sorry i should have been more clear, the round world thing was a third seperate argument, it should have been:Cargando said:Actually people have believed the Earth is round since before Columbus, it's an extremely common mistake.kaziard said:they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)vivaldiscool said:
just saying "the scientists" arnt always right
they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and, finally, the world is round
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There. Note the sizes of the dwarf planets. Mercury, is larger than them, (if the distances were to scale, your screen'd have to be about a fields' length). Anyway, Pluto has NOT cleared it's orbit of debris, therefore it not a planet.
There. Note the sizes of the dwarf planets. Mercury, is larger than them, (if the distances were to scale, your screen'd have to be about a fields' length). Anyway, Pluto has NOT cleared it's orbit of debris, therefore it not a planet.
The scientists say it isn't, so I agree.
Besides, there is also evidence suggesting that there are many dwarf planets like Pluto... almost like an Asteroid belt. Considering its smaller than our own moon, (even though it is larger than most moons for a planet our size) I don't think Pluto should count as a planet.
Besides, there is also evidence suggesting that there are many dwarf planets like Pluto... almost like an Asteroid belt. Considering its smaller than our own moon, (even though it is larger than most moons for a planet our size) I don't think Pluto should count as a planet.
Can I choose the option of 'both'?
I can see both sides of the argument, and officially it's not classified as a planet anymore, however with the roman god naming system, I can't really ignore it either.
I can see both sides of the argument, and officially it's not classified as a planet anymore, however with the roman god naming system, I can't really ignore it either.
Its oblivious a plot by those damn plutonians, don't believe there lies they want you to ignore pluto so they can build there fleet of invincible teapots!!!arghaaaaa
To be fair, with the bees you've picked an annoying one there. As to the the gas-planet, what did you think Saturn and Jupiter were? Global Warming is happening, and the bloke who predicted the 70's ice age was one of those Doomsday nutjobs.Assassin Xaero said:
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As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since they only changed the faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.kaziard said:they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)vivaldiscool said:
just saying "the scientists" arnt always right
For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
Always? You mean, like before it was discovered?Avykins said:
Only recently they have noticed that it's not really a planet.
Also, Earth was "always" considered FLAT a long, long time ago. Then why did they stopped thinking this way? Because they've learned the facts, and so should you.
Dwarf planets do not count as planets. You might count some big moons as planets, but it doesn't make them so.Rebelhobnob said:
I realise that, it's just that I'm arguing against people calling it a planet just because it's more convenient.vivaldiscool said:Assassin Xaero said:As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since the only changed that faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.kaziard said:they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)vivaldiscool said:
just saying "the scientists" arnt always right
For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
It's really not a full planet. It's orbit is eccentric, not on the same plane as the other planets and passes through Neptune's orbit. It has a moon and a very very thin atmosphere, but really, Charon is almost the same size as Pluto so they actually orbit each other.
If Pluto was in the asteroid belt with Charon, and it had a normal orbit, we'd probably consider it a planetoid.
We really didn't have a classification that we all agreed upon until recently so we called it a planet. Now its a dwarf planet, and that's due in part to the fact that we've found other dwarf planets like Eris and Ceres.
Eris is bigger than Pluto and even has its own moon. Its the find that made us define planet and its why we now have the term dwarf planet.
If Pluto was in the asteroid belt with Charon, and it had a normal orbit, we'd probably consider it a planetoid.
We really didn't have a classification that we all agreed upon until recently so we called it a planet. Now its a dwarf planet, and that's due in part to the fact that we've found other dwarf planets like Eris and Ceres.
Eris is bigger than Pluto and even has its own moon. Its the find that made us define planet and its why we now have the term dwarf planet.