Poll: Politicly Correct my A**

[Frotality]

we should working to oust irrationally taking offense, not cater to it.

one of the biggest problems of human society is the massive degree of which its stuck up its own ass; the sooner we stop trying to appease the 5% of people that take offense of words instead of intent, the sooner they go away; the more we submit ourselves to stupidity, the more prevalent it will become.

Here is how politically correctness works... If your a white guy, and speak to a person of the other race that might be mildly insulting, your racist... The same goes for if you argue with someone of the other race, it's because you hate their race and not the individual..


Honestly these days, racism is thought as "Insulting someone of the other race" instead of "Insulting someone BECAUSE they're the other race."

exactly the kind of irrational offense political correctness creates; PC is meant to avoid these kinds of situations, when in fact PC is the self-fulfilling prophecy that creates them.

 

[ultrachicken]

No. I never got how politically correct statements every did anything outside of politics...

For teachers, it's important to be politically correct so that none of the students feel outcast (at least at a young age).

 

[Calderon0311]

I'm 150% for Political Correctness since It gives me a reason to be a complete /b/tard when I get home from work.

 

[OrokuSaki]

Political correctness as a whole is nonsense. Even in moderation you're essentially trying to censor a persons speech as they speak. And sure, people may find certain phrases slanderous or offensive. But they need to grow a pair and keep it to themselves. Not to say that people should replace African American or Black with the dreaded "N-Word" but short of that where is the harm in saying that someone is brown (note that calling them black is TECHNICALLY incorrect as well as politically correct because they're actually not black). And honestly, even when you do say "I'm sorry but you African American son appears to be mentally handicapped as well as physically handy-capable and vertically challenged." Aren't you still in your head thinking "Your black midget cripple is a retard"? So it's really not solving anything.

 

[Anarchemitis]

Legalese is for courtrooms.

 

[SideburnsPuppy]

This sounds exactly like Politically Correct Bedtime Stories. Are you sure this Maggio wommon is being serious?

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

Freedom of speech is idiotic. Political correctness, equally so.
Words can hurt, and should be moderated, if only by common sense. There is nothing to be gained by giving people the right to slander or make inflammatory remarks.
On the other hand, the government has no right or purpose whatsoever to dictate right and wrong in any context, including words and opinions.
The more we care about the use of a word like black, the more we emphasise the difference between white and black people. The more we emphasise it, the more we talk about groups, rather than individuals.

Also, fat people deserve it. Like alcoholics.

Well thanks for the comment about fat people. And alcholics. Are you either? Do you have any idea of what might happen to encourage a person to beome either? No? Then be quiet.

I'm not saying you can't call someone fat, or an alcoholic, but to imply that their feelings don't count because of a condition that may or may not be their fault, is unfair and cruel.

 

[jamradar]

I dont know exactly who said it but some guy who was working on Postal 2 said:

"I'm just exercising my first amendment rights you fucking communist".

That is pretty much my stance on this.

 

[jamradar]

Double post.

 

[thedoclc]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

yeah, they should be like the rightist and just try and enslave and kill, sigh, what is the world coming to

Or, like both, set up straw-men which they bash with smug abandon.

 

[harv3034]

I'm 150% for Political Correctness since It gives me a reason to be a complete /b/tard when I get home from work.

that's the only good Pro P.C. argument I can think of

This sounds exactly like Politically Correct Bedtime Stories. Are you sure this Maggio wommon is being serious?

yeah she's serious
(seriously stuck up her our politicly correct ass)

I dont know exactly who said it but some guy who was working on Postal 2 said:

"I'm just exercising my first amendment rights you fucking communist".

That is pretty much my stance on this.

PERFECT!!!!!!!

 

[guntotingtomcat]

Freedom of speech is idiotic. Political correctness, equally so.
Words can hurt, and should be moderated, if only by common sense. There is nothing to be gained by giving people the right to slander or make inflammatory remarks.
On the other hand, the government has no right or purpose whatsoever to dictate right and wrong in any context, including words and opinions.
The more we care about the use of a word like black, the more we emphasise the difference between white and black people. The more we emphasise it, the more we talk about groups, rather than individuals.

Also, fat people deserve it. Like alcoholics.

Well thanks for the comment about fat people. And alcholics. Are you either? Do you have any idea of what might happen to encourage a person to beome either? No? Then be quiet.

I'm not saying you can't call someone fat, or an alcoholic, but to imply that their feelings don't count because of a condition that may or may not be their fault, is unfair and cruel.

In the vast majority of cases, neither are a condition. It's the fault of a bad lifestyle. And both are an unnecessary drain on the health service. What's unfair is that fat people don't pay for the treatment that they need by making themselves fat. I would never encourage either. In fact I would strongly discourage both. Am I either? No. Why? Because I care about my health and, thankfully, I'n not afflicted with mental illness. For those who do struggle with alcoholism or obesity caused by depression, my heart goes out to you. To those who are just fat or drunkards, get a life and, when you find you need an organ, don't bother joining the queue, in case you get priority over someone who deserves a second chance.

 

[RaphaelsRedemption]

Freedom of speech is idiotic. Political correctness, equally so.
Words can hurt, and should be moderated, if only by common sense. There is nothing to be gained by giving people the right to slander or make inflammatory remarks.
On the other hand, the government has no right or purpose whatsoever to dictate right and wrong in any context, including words and opinions.
The more we care about the use of a word like black, the more we emphasise the difference between white and black people. The more we emphasise it, the more we talk about groups, rather than individuals.

Also, fat people deserve it. Like alcoholics.

Well thanks for the comment about fat people. And alcholics. Are you either? Do you have any idea of what might happen to encourage a person to beome either? No? Then be quiet.

I'm not saying you can't call someone fat, or an alcoholic, but to imply that their feelings don't count because of a condition that may or may not be their fault, is unfair and cruel.

In the vast majority of cases, neither are a condition. It's the fault of a bad lifestyle. And both are an unnecessary drain on the health service. What's unfair is that fat people don't pay for the treatment that they need by making themselves fat. I would never encourage either. In fact I would strongly discourage both. Am I either? No. Why? Because I care about my health and, thankfully, I'n not afflicted with mental illness. For those who do struggle with alcoholism or obesity caused by depression, my heart goes out to you. To those who are just fat or drunkards, get a life and, when you find you need an organ, don't bother joining the queue, in case you get priority over someone who deserves a second chance.

Look, as far as I can tell, you are upset that people can harm their health deliberately, and then expect the pblic health system to carry them and fix their problems. Yes?

Thanks for clarifiying. I actually have bipolar disorder, a condition that requires me to take several different medications. One side effect is weight gain. Now I try to manage this. I watch every meal. I box, I run, I swim and have a personal trainer. But I've still put on 15 kilos in a year.

The reason I called you out on that first comment is simply that my heart breaks when fat people are derided. There are so many causes, not just mental illness. Medications, metabolism, emotional issues and even poverty play a part. I know I die a little inside every time someone (and it happens quite a lot) makes a comment about my weight. I can only imagine what it does to other people with weight problems.

I get what you're saying, but I do think you are not helping. Since when has deriding people been a good way to motivate them? If you really wanted people to take responsibility for their health and lives, would you be sneering at them? Because, yes, some people are just friggin lazy. But I can guarantee most people would love to be thin, even if it just meant that they could fit in and stop being laughed at.

I know this is off topic, but I do think this ties into the political correctness debate. I wouldn't agree with calling a fat person "differently sized" just to make them feel better about themselves. But I would strongly support a change in attitude (not language) towards minorities and different groups. When people treat each other with respect, then language becomes much less of a problem.

My apologies for the wall of text, but this is something I feel strongly about.

 

[maturin]

It's just the crazy, leftist subaru-hippies trying to infringe on our free speech.

Nice try. When the choice of words on childrens' TV shows starts breaking into your computer and censoring your mail, just let me know.


Anyways, in general you don't need political correctness, you just need to be polite, damnit.

 

[thedoclc]

Freedom of speech is idiotic. Political correctness, equally so.
Words can hurt, and should be moderated, if only by common sense. There is nothing to be gained by giving people the right to slander or make inflammatory remarks.
On the other hand, the government has no right or purpose whatsoever to dictate right and wrong in any context, including words and opinions.

*snip*

Wait, wait, wait...government isn't supposed to moderate free speech, but people don't have the right to make inflammatory remarks? That's an inherent contradiction; either the state DOES regulate such speech or else people do have the RIGHT to make the remarks. Suffering consequences from non-government sources is not a violation of one's rights (in non-equal opportunity cases.) If a worker makes racist slurs and their employer fires them, that's not an infringement of rights as an employer is able to terminate employment for any reason.

To the extent government does NOT regulate communication, you have free speech. If government has no right to regulate free speech, then by definition you have unlimited freedom of speech. US constitutional law does place a few limits on free speech, most of them regarding either obscenity or else incitement to immediate violence. Most "censorship" in the US is actually done by the private sector. (Not allowing minors into certain movies, for example, is not a government policy but a voluntary decision by the MPAA.) The private sector cannot take your rights away, but they can cease doing business with you, which is -not- the same thing as censorship.

Edit: To clarify, if a hate-group wants to put out their message, they can under the First Amendment of the US Constitution, provided the message is not inciting -immediate- violence. So if the Klan wanted to post their screed, they can, but they can't say, "And let's go kill us some insert group we hate right now!"

 

[JunebugJuJuBee]

I don't like the options in this poll. Too black and white, ahah.

Allow me to explain. To some degree I think we should respect people's wishes to not be called something they find offensive like Asians not wanting to be called Oriental or Deaf people not wanting to be called Hearing Impaired. Fine, I can dig that. In polite conversation, and as long as it isn't a cumbersome term, I shall call you what you want.

On the other hand, people need to know when it's appropriate to complain and when it really isn't needed. We should be allowed to joke about whatever we want. People should be free to say whatever mean word they want without an entire lawsuit being brought on their head. And for the record, if I guy calls a black man the 'N' word, we shouldn't flip out about it. We should pity him for being so ignorant. Srsly,the n word just makes me sad when people say it, not angry.

Also, I am not going to say African American. It's not as streamlined as black, and as a writer, I can't stand typing out that huge phrase.

TL;DR in some cases, it's understandable, but let's all try being less butthurt.

 

[Shadowsole]

As a White female I don't see a problem with a Aboriginal or anyone else with darker skin Black, It's a purely discriptive term for me, and with things like Fag It is fine aslong as you arn't using it as a insult.

 

[SnipErlite]

A lot of political correctness is simply recockulous. Yes, recockulous.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I'd take it to its most ridiculous extremes, then explore why it can be a bad thing, and that moderation and commonc sense needs to be applied.

Also, 'stoned' becomes 'chemically inconvenienced'? to me that's do exactly what 'black' and '******' does, placing a negative overtone on what was a simple descriptive word. (not that black is an ideal description, but lets face it, you say 'black guy' everyone knows what you mean. That replacement tells me that the person who created it is against drugs and feels they're inherently bad. 'Stoned' we all know means 'affected by drugs'.

(Note I'm not saying drugs are good, and in the most they're not exactly 'performance enhancing' but as Bill Hicks said, they sure helped a lot of artists create great things.

My trouble with the anti PC side, it seems to be mainly populated by the **** Richard Littlejohn, and his type, who want a return to good ol' values where you can call gays faggots and anyone who's a bit dusky a raghead terrorist, and any woman that won't blow you a fat lezza.

I do think that renaming manhole covers and blackboards is a bit silly, but considering many of the stories we hear are entirely ficticious, such as the ban on EU bananas that were too bendy, and the 'ban on Christmas in case it offends muslims', I'll happily call that metal disc in the road an 'access cover' if it helps stop people being abusive to other people just because they think it's freedom of speech to act like a Littlejohn.

Note: Littlejohn is a new swearword I'm going to try to get started as it's obviously offensive to women to use the C word as something derogatory when most men spend their whole lives trying to get even near one. Though it's a bit long, maybe a 'Piers' would work too.

As recently as 1964, a political seat was lost in Birmingham, England, to a Peter Griffiths, running for the Tories, whose campaign featured the infamous 10-word slogan: "If you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote Labour."

I'd like to think we've moved on, and don't want to slip backwards. However, there's a constant pressure even now by the press to make the words muslim and terrorist synonymous. Along with the phrase 'Eastern European' and 'benefit thieving lazy immigrant', and of course, they still love to continue the old ones about the French and white flags, the germans and no sense of humour, and being power crazy, the italians all being sex mad, etc.

Stewart Lee on PC:


Here's one thing to confuse my entire point tho, how bad is it? I'm thinking back to when Cheryl Cole violently assaulted a black female bathroom attendant in a nightclub, and the papers went wild, as she'd apparently said 'black *****' while punching her in the face.

I can't help but feel in that attendant's place, I'd have found the being punched in the face the worst part of the attack. Even escalating it to ****** *****, I'd take that and no punch over the punch with no racism.

Of course, I'm not black and maybe it does hurt some more than genuine violence.

My stance really is, it'd be good to get rid of the more offensive words, but in the end, intent matters more than the actual words. What's worse, yelling 'you stupid black fucker' at someone who brakes suddenly in front of you, or using the word ****** as part of an ironically offensive joke? Surely 'black' is worse, as it's used in hate.

 

[Blind Sight]

I'm going with ridicious on this one, what I don't get is why we're so focused on what people say when we should be focused on what people do instead. Rip on my beliefs, sexuality, gender, skin colour and 'religion'(I'm an irrelevant atheist so I'm not really sure it counts) as much as you want, I really don't care, but when you, say, try to hurt or kill me over it, that's what we should be concerned about.