Poll: Pornography, good? bad? something in between?

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217not237

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I think when people call pornography "objectifying to women," and all that crap, that is the most offensive thing ever. What about gay porn? Is society so homophobic that it labels pornography as a whole as evil because it refuses to acknowledge the harmless porn? This world makes me sick. Not all porn is evil, just the porn that heterosexual men enjoy. I say all heterosexual or lesbian pornography should be banned because of the damage it causes to humanity. From now on, men shall only embrace themselves when there are two dudes! Join me, my allies, for the great feminism and gay rights movement!

I'm joking, obviously.
 

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Aerodyamic said:
http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/a-man-is-a-rape-supporter-if

According to the woman who posted the above blog, you're a "rape supporter" if you watch porn that:


  • Depicts women
    Sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian behaviour
    Depicts "sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present."

That's not even close to a comprehensive list of the things that make someone a "rape supporter", but it does make for some damn funny reading, since her list is so broad and inclusive that almost every man over the age of 18 alive today qualifies. It also states that asking if porn is an acceptable artistic medium makes you a "rape supporter".
Oh, wow. I try to keep the "feminists are extremist man-haters" stereotype out of my head, but then I keep running into stuff like this. >_>
 

BehattedWanderer

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It's degrading of those involved, and it's portrayal...but it has it's uses. And I can't say that tags and filters make for a more appreciative and responding me, and the quantity of it means one certainly has their pick of it. It can help people experiment, and try new things, and it can lead to an openness of sexual expression, but it also has the problem of bestowing terrible expectations on parties unprepared and inexperienced. Biologically, it has it's uses. Stress too high, anxiety running over you, or having trouble sleeping? Have a wank! Clears your mind, dopamine and serotonin jump, and you relax some. We just need to realize that there's a limit, and appropriate use, and that there are negative side effects.

Schreck157 said:
I think that anyone in a serious committed relationship has no need for it either.
I'm inclined to give an anecdote, but I'll stick with the opinion that watching some together can be an incredible experience. It may not be your thing, but finding one you both like that you watch together can actually deepen your appreciation for each other. Just know that if you suggest a filter that your partner doesn't like, expect to deal with that.
 

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I'm not sure it's a black-or-white, either/or thing.

At least one study has suggested that in places where pornography is readily accessible, there's less sexual violence. I tend to think that's a good thing.

Likewise, it often seems that where, as a culture, we decide to simply fold our arms, scowl, and intone, "Decent people don't do those things," we inevitably reap the result of our decision to willfully disregard reality (see also: The Drug War, abstinence-only sexual education, Prohibition...)

And like some of those areas, I tend to feel we're better off with a certain degree of regulation (e.g., drug and STD screening and some laws to prevent coercive practices) than banning.

Also, this may be one of the few ways in which the Internet, weirdly enough, is actually something of a unifying influence. You know that weird thing you've always wanted to do with the blueberry pie filling and the Troll doll?... There's someone out there with a page full of photographs.

It sounds ridiculous, I know, but I genuinely tend to feel it's better when people don't have to sit alone in their rooms and think that they're so alien and strange that there couldn't possibly be anyone else on Earth like them.

All that said, we're also starting to see certain cultures emerging in which sexual desire isn't something you turn to other people to fulfill. For some people, possibly even an increasing number of people, pornography is becoming an enabler of failure to develop social and emotional skills and possibly pathologically self-destructive behavior.

I'm not saying that everyone who enjoys pornography is damaged, not by a long shot. For some people, pornography is clearly part of a robust and healthy sexuality. But I do think it's becoming easier to use pornography in unhealthy ways, and there's certainly nothing in pornography itself to prevent that.
 

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Powereaver said:
To be viewed for enjoyment purposes only its fine. But it is in NO way a realistic portrayal of sex, plus on a whole gender stereotyping viewpoint it is VERY flawed.
Pretty much this, but I would like to expand on it saying that one should not their their view point of sex be swayed by porn either.

It is no more dangerous than anything and should be regulated according, even after purchase. I mean let's not forget the 12 year old in Scotland who tried to emulate what he say on a prono on a younger girl (I can't remember her age).
 

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Mr.Tea said:
HA! Not fucking likely! (for me, I mean)

I'm actually having the opposite problem: Porn is so fake (even when it's real) that, now that I've watched tons of it, I have a hard time getting aroused by it.
So many beautiful naked women being completely wasted by excessive close-ups of assholes (seriously, what's up with that??) wide shots in bad angles and complete lack of chemistry... I swear if I ever meet someone who has shot porn in person, I'm punching them in the dick.
I've never really enjoyed porn, for this reason, and for the fact that every woman seems to climax even before actual stimulation happens. Tone it down, girls.
Also, the 30 minute blowjobs. I have my own penis, and I don't look at it that often, why would I be watching someone elses?
 

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Well you know what they say.

I personally discovered porn at around age 6 and while I do not think that it screwed me up (more so than I already am by default configuration) I would not expose younger people to it as it could easier warp their impression of how sex works. Sex ED needs to be much more common as you do not have people fucking out in the middle of public where you can observe the technique and nuances involved. So yes, porn good, Sex ED good, I'm insane, internet is for porn, parents keep track of your kid's online activity.
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Mmmmmhmmmm.
 

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Aerodyamic said:
http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/a-man-is-a-rape-supporter-if

According to the woman who posted the above blog, you're a "rape supporter" if you watch porn that:


  • Depicts women
    Sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian behaviour
    Depicts "sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present."

That's not even close to a comprehensive list of the things that make someone a "rape supporter", but it does make for some damn funny reading, since her list is so broad and inclusive that almost every man over the age of 18 alive today qualifies. It also states that asking if porn is an acceptable artistic medium makes you a "rape supporter".

Also, if that wordpress blog happens to rustle your jimmmies, feel free to check out this response:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geQyrBGS_60&feature=bf_prev&list=PLAB34B72BF0CFDB77

I'll flat-out admit that I watch porn, and that I enjoy watching it, if I don't have a more pressing, intimate encounter to engage in.
Fucking hell, after watching a half dozen videos linked from the response I feel like someone took a hatchet to my head and shoved a big piece of perspective into my brain. I need to think about some of the stuff I took for granted about my gender.

THAT won't cause any friction with my pseudo feminist fiancee.

Fuck/thank you for the link.
 

ElPatron

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Blablahb said:
How is the existance of homophobes
Yes, everyone was a homophobe, not a person heavily influenced by (today's standards) outdated conventions and religious beliefs.

Blablahb said:
relevant to the fact that watching child porn encourages sexual fantasies about sex with children, and thus sex crimes?
Because homosexuals used to be encouraged to not think about men and just focus on women. Ever watched Bruno? That part in the story when he tries to become straight?

Somehow, a dude working for the church curing "teh gay" didn't work to stop homosexuality. The Swedish school board that told the girl to be "less gay" are a bunch of asses. People who think you can "contain" or even "cure" homosexuality are asses.

And I don't pretend that pedophilia is something we can just program other people to forget.

I am against sex crimes. But I can't be against the way someone was born. Trying to make a pedophile stop fantasizing about children is like telling you must stop thinking about women/men. I.E. not gonna happen until you're effectively rendered sexually useless.
 

Tannhauser

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Porn is an addiction, and it messes you up. Do yourselves a favor and read all about it here:

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/
 

ronald1840

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I look at this the same way I see a lot of other drugs. Alcohol, cigarettes, white girl (cocaine), lemon-heads, well, maybe not the exact same way. Porn can be bad and damaging to your life if you constantly watch it every day to the point where you can't carry a conversation for five minutes without slipping in some heavy innuendo.

You watch it maybe once, twice a week? Okay, that's comfortable. Anything more and especially daily? You may want to cut back a bit and go out and try other things. Get a hobby, go for a walk, hang out with your friends, just do it in moderation. Everyone knows what it is and how to access it, but that stuff isn't realistic.

It can be good or bad depending on how you use it. You don't have to watch it and you're not missing out on anything if you don't. We all know why you watch it and it isn't for the strong writing and cinematography. If you do, hey, it's your business, but do us a favor, will you? Keep it to yourself.
 

kurupt87

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Hello again, you need to join the publishers club mate; give yourself the title "King of the Wall Posts".
cotss2012 said:
kurupt87 said:
Anything that is fun and makes you happy is addictive. It's the having fun and being happy that are addictive though, not the activity itself.
Actually, it's the rush of dopamine in your limbic system that makes things addictive.
And if I'd said that at least some people wouldn't know what I was on about and I might as well have said fuck all. If you can say it simply, say it simply; otherwise you come across as arrogant and/or pretentious.
 

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cotss2012 said:
MetalMagpie said:
No, I'm saying anyone who rapes women is a pervert!
People who rape men, however, aren't perverts at all...
Oh for crying out loud...

Yes, people who rape men, women, children, dogs, livestock or any other non-consenting creature are all perverts. So are people who torture babies for sexual gratification, and so are people who get their rocks off by pouring boiling water over the heads of old ladies.

I was responding to this:
Sparrow said:
MetalMagpie said:
Maybe if perverts can "get their fill" using internet videos, then they don't feel the need to go outside and prey on real women?
Wait. Are you saying anyone who watches porn is a pervert?
And I referred specifically to women because my original comment referred specifically to women:
MetalMagpie said:
There are stats that suggest there may be a link between an increase in distribution of porn and a decrease in sexual assaults on women.
All OK now? Anyone else feel like being offended by me today?
 

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I'm asexual and find porn downright surreal to look at, but I don't think it's evil or anything.
I suppose it's exploitative of everyone involved, but I still wish Sinfest strips would stop whining about it.
 

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renegade7 said:
I think it is beneficial when it helps people become comfortable with the idea of sexuality, and also become more comfortable with and aware of their own sexuality, get a better idea of what they might like, what they might not like, etc.

I think pornography is harmful when people base their ideas of sexuality off of it and develop unrealistic ideas about sex, the body, relationships, etc, and when it degrades the importance if intimacy in a relationship. Porno is a form of entertainment, it is not a guidebook that will teach you better ways to have sex, how real people have sex, and it ignores the potential consequences of sex.

So, as with all things, there is a good side and a bad side, and it all depends on your personal perspective. I think this is one of the main reasons that we should have age restrictions on porn, and also why sex ed should be taught in school. If you have the context to view it properly, then it's great and harmless fun, if you don't have that maturity and knowledge then it can be damaging.
This pretty much sums it up. I think the same applies to most forms of media too.
 

lRookiel

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Well, it helps with stress? and when I'm bored?

Yes it's good, not sure why though xD
 

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Man porn is awesome, it's like, the ultimate stress reliever, and not because you can 'ya know' with yourself while watching it. I'll often times be angry or upset after a long day, then I just go home and watch some incredibly campy porn. The dialogue oh god the dialogue! It's the funniest damn stuff you will ever hear ever.
 

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Some of my favorite porn directors:
Shaun Costello/Warren Evans
Anthony Spinelli
Alex de Renzy
Joe D'Amato

They made a lot of the classics. You haven't seen porn until you've seen porn made on or before 1984. There were many things going on at that time that changed porn forever, VHS, Reagan, AIDS, etc. It was the end of the dark and dirty eroticism.

Now all porn seems to be shot in the middle of the afternoon, with the sun pouring in the home of some producer who lives in the hollywood hills. *yawn*

And what's wrong with degradation? How about we work on not enslaving and murdering one another first and then worry about minor social disorders later? Gotta get your priorities in order humanity. Degrading others is human, it's in families, schools, the work place. I think the degrading in fantasy films is probably the least harmful brand.
 

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Me and my girlfriend of 2 years watch it from time to time, but we have to pace ourselves. I don't like for us to get lost in that... mindset, I guess? or fantasy? it just feels like it would have a degenerating effect on our relationship if we let it. I think it can be a wonderful thing, but like any sex toy, its all in how you use it... use it right, great. it can help sex become an even more passionate thing. use it too much, and its just the opposite. suddenly there's no passion.

Luckily, we aren't at that point, and I don't see us getting there anytime soon. but porn is like a drug, really. anything that can become that addictive can definitely have negative effects on you or your loved ones if used poorly, or too much.