Poll: Predict how The Old Republic will be.

[Arsen]

Pick the option that best sums up your viewpoint on how you think the Old Republic will turn out. (And please, explain it as well.)

I am vouching for the storyline option. I will give the game credit for trying to implement the element, but overall I can't help but think of how one might be able to play the same story portion again and again ala doing a raid event over and over.

 

[Zombie Badger]

There don't seem to be any options for 'It will be shit, and spit on my beloved memories of KOTOR'.

 

[Amnestic]

There don't seem to be any options for 'It will be shit, and spit on my beloved memories of KOTOR'.

I'm not sure I follow. One's a single player RPG, the other's an MMORPG. Different genres entirely.

That's like saying "World of Warcraft spat on the beloved memories of Warcraft 2." when they're completely different games, albeit set in the same universe.

It'll probably be a solid game. It won't 'dethrone Azeroth' as you put it, nor will it wear off in 3 weeks if what they've said about the different quest lines for different classes is true.

It looks like it could have staying power, more so than the likes of Conan anyway. I'll pick up a copy when it comes out and give it a whirl to see how it goes up against WoW and compare aspects of the two, but I expect TOR to far outstrip WoW's questing which is severely dated compared to modern MMOs.

 

[Curtmiester]

Wheres "Lets wait for more info" option?
But I do believe it will win second place in mmo history.

 

[iggyus]

I am a massive fan of KOTOR so I have high hopes for this game although I dont really like the fact that it is an MMO. Still it looks impressive so far and I trust BioWare

 

[luckshot]

i fear one of 2 things everyone able to be a jedi/sith from the get go or it getting dumbed down

 

[Zombie Badger]

There don't seem to be any options for 'It will be shit, and spit on my beloved memories of KOTOR'.

I'm not sure I follow. One's a single player RPG, the other's an MMORPG. Different genres entirely.

That's like saying "World of Warcraft spat on the beloved memories of Warcraft 2." when they're completely different games, albeit set in the same universe.

It'll probably be a solid game. It won't 'dethrone Azeroth' as you put it, nor will it wear off in 3 weeks if what they've said about the different quest lines for different classes is true.

It looks like it could have staying power, more so than the likes of Conan anyway. I'll pick up a copy when it comes out and give it a whirl to see how it goes up against WoW and compare aspects of the two, but I expect TOR to far outstrip WoW's questing which is severely dated compared to modern MMOs.

Consider that I have tried several MMOs, and I hated all of them, and couldn't imagine spending more than a few hours playing them. My main hatred is that they are incredibly monotonous and repetitive, but lack a compelling story (I've heard of the story in the Old Republic, but in KOTOR you could make a big difference to the world around you and determine the fate of the galaxy. In an MMO you can do neither, and trying to make characters likeable will be difficult as you will only see them when they give you missions). I will play a game without much variety in the gameplay department if the story is excellent (Dreamfall, for example), but as I've said MMOs lack that.

MMOs ask me to play in their world for hundreds of hours, but I can't imagine a game that I'd have fun doing that in (And fun is the reason we play games, of course), and I can't imagine how their missions will allieviate the monotony anymore than Warcraft's did. I'm also slightly bitter about being denied KOTOR 3.

 

[Amnestic]

There don't seem to be any options for 'It will be shit, and spit on my beloved memories of KOTOR'.

I'm not sure I follow. One's a single player RPG, the other's an MMORPG. Different genres entirely.

That's like saying "World of Warcraft spat on the beloved memories of Warcraft 2." when they're completely different games, albeit set in the same universe.

It'll probably be a solid game. It won't 'dethrone Azeroth' as you put it, nor will it wear off in 3 weeks if what they've said about the different quest lines for different classes is true.

It looks like it could have staying power, more so than the likes of Conan anyway. I'll pick up a copy when it comes out and give it a whirl to see how it goes up against WoW and compare aspects of the two, but I expect TOR to far outstrip WoW's questing which is severely dated compared to modern MMOs.

Consider that I have tried several MMOs, and I hated all of them, and couldn't imagine spending more than a few hours playing them. My main hatred is that they are incredibly monotonous and repetitive, but lack a compelling story (I've heard of the story in the Old Republic, but in KOTOR you could make a big difference to the world around you and determine the fate of the galaxy. In an MMO you can do neither, and trying to make characters likeable will be difficult as you will only see them when they give you missions). I will play a game without much variety in the gameplay department if the story is excellent (Dreamfall, for example), but as I've said MMOs lack that.

MMOs ask me to play in their world for hundreds of hours, but I can't imagine a game that I'd have fun doing that in (And fun is the reason we play games, of course), and I can't imagine how their missions will allieviate the monotony anymore than Warcraft's did. I'm also slightly bitter about being denied KOTOR 3.

Right. So you're not a fan of MMOs. That's fine.

Why is it 'spitting on your beloved memories'? Neither KotOR 1 nor 2 change any with the release of TOR. I'm not really seeing the logical jump here.

 

[tirone231]

Aside from the fact that Bioware seems to have forgotten that the story from KoToR 1 and 2 isn't finished yet, and that I want to play that story and not read about it, I think KoToR will be good for a while, except that everyone will eventually want to be a Jedi, and so the game will be filled with so many lightsabers that some people will have seizures. I'm not sure how they plan to do the story exactly...but there's a reason that MMO's typically don't worry about story...because the world has to stay exactly the same for all the newcomers to be able to experience the game the same way. It's like in WoW. Even if you kill a boss for a story mission, he'll just respawn for the next group taking his quest, and so you won't feel like you've changed the world in any way, which seems like what they're hoping players to feel. Even if they get inventive and make an Npc disappear if you kill him, if you see someone talking to the air, and realize that they are on the same quest now, you'll have the same feeling.

I would rather have played as the Exile and Revan, finally meeting up and battling the grand evil that drove Revan to the Sith in the first place and discover as I go along how the groups fared after their games, rather than read about it in ancient scrolls as the game developers have said they would use...well I call "shenanigans and bullcrap" on that, and say that someone at Bioware decided that money was more important than finishing what they had started, and so threw out any interest in KoToR 3 in order to try and succeed where Galaxies has begun to fail.

Then again the game may work flawlessly, and I'd be totally wrong.

 

[Xanadeas]

I eagerly await its release. T_T I want to play it so much. D:

 

[Insanum]

It will be epic, Then when you realize its just a shiny grind fest it will fail.

 

[Zombie Badger]

Right. So you're not a fan of MMOs. That's fine.

Why is it 'spitting on your beloved memories'? Neither KotOR 1 nor 2 change any with the release of TOR. I'm not really seeing the logical jump here.

Sorry about the spitting. It's an almost generic phrase that I seem to spit out when referring to any bad 'reimagining' of an old, beloved classic (The HG2G film, the 4th Indie Movie, the Nicolas Cage Wicker Man film). I suppose it's mainly that I will be denied the story I've been waiting years for because I refuse to pay every month to play a game instead of only once.

 

[Knight Templar]

Everybody will want to be a jedi, apart from harcore fans who will be pissed by everybody being a jedi.

Unless Jedi are weaker than the other classes, then everybody will be pissed off.

 

[SilentHunter7]

*takes deep breath*

Okay.

Now when The Old Republic was first announced, I had the biggest spat of Nerd Rage I've ever experienced. I felt it was a lame, painfully obvious attempt by LucasArts to cash in on the MMO craze, and the KOTOR fandom. I had felt that the rich, single-player experience of both KOTOR 1, and 2, would be bastardized, and replaced by 17 year old Sunday Afternoon Sith ganking, and brooding about how dark their existance is. I thought that an MMO could never capture the same epic feeling as a single-player RPG. I thought that Lucas Arts just wanted an excuse to suck in a lucrative monthly fee from its fans.

I felt betrayed. Betrayed that LA took one of my favorite IPs, and decided to whore it out. Betrayed that after waiting 3 long years with no sign that LA even had plans for KOTOR, I was told that the series would go the MMO route, rather than close the loose ends. Rage fails to describe the way I felt. I was fucking pissed.

Now some of you may have noticed that I used the past tense in that diatribe. Well, after a year, and more news about the MMO came out, I cooled off. I accepted the fact that I wasn't going to see a KOTOR 3 until at least the next decade. I accepted the fact that it was probably a really good business move on the part of Lucas Arts. I accepted the fact that I couldn't do anything about it.

So, rather than dwell on what I knew I couldn't change, I decided to follow the new MMO's development. I was...intrigued by what I heard. So Bioware was trying to put a story into an MMO? Personally, I don't see how you can tell a story in such an environment. How the hell can you make one person feel unique when you have a million other people playing the same game as you? How can anything you do affect a game world without affecting everyone else, and still feel like it has consequence? Even after I heard about how each class has it's own contained storyline, and how there are cutscenes, I'm still skeptical.

I'm also worried about the Jedi and Sith classes. I mean, besides the fact that the ratio of Force users to every other class is likely to be 100:1, How do you go about making these demigods, who wield swords that can cut anything, have telekinetic powers, and can change the course of history in seconds, balanced with the other classes without nerfing them to hell? I just cant see how its possible (that is why you fail ).

I'm still holding out for an announcement on the price model. If it's microtransaction based, they can go to hell. I don't play games so I can get ganked by some 13 year old kid, who has a $20 Infinity-plus-one sword, and a $15 set of Jedi Robes of nigh-invulnerability, because his divorced parents buy him everything he wants so he doesn't hate them.

If it's a subscription model that costs less than $10, I can live with it. Any more than $10, they can kiss my ass. I go to college, and I'm in too much debt to be pissing away $200 a year.

A Guild Wars model of having no subscription, but releasing over 9000 expansions, I can also live with.

But those worries aside, The Old Republic has my interest. It looks like Bioware is putting enough work into it so that it's certainly possible that it can compete with WoW. It also has a setting which I'm favorable to. I'll just have to wait and see whether this is worth my money, or not.

 

[teutonicman]

It will suck ass... I sorry that's just my bitterness for them not spending their time on KOTOR 3 instead. Honestly I predict it will do as well/ mabey a little better that any other of the mmos' that arn't WoW.

 

[Arsen]

I would like to mention that it is possible for a good class balance between guns and lightsabers. Anyone remember Jango Fett? Remember the 501st shooting the Jedi? I distinctly remember Mandalore killing waves of Sith in my game of KotoR 2.

Jedi aren't invincible, it just seems as if the majority of time in the games and movie Jedi are focused on moreso. Not to mention that when they are focused on, they are the best of the best.

 

[bob-2000]

I think that it'll be good, but not as good as KoTOR.

 

[dodo1331]

I won't be able to play it because my computer sucks. Unless my 2005 computer can run it, then it will probably be Mass Effect-good, but not KoToR-good.

 

[randomrob]

As long as they don't charge you to play it then i'll buy it.

 

[Azhrarn-101]

It depends on what EA is going to do.
If they let Bioware take their time and polish the game to a mirror finish before release it can be glorious, however if they do like they usually do, then the game will be released too soon, half-finished and rather aweful. It'll be as good as dead in a matter of months.

This is EA, so the second option is almost 100% certain, which is a pity.