Poll: Problems With Anime?
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I like a few animes but a lot of the recent ones seem to run into the same story plots and the characters lack depth and generally I get bored of it.
Bleach I gave up after 20 episodes, I saw later episodes and the same nosense is going on. I swear if you added up all the explanations of moves in that series it'd end up being 2 seasons of skill sets.
Best anime I saw recently is Hellsing Ultimate 1-4 out of the 7. I know it's older but being someone who wasn't 100% with the original series and seeing how it was MEANT to be was both refreshing and awesome.
Best NEW anime I saw? ...er...Full Metal Alchemist? I liked that but I hear it too wasn't done right and they redid it with Brotherhood. I can't keep up anymore.
And my Favorite Anime of all time isssss...Outlaw Star. I love sci fi, and just liked the style of it all. Fantastic series. (don't tell me it's different from the manga, I'm sure it is and I don't care to find out just how butchered it might be)
Bleach I gave up after 20 episodes, I saw later episodes and the same nosense is going on. I swear if you added up all the explanations of moves in that series it'd end up being 2 seasons of skill sets.
Best anime I saw recently is Hellsing Ultimate 1-4 out of the 7. I know it's older but being someone who wasn't 100% with the original series and seeing how it was MEANT to be was both refreshing and awesome.
Best NEW anime I saw? ...er...Full Metal Alchemist? I liked that but I hear it too wasn't done right and they redid it with Brotherhood. I can't keep up anymore.
And my Favorite Anime of all time isssss...Outlaw Star. I love sci fi, and just liked the style of it all. Fantastic series. (don't tell me it's different from the manga, I'm sure it is and I don't care to find out just how butchered it might be)
After all these years, they still don't know how to animate. I'm talking real animation. Chuck Jones, Disney, Don Bluth. Donald Duck-The Hockey Champ 1939. Nothing japan has done in 60 years has come close to that. In fact nothing they do comes close to South Park. They can animate the hell out of some bewb jiggling, I admit. 60 some years and that's the only thing they can animate well. Think about that.
Also rape is wrong. Pedophilia is wrong. That's not cultural it's universal. I don't like that in every goddamn frame there's this uneasy creepy pervertedness. Zatch Bell was an entire show dedicated to the joys of pedophilia. Think about that. To be fair a lot of American cop dramas seem to have a creepy necrothing going on.
And shit be gay, yo. Looking at you Naruto. It's so gay that they had to make a gay character(I assume he's gay) so you wouldn't notice how gay the rest of the show is.
Also rape is wrong. Pedophilia is wrong. That's not cultural it's universal. I don't like that in every goddamn frame there's this uneasy creepy pervertedness. Zatch Bell was an entire show dedicated to the joys of pedophilia. Think about that. To be fair a lot of American cop dramas seem to have a creepy necrothing going on.
And shit be gay, yo. Looking at you Naruto. It's so gay that they had to make a gay character(I assume he's gay) so you wouldn't notice how gay the rest of the show is.
Yeah i started watching Fullmetal Alchemist too. I like it, and so does my little brother, surprisingly. it wasn't done wrong, they just made it before the actual manga was finished, so it had it's own storyline, it wasn't necessarily wrong. Brotherhood just sticks to the manga (or comic, or graphic novel, whatever you want to call it)Snotnarok said:
The internet spiral of hate surrounding it. The craziness of weeaboos is well-documented, and the exact opposite who think everything western is automatically superior while Japan needs to be nuked is probably worse in terms of aggression (and they can be pretentious; I've run into someone who thinks western art is all about bringing about emotion and social change, nevermind many-a dumb blockbuster).
Also, I'll admit to not liking much of what came out in the past few seasons, but I still have quite a few series to see.
Also, I'll admit to not liking much of what came out in the past few seasons, but I still have quite a few series to see.
For me, the only real problem I have with any particular anime is when the story itself bores me. I treat anime much the same as I treat any other TV show or film, whether it's from Japan or not. I won't watch a US or UK drama series that I find to have a crap story, likewise if I don't enjoy the story of a particular anime then I simply won't watch it. Other than that, I do get somewhat annoyed, yet amused, at the people who take anime far too seriously. Though I would never call someone out on it, I can't help but laugh at the people who go overboard with their devotion to an anime. I mean, fine, I'll admit I do ship characters and stuff in my head, and have ideas for fan fiction (though I've not got around to writing anything yet...). But going overboard on something is just silly. Though, then again, I still laugh anyway at people who do that with anything else. Don't even get me started on Trekkies...
Oh, and I've never understood why some people refuse to watch particular anime in English when dubbed, because they see the voice acting as being bad. I mean, whenever I watch anime I don't focus on the voice acting, I just listen to what's being said. I'm watching Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni at the moment and the voice acting sounds fine to me, if a little over the top at times, but most comments I see online are that the voice acting is crap and that subs are much better. Anyone care to enlighten me here? After all, if I wanted to read subtitles I'd just go and read the manga instead of watching an anime...
Oh, and I've never understood why some people refuse to watch particular anime in English when dubbed, because they see the voice acting as being bad. I mean, whenever I watch anime I don't focus on the voice acting, I just listen to what's being said. I'm watching Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni at the moment and the voice acting sounds fine to me, if a little over the top at times, but most comments I see online are that the voice acting is crap and that subs are much better. Anyone care to enlighten me here? After all, if I wanted to read subtitles I'd just go and read the manga instead of watching an anime...
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Voice acting is a bothersome. The original japanese, I mean. Especially from women characters. They start yelling, my ears start bleeding, and my dog starts howling, and I don't see my cat for a few days. Just. Plain. Awful.
The fanbase is another. Anime has to have the most childish fanbase of any sort of media, or art. They make the 13 year olds on Xbox live look mature. And they never shut up.
Every single anime has the most formulated characters. Always the exact same guy, or gal in every single one. Always said that anime has some of the most unique story lines, but they are ruined by the most run of the mill, cookie cutter characters.
A few other reasons, but this post is becoming too long about this particular subject for my liking.
Voice acting is a bothersome. The original japanese, I mean. Especially from women characters. They start yelling, my ears start bleeding, and my dog starts howling, and I don't see my cat for a few days. Just. Plain. Awful.
The fanbase is another. Anime has to have the most childish fanbase of any sort of media, or art. They make the 13 year olds on Xbox live look mature. And they never shut up.
Every single anime has the most formulated characters. Always the exact same guy, or gal in every single one. Always said that anime has some of the most unique story lines, but they are ruined by the most run of the mill, cookie cutter characters.
A few other reasons, but this post is becoming too long about this particular subject for my liking.
THe over the top animation in many Anime, like parts of Dragon Ball Z, and most of Pokemon. I don't really have a problem with most anime, mainly on the grouds that what I've seen (Hellsing (Both TV and OVA), Gantz, Ghost In The Shell) has been good and much more adult focused.
But when you think about it, most of the world shouldn't really be allowed to complain, as most Anime is made by Japan, FOR Japan. Japan has an entirely different culture to a lot of people that watch Anime. Hence why half the world finds Family Guy fucking stupid.
But when you think about it, most of the world shouldn't really be allowed to complain, as most Anime is made by Japan, FOR Japan. Japan has an entirely different culture to a lot of people that watch Anime. Hence why half the world finds Family Guy fucking stupid.
ditto. While i do like the occasional ecchi seriesStaskala said:
its getting pretty ridiculous now. >.< But on topic, My only gripe is the Anime Elitists. I've watched thousands of hours of anime and love every minute. But i never saw the need to justify Dubs vs Subs or Speed vs Quality. If i get it, (and its good) i'll watch it.
The biggest problem I have with anime (mostly naruto and bleach) is that there is TOO MUCH DARN DIALOGUE.
Okay, the final, big fight we were waiting for. They start out talking, then suddenly one of the character starts to have flashbacks to his child hood and why he/she became what they are then. This takes up sooooooo much time that it has to use up a whole show before the REAL fight acctually begins, and yes, it does help a bit with the story but it doesn't need to take up the whole episode, maybe just 1/4.
Okay, the final, big fight we were waiting for. They start out talking, then suddenly one of the character starts to have flashbacks to his child hood and why he/she became what they are then. This takes up sooooooo much time that it has to use up a whole show before the REAL fight acctually begins, and yes, it does help a bit with the story but it doesn't need to take up the whole episode, maybe just 1/4.
All of the above, EXCEPT for the weird plots. The willingness to explore stories nobody else even thinks of is anime's greatest strength, in my opinion.
My biggest gripe of all are those little conventions all the shows follow like sheep. You know, the little things, like the massive sweat drip on people's heads, flailing their arms around when yelling, tomboyish girls always ALWAYS punching some guy in the face after they get falsely accused of being a pervert after the same tired old 'wrong place wrong time' bullshit.
-The professional team having one person say 'just a bit more' with another supposed professional saying 'that's too much' or 'it won't take it' only to be proven wrong every single time. Matter of fact any group of professionals regularly being surprised and generally acting like complete novices.
And the women. Don't get me started on the women. In most crap anime there's literally only about 5 types of women, and they all have gravity defying chests save for the little one who is impossibly perky and pretty much bases her entire life around harassing the main character. So many of the women in anime are eiher soft spoken eyes-closed-all-the-time cup hands in front of their chest types, or loud, brash tomboys that love beating guys up, because apparently that a joke that never gets old in anime land.
There is very little anime I like, but don't get me wrong- the anime I like, I usually love. My favourite film of all time is an anime and I'm never ashamed to say it, either. If the spectrum of anime could just get out of it's own asses just long enough to have a look at the diversity in the rest of the world's animation and realise how pigeonholed most of anime is, then maybe we'd start seeing all the tired old anime tricks start to disappear, or only appear where it's actually well handled.
You know, instead of the same old 'girl has just been called pretty-need to show a reaction-the anime text book tells us to make her look down, get red scribbles on her face, grab her own chest for reassurance of whatever, and say something very softly that equates to her not being worthy or some shit'. Oh, and there's a follow up entry here about then showing the guy, realising he's embarrassed her, sweat a massive single drop on the side of his head and then flail his arms around while trying to apologise for opening his mouth in the first place.
It's enough to make you want to puke.
My biggest gripe of all are those little conventions all the shows follow like sheep. You know, the little things, like the massive sweat drip on people's heads, flailing their arms around when yelling, tomboyish girls always ALWAYS punching some guy in the face after they get falsely accused of being a pervert after the same tired old 'wrong place wrong time' bullshit.
-The professional team having one person say 'just a bit more' with another supposed professional saying 'that's too much' or 'it won't take it' only to be proven wrong every single time. Matter of fact any group of professionals regularly being surprised and generally acting like complete novices.
And the women. Don't get me started on the women. In most crap anime there's literally only about 5 types of women, and they all have gravity defying chests save for the little one who is impossibly perky and pretty much bases her entire life around harassing the main character. So many of the women in anime are eiher soft spoken eyes-closed-all-the-time cup hands in front of their chest types, or loud, brash tomboys that love beating guys up, because apparently that a joke that never gets old in anime land.
There is very little anime I like, but don't get me wrong- the anime I like, I usually love. My favourite film of all time is an anime and I'm never ashamed to say it, either. If the spectrum of anime could just get out of it's own asses just long enough to have a look at the diversity in the rest of the world's animation and realise how pigeonholed most of anime is, then maybe we'd start seeing all the tired old anime tricks start to disappear, or only appear where it's actually well handled.
You know, instead of the same old 'girl has just been called pretty-need to show a reaction-the anime text book tells us to make her look down, get red scribbles on her face, grab her own chest for reassurance of whatever, and say something very softly that equates to her not being worthy or some shit'. Oh, and there's a follow up entry here about then showing the guy, realising he's embarrassed her, sweat a massive single drop on the side of his head and then flail his arms around while trying to apologise for opening his mouth in the first place.
It's enough to make you want to puke.
