Poll: Prostitution

[Ignignoct]

Also, I just want to say that moral value is useless and I wouldn't take it into account on issues like this. Morals are just what people think are "right" or "wrong" and thus is biased.

Looks like your FACE is biased...

... with weeeeeeeeeeeed.

 

[Sevre]

Being a pimp, should be.

You lost me.

 

[Ignignoct]

That sounds more like a Libertarian argument than a Liberal one. All the Liberals I talk to tell me "No, that's degrading to a woman".

Cool, so I guess I'm a Libertarian then =p.

I feel like a Pokemon that just evolved from a basic democrat.

 

[RavingPenguin]

I like this argument.
http://www.videosift.com/video/George-Carlin-on-prostitution

 

[cicaba]

Nothing morally wrong with it in my utilitarianistic eyes.

Won't legalising it make the pimping situation worse? (Easier to do, less legal issues)
Am I missing something?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

I think George Carlin said this but I'm not sure...
"Why is it illegal to sell something hookers can give away?"

He also said: "If fucking is legal and selling is legal, then why isn't selling fucking legal?" or something along those lines.

Good times.

 

[Cliff_m85]

That sounds more like a Libertarian argument than a Liberal one. All the Liberals I talk to tell me "No, that's degrading to a woman".

Cool, so I guess I'm a Libertarian then =p.

I feel like a Pokemon that just evolved from a basic democrat.

I've been there. I was a near socialist democrat in high school, then an average democrat when I entered college, now I'm a Libertarian. I think I found my party.

 

[TwentyEight]

The best argument in favor of legal prostitution is to visit the three or so counties in Nevada where it already is. No violence, no STDs (in the entire history of the industry; they have regular check-ups), and no drugs. Like so many prohibited things, it's only dangerous because it's illegal.

Conservatives: "BAH! Good luck getting the government to properly regulate ANYTHING! We'd simply be legalizing sin and failing to control it. I'd much rather leave it to the scoundrels and let them rot in their wickedness."

Legalizing sin, eh? Like the usury that used to warrant a fast track to hell that is now practiced in every bank in the world? Bah. Sin is what humans are. There's a time and a place. I think Cap'n Mal said it best when he said, "Hell, I'm a fan of all seven."

 

[Agayek]

Cool, so I guess I'm a Libertarian then =p.

I feel like a Pokemon that just evolved from a basic democrat.

Welcome to the club. We have meetings every Tuesday at precisely 3:67 AM that last for 8 minutes, 12 seconds. Show up sometime, there's free pizza.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Nothing morally wrong with it in my utilitarianistic eyes.

Won't legalising it make the pimping situation worse? (Easier to do, less legal issues)
Am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing 'regulation'.

 

[Maze1125]

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.

Why? They have a service they want to sell, why make it illegal when no one involved is unwilling?

Because the significant majority of woman who are prostitutes, even of their own choice, don't want to be and only do it because they feel they aren't worthy of doing anything else.

Pretty much any time a man visits a prostitute he is exploiting a psychologically vulnerable person. There are of course exceptions, but not enough to validate legalising it.

 

[Ignignoct]

Nothing morally wrong with it in my utilitarianistic eyes.

Won't legalising it make the pimping situation worse? (Easier to do, less legal issues)
Am I missing something?

State-sanctioned "houses" for prostitution where women operate of their own volition.

No pimps.

Well...

...

I guess that means the State is the pimp, but we're really nice pimps.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

What kind of debate did you have in school? Was it about whether or not it should be legalized in the way it is in the Netherlands and Belgium? Or was it like many above me have stated, to acknowledge the prostitutes as victims and the people who buy/manage as the criminals?

The first one.

 

[bindox]

Legalize it, let them buy a business license like every other business, and pay taxes. Then they would have all the physical protection (police) of any other business, which they should have anyway as human beings. They could get health insurance and set up store fronts. And they can be regulated by the HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

 

[Agayek]

Because the significant majority of woman who are prostitutes, even of their own choice, don't want to be and only do it because they feel they aren't worthy of doing anything else.

Pretty much any time a man visits a prostitute he is exploiting a psychologically vulnerable person. There are of course exceptions, but not enough to validate legalising it.

You contradict yourself. If the woman is a prostitute of their own choice, they want to be one, one comes from the definition of the other. It doesn't matter if they think they're not worthy of doing something else. They chose to be there, and they want to sell sex. Who the hell are you to deny them that?

And on a quasi-related note, how the hell do you know this? Do you have regular interaction with prostitutes, or anyone else directly involved in that side of the business?

 

[cicaba]

Let's say, in this case, she isn't a prostitute but she dresses like one. It would offend her greatly if someone stopped their car, waved money at her, and asked her to get in. I bet she'd sue or something.

People should go out of their way to not offend other people, regardless of how easily offended they are? Isn't it somewhat to do with the person taking offence? This sounds too much like political correctness logic to me.

 

[Cliff_m85]

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.

Why? They have a service they want to sell, why make it illegal when no one involved is unwilling?

Because the significant majority of woman who are prostitutes, even of their own choice, don't want to be and only do it because they feel they aren't worthy of doing anything else.

Pretty much any time a man visits a prostitute he is exploiting a psychologically vulnerable person. There are of course exceptions, but not enough to validate legalising it.

This is called 'stereotyping' boys and girls.

As a friend of a famous prostitute/porn star who went to college and majored in marine biology, I can say this is bunk.

 

[shadowstriker86]

Prostitution is illegal because like pot, it cant be taxed

 

[WilliamWhite1]

The real question here is whether or not it would become some insane outbreak like in the twentieth century prohibition era. Think about it; we've had illegal prostitution here for a while, and it's somehow still occurring everywhere. Why? Because where there's a will, there's a way. When they banned alcohol, more people got drunk and smuggled alcohol in. As soon as they lifted the ban, everybody chilled.

Will that happen again? Possibly. But how can we be sure?

 

[cicaba]

Anyone with the slightest bit of sense will tell you that's wrong. Morals are universal standards everyone should be held to, regardless of situation, religion, or upbringing. The stupids of the universe pervert them into supporting their cause, which is why there's so many "morals" that disagree with each other.

You think morals are universal? How?

Was this a joke? It didn't sound like it.