Poll: Prostitution

[Ajna]

Most prostitutes are forced into it by circumstance or some bastard.
Punishing people who are already at the lowest point of their life seems rather pointless.

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.

The legal definition of pimp is anyone who uses the income of a prostitute. This includes more people than you would think. The child of a prostitute is a pimp (legally) if the food they eat was bought using funds from prostitution. If a man's wife is a prostitute, then if they file for taxes together, it is pimping.

I say legalize it, and wrote a 4 page essay on it a year or so ago.

And in response to the many questions I will get: Yes, I would be okay with my daughter being a prostitute, though I would not be happy with it for two reasons, unrelated to the job:

1)It is a low pay job. Hourly, you're making a killing, but considering you don't work a standard 9-to-5 job as a prostitute, you don't really make that much.
AND
2)Considering I'm going into teaching, I would expect any child of mine to go into a job that requires knowledge. Prostitution is a low-qualification job.

Hookers make bank.

Are you're saying your daughter isn't pretty enough to be a prostitute? How cruel.

Your legal definition is jack-sh*t here when we're talking common sense, which blows away your absurd, stringy straw man argument. The old, flawed definition means nothing when we're debating what the law SHOULD BE.

I hope you get swine flu.

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Go with Christ.

Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.

 

[GothmogII]

Its morally wrong. And it is because of greed for money and Sex that this exists. It combines both into one decadent package. Its basically stamping your one-way ticket straight to hell. Sorry to sound preachy but I do not believe that any woman should be forced to sell her body on the streets.

No-one was suggesting anyone should be -forced-, just that, if legalised it could be better regulated and go a long way to turn it from unpalatable yet often necessary job, into something that is safe for both worker and client.

Second...I'm unsure how that morally wrong logic works exactly, is it because it's sex that when organised it becomes bad?

I mean, can't you take anything like that turn it on it's head and make it 'morally wrong'?
I play Magic the Gathering, a collectable card game, nothing wrong with that right? But, take that and create large gambling dens based around it, add in some extortion and violence and boom! It's the Devil's game!

Hence my feelings on the matter of prostitution...just, seems like a needless demonisation of sexual activity. The again, I'm a strong believer that once we'll eventually end up in a post scarcity hedonistic society, and that will be the best for all humankind.

 

[Ignignoct]

Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.

They make as much as they want, almost like freelance strippers. This depends on so many x-factors as we all know, but you can't say it's a low-paying job without being disingenuous. Sure, the hookers that only work weekends may not make so much more than a 5-day 9-to-5 worker monthly, but the hooker that works 8 hours a day/night like the 9-to-5'er more by SEVERAL METAPHORICAL MILES!

I agree with you fully on the topic of knowledge.

And I know about the "Go with Christ" line. That's the joke: it doesn't make up for it in the least, but in reality there's nothing to make up for because my text isn't going to cause you harm.

Or... Maybe you think it does? You're not superstitious, are you?

 

[Ajna]

Most prostitutes are forced into it by circumstance or some bastard.
Punishing people who are already at the lowest point of their life seems rather pointless.

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.

The legal definition of pimp is anyone who uses the income of a prostitute. This includes more people than you would think. The child of a prostitute is a pimp (legally) if the food they eat was bought using funds from prostitution. If a man's wife is a prostitute, then if they file for taxes together, it is pimping.

I say legalize it, and wrote a 4 page essay on it a year or so ago.

And in response to the many questions I will get: Yes, I would be okay with my daughter being a prostitute, though I would not be happy with it for two reasons, unrelated to the job:

1)It is a low pay job. Hourly, you're making a killing, but considering you don't work a standard 9-to-5 job as a prostitute, you don't really make that much.
AND
2)Considering I'm going into teaching, I would expect any child of mine to go into a job that requires knowledge. Prostitution is a low-qualification job.

Hookers make bank.

Are you're saying your daughter isn't pretty enough to be a prostitute? How cruel.

Your legal definition is jack-sh*t here when we're talking common sense, which blows away your absurd, stringy straw man argument. The old, flawed definition means nothing when we're debating what the law SHOULD BE.

I hope you get swine flu.

...

Go with Christ.

Again: Hourly, they make good money, however, on a day-to-day basis, they don't make much more than anyone else in a low-skill job.

I intend to teach. I like knowledge. I want a son/daughter who appreciates knowledge as well. Being a prostitute does not require much knowledge at all.

Also, saying "Go with christ" doesn't change the fact that you wished physical harm upon me, which is tantamount to a threat of violence.

They make as much as they want, almost like freelance strippers. This depends on so many x-factors as we all know, but you can't say it's a low-paying job without being disingenuous.

I agree with you fully on the topic of knowledge.

And I know about the "Go with Christ" line. That's the joke: it doesn't make up for it in the least, but in reality there's nothing to make up for because my text isn't going to infect you with a deadly virus.

Or... Maybe it does? You're not superstitious, are you?

I'll let you know when I catch swine flu.

 

[Ignignoct]

I'll let you know when I catch swine flu.

Send me your toothbrush after-the-fact. I want to verify.

 

[Altorin]

So no, being a prostitute shouldn't be illegal.
On the other hand, visiting a prostitute, or being a pimp, should be.

Why? They have a service they want to sell, why make it illegal when no one involved is unwilling?

Because the significant majority of woman who are prostitutes, even of their own choice, don't want to be and only do it because they feel they aren't worthy of doing anything else.

Pretty much any time a man visits a prostitute he is exploiting a psychologically vulnerable person. There are of course exceptions, but not enough to validate legalising it.

yeah, but not legalizing it, that woman is still there, still hooking.

Only if the john beats her half to death, she can't go to the cops. If her pimp beats her for trying to take enough of her earned money to climb out of the hole she's in, she can't go to the cops. If she gets a disease (which she will), she will be worse then worthless in her own eyes.

Legalization and regulation fixes all of those problems. Girls who are in legal brothels, where they have the protection of the law and they control the rules of the encounter under the protection of the law, they tend to enjoy their work. They make more money, have a better quality of life, and are safer.

 

[zauxz]

Prostitution could be legalised with monthly health checks.

 

[Sion_Barzahd]

104 votes to yes in legalising it. Thats astounding

If done in a controlled place such as a brothel, where the women are protected and made to take regular STD tests so that they're kept clean, i don't see the issue.

 

[Altorin]

104 votes to yes in legalising it. Thats astounding

If done in a controlled place such as a brothel, where the women are protected and made to take regular STD tests so that they're kept clean, i don't see the issue.

Yeah, you should need to work at a licensed establishment, so no street walking, but the legal option should be there.

 

[Lord George]

Its just another commodity that people are willing to pay for, and all the negatives of prostitution are only their because its illegal in the first place. Making it illegal has always done more harm then good for the women involved anyway.

 

[Dorian]

All right! Let's legalize paid sex! I cannot see, in any way, the possibility of pregnancies and STDs having a negative impact on this at all. There won't be giant outbreaks of HIV, syphilis, etc. or populations sky-rocketing. At. ALL

Hell no. It would be the worst thing possible for any government to do.

 

[ultimatechance]

I dont see any reason as to why it should be illegal, other than pimping, and TEH INNOCENTS OF HOUR CHILDRENS.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Actually, I don't get the whole "should we legalize [marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, whores, etc,] thing.
Who gives a fuck if it's against the law? How many people do you honestly think that stops? It sure doesn't make politicians hesitate before jumping in the car with a girl who's fucked more people than most of you have ever even known.

Yes, but by legalizing prostitution you would be getting rid of the criminal element (pimps, sex slaves, etc) and the government would also get something in return (i.e. taxes).
By having all of the prostitutes work in a safe enviroment (brothel, as opposed to a dirty alleyway) with regular health checks, you would also prevent the spread of STDs.
Also, the prostitutes would be safe from abusive pimps or rapist customers.

So yeah, it kinda does make a big difference.

 

[Panzer_God]

Do you think that legalising prostitution would be a helpful way of getting rid of the criminal element? If not, why?

Also, what do you morally think of the whole prostitution concept?

Forced prostitution should be illegal but if women wan't to sell their bodies to make ends meet I don't think we should punish them for it. We should punish the people that make them. Morally I don't agree with prostitution but I can see the business sense in it.

 

[Panzer_God]

I dont see any reason as to why it should be illegal, other than pimping, and TEH INNOCENTS OF HOUR CHILDRENS.

LEARN TO SPELL!!!!!

 

[AkJay]

Prostitution is the OLDEST profession in the world, dating back thousands of years, so why not make it legal? it's not going to stop anytime soon.

 

[Panzer_God]

Think about it this way,when we made booze illegal bootleggers and the mafia grew to epic proportions. Illegal drugs and prostitution are the backbone of organized crime. If we legals drugs and whores then organized crime wouldn't be able to make as much money and we'd all be safer.

 

[Agayek]

All right! Let's legalize paid sex! I cannot see, in any way, the possibility of pregnancies and STDs having a negative impact on this at all. There won't be giant outbreaks of HIV, syphilis, etc. or populations sky-rocketing. At. ALL

Hell no. It would be the worst thing possible for any government to do.

You do realize that the people who want a hooker are going to get one, regardless of whether or not it's legal? The spread of STDs or number of pregnancies won't rise in the least abnormally.

Legalizing it will do nothing more than give aforementioned hookers protection under the law.

 

[Ignignoct]

Actually, I don't get the whole "should we legalize [marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, whores, etc,] thing.
Who gives a fuck if it's against the law? How many people do you honestly think that stops? It sure doesn't make politicians hesitate before jumping in the car with a girl who's fucked more people than most of you have ever even known.

I think it's because people just want to be able to have a decent job and not be fired if weed pops up on their random piss-test. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcomedy.videosift.com%2Fvideo%2FVince-Shlomi-with-Rap-Chop-ShamWow-Dude-Raps-the-Slap&feature=player_embedded]

 

[Ignignoct]

All right! Let's legalize paid sex! I cannot see, in any way, the possibility of pregnancies and STDs having a negative impact on this at all. There won't be giant outbreaks of HIV, syphilis, etc. or populations sky-rocketing. At. ALL

Hell no. It would be the worst thing possible for any government to do.

It's funny, because your initial sarcasm is completely correct.

I also like the "worst thing possible" bit.

Jesus, lighten up and do some research. Go talk to a friendly hooker and get her side of the story.