Poll: Protesting and You?!
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I don't know if it's the same in other countries, but no, protesting is an unalienable right. Nobody has the power to deny you that. As a human being(or U.S citizen if the rules are different everywhere else), you are allowed to speak out against something that you see as unjust so long as it's nonviolent and, if you want it to get anywhere, has support of some kind.Stranger of Sorts said:
I like protesters. It takes the attention of the cops, politicians, and general public off what may actually improve their lives: Stopping me from taking over the world!
I didn't put anything I just put in my $30 dollars and called it good. What ended up on the billboard was factual information that heavy drinking and falling down the stairs has a high likelihood of causing a miscarriage and both of those actions are unaffected by abortion laws.SultanP said:
Like I said, it was very offensive, but it completely stopped people from protesting there.
Exactly. But in my city if there's more than 20 people you can make an appeal to loitering laws and the protest has to disband enough people to get below 20. It's a law they put in to prevent people from completely blocking off access to buildings or holding up traffic to badly.Iconsting said:
protests are good for Sh*t! there'll be always heavy armored cops if it goes wild. depending on the country of course, in Iran they either snipe you or beat you with their motorcycles...
in some countries in Africa they shoot on sight, to end the protests. etc etc.
in some countries in Africa they shoot on sight, to end the protests. etc etc.
Protests aren't meant to change people's minds, they're meant to show that people's minds are already made up and demand changes accordingly.
Even though you can only have 20 people in a single place there's no law about how many groups of 20 people you can have as long as they're spread out. So I guarantee that there was at least three other groups of 20 in other strategic areas that were part of the same protest. So in a weird way the law benefits both the city and the protesters, people can still get in and out of buildings and the protesters are legally required to maximize their area of effect. So instead of passing one large group of protesters in front of one building you end up passing a small group all over the place.Iconsting said:
If I was gonna protest it would be peaceful and either a massive protest or a protest close to the intended recipient of the message. Examples: The Iraq War 100,000 people protests or Protesting outside an easily reachable foreign embassy or government office.
I never understood rioting done by anarchists. It's a protest, not a war. If you want insurgency and cop-fighting, fine, but be honest about it and quit bitching about your whatever amendment rights when those rights are secured and recognized by the government. If you're arguing it's a natural right, DON'T REFER TO A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT. If I ever use violence, it will only be after protesting is impossible or I've given up on it.
And quit disrupting other people's protest. You're the reason ignorant morons are like "lol liberals protest war but violence erupts at anti-war rally, stupid libsss".
Generally speaking though, protests don't change anything until the cops/government hits first. When you protest normally, noone cares and noone is effected, when you riot, everyone hates you. It's also completely random. Your 200,000 protest against a war can be ignored by most networks while Fox calls you "traitors" and refers to everyone there as communists because 200 CPUSA members showed up. If you throw a Tea Party with 75,000 or so at DC because a n**er is president, you get coverage from all the networks and Fox inflates your numbers.
I never understood rioting done by anarchists. It's a protest, not a war. If you want insurgency and cop-fighting, fine, but be honest about it and quit bitching about your whatever amendment rights when those rights are secured and recognized by the government. If you're arguing it's a natural right, DON'T REFER TO A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT. If I ever use violence, it will only be after protesting is impossible or I've given up on it.
And quit disrupting other people's protest. You're the reason ignorant morons are like "lol liberals protest war but violence erupts at anti-war rally, stupid libsss".
Generally speaking though, protests don't change anything until the cops/government hits first. When you protest normally, noone cares and noone is effected, when you riot, everyone hates you. It's also completely random. Your 200,000 protest against a war can be ignored by most networks while Fox calls you "traitors" and refers to everyone there as communists because 200 CPUSA members showed up. If you throw a Tea Party with 75,000 or so at DC because a n**er is president, you get coverage from all the networks and Fox inflates your numbers.
I don't think this really makes sense. My floors method of disrupting the protest was completely non-violent and legal. We didn't pick a fight we just made our apartment an unattractive location for their goal. Plus I'm an Independent and I would have been annoyed by it no matter what the party of the protest was and our apartment is mixed politically and everyone gave money so it was mostly about the noise I guess. And I didn't really do anything; I didn't even come up with the idea to break it up I just donated to it when someone knocked on my door.ReincarnatedFTP said:
Unrelated: Cool Avatar. Best movie I've seen in five years.
Thanks for the Avatar compliment.MattZero said:
I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to extremist protesters who take advantage of larger groups of protests to blend in and start smashing windows and throwing molotovs.
I don't think I would ever protest something unless it absolutely affects me directly. I've never been bothered by protesters, but may be because I live in a town, and not a city.
I would be very reluctant to join a protest because that would mean that I am the foot soldier for a group. People who are in mobs or protests oftentimes think that they are in control of their predicament, but there is always someone higher up who is pulling the strings, using you as a puppet to further their goals. It doesn't really matter to them if you are harmed or arrested, they weren't there, so it doesn't affect them.
I would be very reluctant to join a protest because that would mean that I am the foot soldier for a group. People who are in mobs or protests oftentimes think that they are in control of their predicament, but there is always someone higher up who is pulling the strings, using you as a puppet to further their goals. It doesn't really matter to them if you are harmed or arrested, they weren't there, so it doesn't affect them.