Actually, the YLOD is generic trouble indicator light that can signify any number of different problems. Some of them are fixable, some of them are fatal. A lot more than 0.01% of them get this light, but the fatal errors due to this light, last I checked, were floating around 5%.danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
Couldn't have said it better myself, but one other thing, I love Game Informer, but I think trying to pass that survey as a proper random sampling was incredibly irresponsible, that survey was so biased and poorly conducted that you can't rely on it at all (not to say that 360 rates are higher or lower than what they said, I have no idea, I am just saying that the survey is not reliable)TPiddy said:Actually, the YLOD is generic trouble indicator light that can signify any number of different problems. Some of them are fixable, some of them are fatal. A lot more than 0.01% of them get this light, but the fatal errors due to this light, last I checked, were floating around 5%.danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
I agree with you about the company policies though. For example....
Game Informer puts out this ridiculous survey that says the failure rate is at 54% on a survey group of 5000 people that didn't even have to own a 360 to participate. The PS3 fanboys go nuts over this and when an MS representative was reached for comment he gave a blanket "we strive to provide quality entertainment" answer rather than acknowledge the ridiculously inaccurate survey.
BBC's Watchdog program put out a TV spot about the YLOD and some inflated figures relating to how often the British PS3's crash, using a sampling of like, 16 of them, and Sony goes all batshit and writes them a letter demanding an apology. Can't take the high road and ignore obvious bullshit, they gotta get in there and fight to defend their 'reputation'.
That's the difference between the companies I think. Microsoft's RROD fell outside of standard failure rates for electronics and as such increased the warranty to 3 years and paid for everything.
Sony's product falls within the line of acceptable failure rates for electronics and as such has kept their warranty at 1 year, and offered to fix any systems out of warranty for $128 each.
I found in one of the final levels in Reign of Fire for Gamecube, they threw in too many baddies, they clog up your screen straight away and make it freeze. Happened with 3 different Gamecubes. It wasn't a very popular game though so not many people noticed or cared.GamingAwesome1 said:Unlucky coincidence. I thought this was gonna be some troll thread when I saw the title.
I don't there have ever been cases of games trashing the console. Have there? Some one tell me if I'm wrong.
Does ANYONE care about sources anywhere? For all I know you just pulled those numbers literally out of your A-- (not to say they aren't right, but where the hell did they come from)MultiPurposeBlue said:danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
the PS3 slim has been a very stable console and think about the numbers as well, 27 million PS3's have been sold world wide as of October 30th 2009, so it is .01% of 27 million. a good standing compared to Xbox
keep in mind I am talking about the population of all errors, not just hardware the numbers for hardware are
Xbox- 54.2
PS3-10.2
Wii-6.8
but these are from August so these don't count the PS3 slim and Microsoft's attempts to fix the problems with the RRoD in September and October.
Where the hell did he start bashing the console?Dark Templar said:You had one problem and started a thread bashing the console. If you wanted advice you should have politely asked for it. But again, you didn't.Ironic said:You would start linking the two together if you already had to have the PS3 repaired once for the 800-something (had to send it off) on the first time you load up World at War, or would you just ignore that without checking the link. Try offering advice instead of derisive comments, or go to 4chan.Dark Templar said:So, you alone have an issue with your console so you decide to blame the game?
You fail, not the PS3.
Oh ho, I see what you did there.US Crash Fire said:Don't hate the playastation, hate the game.
danpascooch said:Does ANYONE care about sources anywhere? For all I know you just pulled those numbers literally out of your A-- (not to say they aren't right, but where the hell did they come from)MultiPurposeBlue said:http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/08/18/xbox-360-failure-rate-over-50-percent-ps3-wii-more-reliable/danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
used Wiki for sales figure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6
the PS3 slim has been a very stable console and think about the numbers as well, 27 million PS3's have been sold world wide as of October 30th 2009, so it is .01% of 27 million. a good standing compared to Xbox
keep in mind I am talking about the population of all errors, not just hardware the numbers for hardware are
Xbox- 54.2
PS3-10.2
Wii-6.8
but these are from August so these don't count the PS3 slim and Microsoft's attempts to fix the problems with the RRoD in September and October.
if they came from that damn Game Informer survey, I swear to god...
PS: The PS3 slim doesn't have backwards capability, as far as I am concerned, that is a deal breaker
Excuse me, but I don't see him whining about anything, do you? I don't think he could have said it any nicer.Kalezian said:I see no link you speak of, thus you indeed fail.Ironic said:You would start linking the two together if you already had to have the PS3 repaired once for the 800-something (had to send it off) on the first time you load up World at War, or would you just ignore that without checking the link. Try offering advice instead of derisive comments, or go to 4chan.Dark Templar said:So, you alone have an issue with your console so you decide to blame the game?
You fail, not the PS3.
Ill already assume that you have checked with another disk if your console still works, right? if so, and your still getting the YLoD then send it off to get fixed, buy a new Ps3, or simply get another console and quit whining about it.
Oh yeah, I totally agree that the survey was completely unreliable and biased. It pisses me off to no end when Sony fanboys on here quote it as fact. The Watchdog sampling was even worse! It found 5 problems on 16 PS3's. Maybe I should just go around quoting THAT failure rate to piss off the Sony Fanboysdanpascooch said:Couldn't have said it better myself, but one other thing, I love Game Informer, but I think trying to pass that survey as a proper random sampling was incredibly irresponsible, that survey was so biased and poorly conducted that you can't rely on it at all (not to say that 360 rates are higher or lower than what they said, I have no idea, I am just saying that the survey is not reliable)
Yeah, the general consensus is that Wii is the lowest, Sony is second lowest and 360 is the worst by a considerable margin. If I were to give a solid estimate I'd say Wii was about 4%, PS3 was about 6% and 360 was in the 23-24% range, as most of it's new models haven't had any problems and are bringing the overall number down significantly.MultiPurposeBlue said:well it looks like everyone has different numbers so lets just agree that ps3 and Wii have the lowest and 360 has highest.
if someone gets some confirmed and updated numbers on failure rates send them to me
1.) The PS3 failure rate was actually 10.6% according to your link (I know I'm splitting hairs, but I thought I'd mention it anywayMultiPurposeBlue said:danpascooch said:Does ANYONE care about sources anywhere? For all I know you just pulled those numbers literally out of your A-- (not to say they aren't right, but where the hell did they come from)MultiPurposeBlue said:http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/08/18/xbox-360-failure-rate-over-50-percent-ps3-wii-more-reliable/danpascooch said:0.01% My ass, there is NO WAY they are that stable, who told you that? I bet if was Sony. One in ten thousand?MultiPurposeBlue said:Hey they say .01% of all PS3's will YLoD i got one of them. what type of PS3 is yours because the YLoD is usually only found on the Gen 1 Ps3 and some on Gen 2
That's like saying: "Oh you're console broke? Well, let us take this opportunity to tell you how awesome we are, only .01% break!"
Thats Sony's style, I remember the GameInformer article, when asked why PS3 sales are low, the VP (I think VP) answered: "The problem is with society in general...."
They can never admit fault, at least Microsoft does admit the RRoD is a problem (even if it is a ludicrously large one) There is something to be said for that
used Wiki for sales figure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_figures_6
the PS3 slim has been a very stable console and think about the numbers as well, 27 million PS3's have been sold world wide as of October 30th 2009, so it is .01% of 27 million. a good standing compared to Xbox
keep in mind I am talking about the population of all errors, not just hardware the numbers for hardware are
Xbox- 54.2
PS3-10.2
Wii-6.8
but these are from August so these don't count the PS3 slim and Microsoft's attempts to fix the problems with the RRoD in September and October.
if they came from that damn Game Informer survey, I swear to god...
PS: The PS3 slim doesn't have backwards capability, as far as I am concerned, that is a deal breaker